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dejavu2003 2007-7-25 21:48

[quote]原帖由 [i]b4321[/i] 於 2007-7-24 12:23 PM 發表
Only the begining of Group B.

Group B can avoid the dillution problem of 1 man 1 lot, which affect
the applicants in Group A only.

[/quote]

One cannot accurately predict if group A or Group is more advantageous in a particular IPO.  Statistically, when I picked group A, group B got more allocation even in terms of percentage and when I picked group B, in one rare occasion, top of group A got a higher allocation in terms of # of shares than me.  But statistically, group A gets a better allocation % than group B but in absolute terms, group B gets higher allocation.  So if you have unlimited funding, always go to group B.

I have given up in guessing.  I use whatever money I have, divided it over the number of IPOs at any one time, and divided into two accounts that I have.  If it ends up in Group A or Group B, so be it.

And it works much better for me.

dejavu2003 2007-7-25 21:50

[quote]原帖由 [i]Sax[/i] 於 2007-7-25 03:51 PM 發表
今日又逆市上升,接近 13 蚊,真好:moon:!!! [/quote]

Good, but not good enough.  I put an offer @ $12.98 and it almost got there.

lafite2004 2007-7-25 21:51

[quote]原帖由 [i]starstar2000[/i] 於 2007-7-25 08:28 發表

How to get the chance in Group B ?? [/quote]

Sorry, Do you mean how to apply group B.

Or, you mean something else.

b4321 2007-7-26 00:34

FYI. Let's say there is 10 billion net shares for public offer after deducting all the instutional subscription.

The 10 billion shares should be divided by 2, and 5 billion shares to Group A and 5 billion shares to group B if there is no any exemption.

Group B is for the investors subscribing over HK$5M.

For all the small investors or 1 man 1 lot, they will affect only the 5M shares in Group A. If there are too many small investors in Group A, the shares in Group B still WON'T be transferred into Group A. It means each investor in Group A will acquire less shares or diluted. That's the mean why I said the 1 man 1 lot dilution will affect only the people in Group A but not Group B. Group B will still share the 5 billion shares no matter what.

The number of richer investors in Group B should be far less than Group A, but the amt of share subscription per investor in Group B is much bigger than Group A. We can't predict whether Group B's investors will get more shares in percentage than Group A. But however, the investors in Group B won't be diluted by the 1 man 1 lot policy.

It all depand on how hungry I am for the particular stock if I decide put more money in Group B. It's always the cheapest way to buy the IPO shares if it is a very good stock like 1800. U may get more shares in percentage in Group A. But in absolute term, the number of shares got per head is far less than Group B.

[quote]原帖由 [i]lafite2004[/i] 於 2007-7-25 17:19 發表


I may be wrong , but I do'nt think ...applying B group can avoid the dillution of 1 man 1 lot.
As the chance for group B is only 1.33 % while for group A  the worst one is 1,40 %.

Hence  th ... [/quote]

[[i] 本帖最後由 b4321 於 2007-7-26 00:52 編輯 [/i]]

lafite2004 2007-7-26 10:06

[quote]原帖由 [i]b4321[/i] 於 2007-7-25 16:34 發表
FYI. Let's say there is 10 billion net shares for public offer after deducting all the instutional subscription.

The 10 billion shares should be divided by 2, and 5 billion shares to Group A and ... [/quote]

Thanks, very detail.     :reading:     :bow:   :reading:        :wave:

lafite2004 2007-7-26 10:10

[quote]原帖由 [i]lafite2004[/i] 於 2007-7-23 07:36 發表
Step by step , going up , :jump:  Step by step , going up,   :jump:  , Step by step , going up , :jump:  Step by step , going up   :jump:    :jump:    :jump: [/quote]

This morning it opens at 13.10       :jump:   :jump:    :jump:

starstar2000 2007-7-26 14:52

巳在$13.40放走一半貨,減低風險~

Sax 2007-7-26 15:36

[quote]原帖由 [i]starstar2000[/i] 於 2007-7-26 14:52 發表
巳在$13.40放走一半貨,減低風險~ [/quote]


我 $12.80 仲追入,幾有信心架   :rose:

starstar2000 2007-7-26 16:39

[quote]原帖由 [i]Sax[/i] 於 2007-7-26 15:36 發表



我 $12.80 仲追入,幾有信心架   :rose: [/quote]


真利害呀你~師兄:slap:

Sax 2007-7-27 06:20

[quote]原帖由 [i]starstar2000[/i] 於 2007-7-26 16:39 發表
真利害呀你~師兄:slap: [/quote]

dow jones 唔見 311,都係你利害 d    :oh::oh:

