查看完整版本: 單打, 即ban. Instead: concrete suggestions pls. (updated on Aug 16)

As usual......no response at all........:L

who is 羅賓 ? 睇戲睇到忽上腦呀 ?

[quote]原帖由 [i]anakin[/i] 於 2007-8-15 00:47 發表

我作為小版主，就有話直說，講下我既睇法。
你地係XOCATII既權威領袖，有野要做，有話直說就得；唔需要講話有多user支持你，更加唔需要突然整條新規定出黎去ban人，你咁做會有損權威。
你地覺得有人攻擊XOCAT，理應挺身而出，去�M個問題出黎，而唔係keep silent for a long time！等到你地唔忍得，就加條新例出黎ban晒D”單打”你地既會員，咁做只會有更多會員對你既做法側目，更加解�身屭麆暋D；悠悠眾口，你點ban得晒？至尊豪庭都發展到第九代啦。
對你地既管理手法”單單打打”係一件好正常既事；幫得你地手既版主/會員有野講，你地就愛理不理；D會員口痕叫你開個新區，你地又有效率冇考慮咁去回應(可以考究番”創業版”的成立)，攪到”創業版”變成免費廣告版；對分版小版主既任免，就更加係講彩數。淨係呢睇在一D幫得你地手既版主/會員眼中，又點會冇怨言？怨言積到咁上下，你地又愛理不理，咁就suggestion變”單打”。
更何況係呢班”單打”你地既會員，亦並唔係一開始就”單打”你地，佢地亦曾經卜心卜命去做小版主，幫你剷走D無聊垃圾帖，維持版面秩序，有部份仲要攪到連屋企人都比D野蠻會員問候；聽下睇下佢地有乜野講，比D正面既回應，佢地就係你地既好幫手，而家個個變晒頂心衫，你地又有冇諗過自已有份一手做成？
[color=Red]試諗下，炮艇工兵作為modeator，佢做既係為左平衡大版主們同會員們係”17歲私鐘打真軍”上既睇法，你連佢都ban埋，點服��?[/color]
建議：
[color=Red]大版主們一個星期抽三日，每日兩個鐘，主動D去睇下回應下”版主專區”、”意見箱”同埋”版主/新版加設區”，有野跟進就跟進，冇野跟進咪吹下水；要有PM先考慮應唔應，同做紙版警察有乜分別?無為而治係好，但係唔係成日都行得通。

PS：羅賓、dear friend講既唔一定�痡o晒；有時迷妖、小丑都有D意見聽得下！


我上面講既係版務意見，意見應該存在係意見箱，唔應該淨係靠PM交流。[/color]

同文將以PM形式，送呈大版主。 [/quote]完全同意, 尤其係講炮兄果段!
就算大版主覺得串佢係值得ban, 但我從未見過炮兄串過xocatII !

係xocatII自己一手造成小人當道的情況, 無啦啦大把人做左版主, 原來係靠什麼pm, 反而出面post話要做果d又要回應人又要拉票!

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[color=Red][size=5]Batman 唔係忍者龜，更加唔應該扮縮頭烏龜！

唔該唔好次次有 member 有意見就縮埋一二角扮睇唔到條 thread！證據就係 Batman 你有 login 過，期間並處理過版務。 一大堆 member 指證你無覆 PM. 。

有很多不愉快事件都伙因為 Batman 你一開始就扮縮頭烏龜，情況不可收拾的時候才出來求其咁 ban 幾個你睇唔順眼的 member。

有很多不愉快事件都伙因為 Batman 你的發言和處理手法使事件小事化大。

Batman 你應該自己檢討下。[/size][/color]

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瞞得過天下人, 瞞唔過自己....祝蝙蝠俠晚晚瞓得好 !

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You might not know how sad I'm killing a lot of my friends.  But some clever user has already understood why I did that.  :)   I don't mind to have lower hitrate or what.  But we don't want to have any more troubles and bad atmosphere and war like atsmophere...

The happy side on this mass killing is that I see your responeses become more concrete and someone know how to present their thinking using articles instead of some very short sentences shouting and shouting... I'm now trying to digest your opinions so as to improve our forum.

I can't have perfect information.  So, pls try to make it easy to understand and concrete.  Thanks.

