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唔見你一輪
原來走黎呃神騙鬼
亦秉承你一貫風格... 要俾人圍剿先有快感  :verygood:

[quote]原帖由 [i]Vin神[/i] 於 2008-4-21 23:42 發表
我不明白blackdog 版主以什麼知識作為基礎，堅決地否決那牧師。
在他首個回覆小弟完全看不出任何客①v。
及後的回覆更能反映他對此事一無所知。
那豈能說那牧師妖言惑眾的神棍... ？

事實上，這位牧事確實是 ... [/quote]


想請問如何定義一個人鬼上身? 如果把一個有病的人當成鬼上身, 是不是迷信呢? 那麼跟喝神茶有什麼分別?

[quote]原帖由 [i]saltiwet[/i] 於 2008-4-22 21:54 發表



想請問如何定義一個人鬼上身? 如果把一個有病的人當成鬼上身, 是不是迷信呢? 那麼跟喝神茶有什麼分別? [/quote]

Regarding a plain definition of the term "demon possessed," it may be self explanatory-- someone possessed by demon.  I agree with you that sometimes it is difficult to tell their differences but I think we should treat the person as someone having a medical problem FIRST instead of a 'demon possessed' one.  It is just too dangerous for us to mis-judge a medical case, and the symptom of a 'demon possessed' case will emerge eventually.

子不語：怪，力，亂，神。         論語

註：一帖兩投

[quote]原帖由 [i]西南風[/i] 於 2008-4-23 10:42 發表
子不語：怪，力，亂，神。         論語

註：一帖兩投 [/quote]

Coming to the forum section of " Philosophy & Religion 哲學宗教" and quoting "子不語：怪，力，亂，神" for your position of discussion :wondering::wondering::wondering:

No matter what, science/statistics/research(scientific) is the one to distinguish if something is right or wrong (and also the probability of being true)  Pls try to discuss scientifically.

[quote]原帖由 [i]xocatII[/i] 於 2008-4-27 02:22 發表
No matter what, science/statistics/research(scientific) is the one to distinguish if something is right or wrong (and also the probability of being true)  Pls try to discuss scientifically. [/quote]

大版主的說話真的是十分中肯!!!
非常佩服!!!:verygood::verygood::verygood::verygood::verygood:

我信林牧師講既野
你地都未見過驅鬼係怎樣
當你地見過就明白嫁啦

[quote]原帖由 [i]#飛#[/i] 於 2008-5-7 20:54 發表
我信林牧師講既野
你地都未見過驅鬼係怎樣
當你地見過就明白嫁啦 [/quote]



真遺憾, 可惜佢既書只能當小說看, 而不能跟聖經放在一起!!
不信的話你可以到商務印書館看一看就明白...!!!

[quote]原帖由 [i]#飛#[/i] 於 2008-5-7 20:54 發表
我信林牧師講既野
你地都未見過驅鬼係怎樣
當你地見過就明白嫁啦 [/quote]


當然, 如果你信佢的話沒有人阻止你, 這是你的人權, 你的自由!!!
之不過姓林既書只能當娛樂, 而不能用專業知識(professional knowledge)來看他的書!!!!

[quote]原帖由 [i]花之慶次[/i] 於 2008-5-7 22:56 發表



當然, 如果你信佢的話沒有人阻止你, 這是你的人權, 你的自由!!!
之不過姓林既書只能當娛樂, 而不能用專業知識(professional knowledge)來看他的書!!!! [/quote]

If we are talking about 林以諾, then no one can say for himself concerning what kind of person he is.  However, if we are talking about 姓林既書, then we will have to deal with the matter based on facts and not 林以諾 himself.

Therefore, if we are talking about supernatural power or evil power, then the basic question is that on what bases we are going to discuss.  If we base on scientific evidence, then there will be no discussion because by definition, supernatural power is a subject which is already beyond scientific facts.

In order to avoid discussing an "apple" subject with "orange" criteria, we have to be clear about our subject and discussion criteria.  Without a common ground, it is difficult to discuss to find the truth and easy to get into personal attack.