Sax 2007-7-27 09:57

[quote]原帖由 [i]Sax[/i] 於 2007-7-26 15:36 發表



我 $12.80 仲追入,幾有信心架   :rose: [/quote]



開市頂得住 12.80     :L

Air Supply 2007-7-27 11:57

[quote]原帖由 [i]Sax[/i] 於 2007-7-27 09:57 發表




開市頂得住 12.80     :L [/quote]

:verygood: 依家倒升添啦~ :beer: :beer:

小小力 2007-7-27 12:00

我今日$13.00追入左!! .....

cyberken 2007-7-27 12:11

[quote]原帖由 [i]小小力[/i] 於 2007-7-27 12:00 發表
我今日$13.00追入左!! ..... [/quote]

長揸應該ok, 我IPO入嘅貨都未有打算沽 :lol:lol:lol

peninsula 2007-7-27 12:12

[quote]原帖由 [i]小小力[/i] 於 2007-7-27 12:00 發表
我今日$13.00追入左!! ..... [/quote]
Passed $13.50!:jaw::hamsup::P:)

leoxi 2007-7-28 01:11

[quote]原帖由 [i]Sax[/i] 於 2007-7-27 09:57 發表




開市頂得住 12.80     :L [/quote]

Don't worry, there were lots of buy orders placed around the $13 mark today.  The stock still have a lot of upside potential. :)

vodkaboy 2007-7-28 10:26

呢隻年內應可上到17.5~18... 如果有幾會下調到12.2左右可以小注買入...

peninsula 2007-7-28 13:00

[quote]原帖由 [i]vodkaboy[/i] 於 2007-7-28 10:26 發表
呢隻年內應可上到17.5~18... 如果有幾會下調到12.2左右可以小注買入... [/quote]
Can hit $18 within this year.:lol;P:givemefive::quiet::lookaround:

lafite2004 2007-7-30 10:07

[quote]原帖由 [i]lafite2004[/i] 於 2007-7-23 07:36 發表
Step by step , going up , :jump:  Step by step , going up,   :jump:  , Step by step , going up , :jump:  Step by step , going up   :jump:    :jump:    :jump: [/quote]

This morning it opens at 13.82/13.88.

Later ten minutes later I saw  [i][b]14.14/14.16.[/b][/i].    :jump:  :jump:

Sax 2007-7-30 11:50

[quote]原帖由 [i]peninsula[/i] 於 2007-7-28 13:00 發表

Can hit $18 within this year.:lol;P:givemefive::quiet::lookaround: [/quote]


只上到 18 蚊 我會好失望

我睇 $30   :boxing:

Sax 2007-7-30 11:51

[quote]原帖由 [i]leoxi[/i] 於 2007-7-28 01:11 發表


Don't worry, there were lots of buy orders placed around the $13 mark today.  The stock still have a lot of upside potential. :) [/quote]


多謝鼓勵,而家安心 d

Sax 2007-7-30 11:52

[quote]原帖由 [i]lafite2004[/i] 於 2007-7-30 10:07 發表


This morning it opens at 13.82/13.88.

Later ten minutes later I saw  14.14/14.16..    :jump:  :jump: [/quote]



真係強   :verygood:

peninsula 2007-7-30 12:08

[quote]原帖由 [i]Sax[/i] 於 2007-7-30 11:52 發表
真係強   :verygood: [/quote]
Yes, really good!:lol;P:P:givemefive:

Air Supply 2007-7-30 12:23

[quote]原帖由 [i]Sax[/i] 於 2007-7-30 11:52 發表

真係強   :verygood: [/quote]

都話你可以攞番晒兼有凸o架啦~ ;P :beer:

cyberken 2007-7-30 16:11

[quote]原帖由 [i]Sax[/i] 於 2007-7-30 11:51 發表



多謝鼓勵,而家安心 d [/quote]


都係‘y ----- 長揸啦

lafite2004 2007-7-30 16:56

[quote]原帖由 [i]lafite2004[/i] 於 2007-7-23 07:36 發表
Step by step , going up , :jump:  Step by step , going up,   :jump:  , Step by step , going up , :jump:  Step by step , going up   :jump:    :jump:    :jump: [/quote]

The share closes at     [i][b]14.38/14.40[/b][/i].    :jump:   :jump:

peninsula 2007-7-31 12:11

[quote]原帖由 [i]cyberken[/i] 於 2007-7-30 16:11 發表
都係镧句 ----- 長揸啦 [/quote]
Strong again!:o:lol:jaw:

jackpao 2007-7-31 12:28

曾經在$12放左ipo抽返來的:'(,後來在$13.5又入返,都係長隋nd,否則好易買唔返

Sax 2007-7-31 13:00

[quote]原帖由 [i]jackpao[/i] 於 2007-7-31 12:28 發表
曾經在$12放左ipo抽返來的:'(,後來在$13.5又入返,都係長隋nd,否則好易買唔返 [/quote]