If anyone want to resume your account, PM me to apologize or state your polite ideas.  Though I reserve the final right about it.

你有條仲咁去放番佢地，同迫佢地走冇乜分別。
不如咁，你多D主動同我地溝通，其他事一步步做會唔會好D？

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[quote]原帖由 [i]xocatII[/i] 於 2007-8-15 22:35 發表
You might not know how sad I'm killing a lot of my friends.  But some clever user has already understood why I did that.  :)   I don't mind to have lower hitrate or what.  But we don't want to have ... [/quote]


:handshake 請明示我邊句說話 or post 有單打成分而令閣下禁我言呢？:bow:

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大家幔慢黎，唔好急！
大家都需要D時間。

[quote]原帖由 [i]golden_baby[/i] 於 2007-8-15 22:52 發表

唔洗同佢:bow: ，下話:lol [/quote]
:lol 我好家教..呢d叫先禮後兵:boxing:

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stay calm every body.  Do you know why I ban many of the users involved in "that thread".  If you have involved in "that thread", you should know about it.  I'm not sure who make this thing big, but for sure , crazybb is the one... and others might follow, the things become big... and this wasted a lot of resources and time to deal with that, you also wasted the money of we tax payers... what do you think you're doing?  I know that I might have killed someone who are innocent.  I'm sorry.  But over 80% of those users involved in that thread keep on 單打 and stay on the side of crazybb.  If you insist that you're not on the side of crazybb or loksiu, you're innocent.

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[quote]原帖由 [i]貝蒂[/i] 於 2007-8-15 22:51 發表



:handshake 請明示我邊句說話 or post 有單打成分而令閣下禁我言呢？:bow: [/quote]


again, if you want me to take any action, pls PM me.  I will talk about it privately.

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[quote]原帖由 [i]xocatII[/i] 於 2007-8-15 23:06 發表



again, if you want me to take any action, pls PM me.  I will talk about it privately. [/quote]


:nono: 唔需要pm啦..我就覺得我無講錯任何一句o野..
你要禁言或ban 我..隨你 :byebye:

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[quote]原帖由 [i]潮爆阿叔[/i] 於 2007-8-15 23:17 發表

要番生�鼢N全部一齊, 一個都不能少!! [/quote]


:givemefive: 我完全同意!! :givemefive: :verygood:

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Three have returned

[quote]原帖由 [i]潮爆阿叔[/i] 於 2007-8-15 23:17 發表

我諗你誤會��, 我地大家都唔係太在意個網名.

過去呢一班人有邊個唔係對你恭恭敬敬?? 有邊個公開反過你??
但大家都有眼睇, 呢半年�薯身耖orum好多問題. 我地起初好言相勸, 但你一係就一意孤行, 一係就充耳不聞.

Please please.  Examples please... EXAMPLES.

但係另一方面, 你對pm你�鴾p人就言聽計從. 我地一班從不打小報告�鴾H, 堅持事無不可對人言�鴾葴A, 繼續�鰝帛悼X聲.
但你一直都冇認真咁去同我地好好咁討論過, 我唔明白點解你主持一個forum會咁倡議玩pm!?? 你有你�鴭魚u, 難度我地冇咩??

I'm sorry about this.  This is the bad nature of forum.  There are thousands of articles in the forum.  I can't read one by one.  But again, you didn't give me examples of the ones I neglect.  PM is better for technical/admin reasons because you can digest all of it for me.  So, it doesn't hurt you to use PM and posting forum at the same time.  

今次死��19個會員, 我諗有好多網友比你梗加唔開心, 唔係因為佢地冇�鱄蚨籉W, 而係因為經過�鼲搌灡伅��鼢虧�, 勸告, 反抗, 指責, "單打"之後, 你最終徹底走向極端, 將所有責任推得一乾二淨而痛心.

I think you didn't know the ultimate reason why I ban many of them.   Read read the previous posts la.  

道歉唔係難事, 我第一個同你講聲"sorry"(關於我措辭�鵀y酸刻薄), 但我依然認為你一直都係做錯��, 而你亦欠呢一班曾經用心用力幫過你�嚘穭秅@個解釋同道歉.

要番生�鼢N全部一齊, 一個都不能少!!

but if you're on the side of loksiu/crazybb, I will surely ban you at once.   Dare to tell me?
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this is an example of an article without concrete evidence.  Pls see above.  Though I will try to communicate more.  Thanks.

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大家唔好咁，
先resumemoderator同版主係我斗膽建議，
而大版主亦有做野，
有得傾係個好開始，
最緊要以和為贵。

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[quote]原帖由 [i]xocatII[/i] 於 2007-8-15 22:58 發表
stay calm every body.  Do you know why I ban many of the users involved in "that thread".  If you have involved in "that thread", you should know about it.  I'm not sure who mak ... [/quote]
大家何嘗唔係tax payers，但見到有罪案既發生，作為一個市民，係咪應該以社會安寧及公眾利益凌架於你所謂既forum利益？:wondering::wondering:

[quote]原帖由 [i]貝蒂[/i] 於 2007-8-16 03:23 AM 發表



:nono: 唔需要pm啦..我就覺得我無講錯任何一句o野..
你要禁言或ban 我..隨你 :byebye: [/quote]

京子 YOU HAVE A SRONG GROUND THEN STAND ON IT. DON'T GIVE UP!!!!!

TO: XOCAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW OLD YOU ARE, THIS INCIDENT SHOW YOU HAVEN'T GOT ENOUGH MANAGEMENT HANDLING  SKILLS. YOU ARE TOO GREEN.

THIS TIME, YOU KILL THEM ALL, THE OPPOSITION FORCE--YOU THINK. THEN WHAT? LATER NEW GUYS/LADIES COME, SOME OF THEM WILL FINALLY  BECOME YOUR ENEMIES, THEN YOU CERTAINLY WILL KILL WITH THEM NO MERCY LIKE THIS TIMEAGAIN. IS IT A SUCCESSFUL MANAGEMENT? CERTAINLY NOT!

YOU SHOULD THINK OF HOW TO STOP THE SAME PROBLEM FROM HAPPENING. WELL, IF YOU THINK OF THE DOWN SIDE, YOU SHOULD SHUT DOWN THE FORUM IMMEDIATELY. AS I ALWAYS SAY, WE ARE HERE SOLVING PROBLEM AND MAKING IT BETTER. YOU, WHO ARE THE RULE WRITTER, MUST OPEN YOUR MIND TO HEAR BEFORE MAKING ANY IMPORTANT DECISION. THIS TIME, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU HAVE DONE THIS BASIC SKILL. FROM THE FIRST ARTICLE OF THIS THREAD, I CAN SEE THAT YOU HAVE ONLY LISTENED TO YOUR SUPPORTERS BUT NOT THE OPPOSITIONS, OF COURSE NOT THE YOU-SO-CALL-FRIENDS.

:(

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[quote]原帖由 [i]惡少[/i] 於 2007-8-15 23:29 發表

點講? 佢ban我ban出癮喎. ;P [/quote]

I'm sorry, I hate you.  I'm seldom on the emotional side.  But you have made the things big.  So, you're right.  I'm addicted to banning you.   This is a forum.  If you don't like me, just leave.  If I don't like you, I have any reasons to ban you.  

Though I see what you have contributed in the past.  I appreciate that.  

I'm happy to see who are on the side of loksiu/crazybb.  I'm also happy to ban them at once.  Especially those who won't talk to me for concrete suggestions.   

Pls.  Though I said I hate you.  I have very strong reasons behind.  The reason is: you can't maintain a peaceful atsmophere of discussion.  And you broke the peace.

[quote]原帖由 [i]潮爆阿叔[/i] 於 2007-8-15 23:52 發表
我諗你誤會��, 我地大家都唔係太在意個網名.

過去呢一班人有邊個唔係對你恭恭敬敬?? 有邊個公開反過你??
但大家都有眼睇, 呢半年�薯身耖orum好多問題. 我地起初好言相勸, 但你一係就一意孤行, 一係就充耳不聞.

Please please.  Examples please... EXAMPLES.

wan1事件, 濫批版主事件, 閱讀權限255事件, 多不勝數....

xocat: Chi seen.  solved already la.  
xocat: 濫批版主事件.  Thanks.  I will be more careful about this.