咁都賺左 10%+

一齊坐享其成   :applause:

hhl 2007-8-16 09:38

復星今日停牌, 咩原因 ...

peninsula 2007-8-16 11:30

[quote]原帖由 [i]hhl[/i] 於 2007-8-16 09:38 發表
復星今日停牌, 咩原因 ... [/quote]
Don't expect any good news!:(;P:oh:

hhl 2007-8-16 11:39

why ......................................................... 可能收購呢 ...

peninsula 2007-8-16 12:12

[quote]原帖由 [i]hhl[/i] 於 2007-8-16 11:39 發表
why ......................................................... 可能收購呢 ... [/quote]
No news will help in current market conditions.:o:P:soldier::afraid:

小小力 2007-8-16 15:19

[quote]原帖由 [i]peninsula[/i] 於 2007-8-16 12:12 發表

No news will help in current market conditions.:o:P:soldier::afraid: [/quote]

Luckily...I sell it at the beginning of last week.....:L

遊王 2007-8-16 16:24

[quote]原帖由 [i]peninsula[/i] 於 2007-8-16 11:30 發表

Don't expect any good news!:(;P:oh: [/quote]


咁各位有冇料呀~~~~

peninsula 2007-8-16 16:34

[quote]原帖由 [i]遊王[/i] 於 2007-8-16 16:24 發表
咁各位有冇料呀~~~~ [/quote]
Hold CASH. That's all!:lookaround::soldier::help:

lafite2004 2007-8-17 17:56

[quote]原帖由 [i]hhl[/i] 於 2007-8-16 01:38 發表
復星今日停牌, 咩原因 ... [/quote]

To form a new [i]joint venture [/i]company with orther company .

kswong 2007-8-18 23:43

復星國際    公告及通告 - [須予披露的交易 / 復牌]
成立一間合營公司及恢復股份買賣

kelvinlcm 2007-8-19 03:55

希望星期一會升啦....

peninsula 2007-8-20 10:06

[quote]原帖由 [i]kelvinlcm[/i] 於 2007-8-19 03:55 發表
希望星期一會升啦.... [/quote]
Did not rise and now a good price to get in.:lookaround::quiet::oh::o

jimmy1001 2007-8-20 15:04

Buy some at $12.2 this afternoon. For long hold definitely!:L:L:L:quiet:

peninsula 2007-8-20 15:17

[quote]原帖由 [i]jimmy1001[/i] 於 2007-8-20 15:04 發表
Buy some at $12.2 this afternoon. For long hold definitely!:L:L:L:quiet: [/quote]
Good price - not sure why this one does not move up at all?:o:wondering::oh:

bigball_hunter2 2007-8-20 15:32

[quote]原帖由 [i]jimmy1001[/i] 於 2007-8-20 15:04 發表
Buy some at $12.2 this afternoon. For long hold definitely!:L:L:L:quiet: [/quote]

i take some at $12.1  :victory::victory::victory::victory::victory:

cooler36 2007-8-25 19:01

I bought it at 12.64, will not sell it reach 15 again!

peninsula 2007-8-27 08:48

[quote]原帖由 [i]cooler36[/i] 於 2007-8-25 19:01 發表
I bought it at 12.64, will not sell it reach 15 again! [/quote]
Can reach this year.:quiet::hamsup:

jimmy1001 2007-8-27 11:36

:lol sold at $13.12 this morning. Will buy back again if drops to $12.00;P

lafite2004 2007-9-3 10:19

[quote]原帖由 [i]jimmy1001[/i] 於 2007-8-27 03:36 發表
:lol  Will buy back again if drops to $12.00;P [/quote]


Look out   :loveeyes:

You  may have a chance to day     ;P  :)

peninsula 2007-9-3 10:25

[quote]原帖由 [i]lafite2004[/i] 於 2007-9-3 10:19 發表
Look out   :loveeyes:
You  may have a chance to day     ;P  :) [/quote]
I am in another 4 hands @$12.08.:quiet::o:reading:

jimmy1001 2007-9-3 11:07

[quote]原帖由 [i]peninsula[/i] 於 2007-9-3 02:25 發表

I am in another 4 hands @$12.08.:quiet::o:reading: [/quote]

I am still waiting for a price below $12.00 this week. :lol:lol:lol

jimmy1001 2007-9-3 11:09

[quote]原帖由 [i]peninsula[/i] 於 2007-9-3 02:25 發表

I am in another 4 hands @$12.08.:quiet::o:reading: [/quote]

I am still waiting for a price below $12.00 this week. :lol:lol:lol
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