但係另一方面, 你對pm你�鴾p人就言聽計從. 我地一班從不打小報告�鴾H, 堅持事無不可對人言�鴾葴A, 繼續�鰝帛悼X聲.
但你一直都冇認真咁去同我地好好咁討論過, 我唔明白點解你主持一個forum會咁倡議玩pm!?? 你有你�鴭魚u, 難度我地冇咩??

I'm sorry about this.  This is the bad nature of forum.  There are thousands of articles in the forum.  I can't read one by one.  But again, you didn't give me examples of the ones I neglect.  PM is better for technical/admin reasons because you can digest all of it for me.  So, it doesn't hurt you to use PM and posting forum at the same time.  

�鰝帛掄翰Y俾大家參與討論, pm只係小圈子意見, 不能取之以用.

今次死��19個會員, 我諗有好多網友比你梗加唔開心, 唔係因為佢地冇�鱄蚨籉W, 而係因為經過�鼲搌灡伅��鼢虧�, 勸告, 反抗, 指責, "單打"之後, 你最終徹底走向極端, 將所有責任推得一乾二淨而痛心.

I think you didn't know the ultimate reason why I ban many of them.   Read read the previous posts la.  

我諗你想人明白你之前, 麻煩先客觀地聽取反對�嬼n音.

道歉唔係難事, 我第一個同你講聲"sorry"(關於我措辭�鵀y酸刻薄), 但我依然認為你一直都係做錯��, 而你亦欠呢一班曾經用心用力幫過你�嚘穭秅@個解釋同道歉.

要番生�鼢N全部一齊, 一個都不能少!!

but if you're on the side of loksiu/crazybb, I will surely ban you at once.   Dare to tell me?

我係同意佢地�曚貌k!! 你可以話�麙黂hread冇問題??

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[quote]原帖由 [i]xocatII[/i] 於 2007-8-16 00:00 發表
原帖由 潮爆阿叔 於 2007-8-15 23:52 發表
我諗你誤會��, 我地大家都唔係太在意個網名.

過去呢一班人有邊個唔係對你恭恭敬敬?? 有邊個公開反過你??
但大家都有眼睇, 呢半年�薯身耖orum好多問題. 我地起初好言相勸, 但你一係就一意孤行, 一係就充耳不聞.

Please please.  Examples please... EXAMPLES.

wan1事件, 濫批版主事件, 閱讀權限255事件, 多不勝數....

xocat: Chi seen.  solved already la.  
xocat: 濫批版主事件.  Thanks.  I will be more careful about this.

但係另一方面, 你對pm你�鴾p人就言聽計從. 我地一班從不打小報告�鴾H, 堅持事無不可對人言�鴾葴A, 繼續�鰝帛悼X聲.
但你一直都冇認真咁去同我地好好咁討論過, 我唔明白點解你主持一個forum會咁倡議玩pm!?? 你有你�鴭魚u, 難度我地冇咩??

I'm sorry about this.  This is the bad nature of forum.  There are thousands of articles in the forum.  I can't read one by one.  But again, you didn't give me examples of the ones I neglect.  PM is better for technical/admin reasons because you can digest all of it for me.  So, it doesn't hurt you to use PM and posting forum at the same time.  

�鰝帛掄翰Y俾大家參與討論, pm只係小圈子意見, 不能取之以用.

今次死��19個會員, 我諗有好多網友比你梗加唔開心, 唔係因為佢地冇�鱄蚨籉W, 而係因為經過�鼲搌灡伅��鼢虧�, 勸告, 反抗, 指責, "單打"之後, 你最終徹底走向極端, 將所有責任推得一乾二淨而痛心.

I think you didn't know the ultimate reason why I ban many of them.   Read read the previous posts la.  

我諗你想人明白你之前, 麻煩先客觀地聽取反對�嬼n音.

道歉唔係難事, 我第一個同你講聲"sorry"(關於我措辭�鵀y酸刻薄), 但我依然認為你一直都係做錯��, 而你亦欠呢一班曾經用心用力幫過你�嚘穭秅@個解釋同道歉.

要番生�鼢N全部一齊, 一個都不能少!!

but if you're on the side of loksiu/crazybb, I will surely ban you at once.   Dare to tell me?

我係同意佢地�曚貌k!! 你可以話�麙黂hread冇問題??
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