b4321 2008-6-24 16:13
BHP and Rio Tinto
One should hold BHP (必和必拓) and Rio Tinto (力拓) or mining funds for long if having any. China seems don't have any negotiating power.
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國際鐵礦石价格談判近十年以來談判時間最長的一次年度談判,昨日終于又有了一個定論,寶鋼在2月与巴西淡水河谷公司達成65%和71%的漲价協議后,又与澳大利亞最大的鐵礦石供應商力拓公司達成粉礦和塊礦分別上漲79.88%和96.5%的協議,該漲幅高于淡水河谷的漲幅,亞洲市場第一次出現了兩种鐵礦石長協价格。業內人士表示,由于受到上游資源的約束,中方還是向澳洲企業妥協了,而這一漲幅對現有的鐵礦石談判規則產生了沖擊。
寶鋼昨日表示,為了維護傳統定价机制,維持正常的市場秩序,保持上下游的長期友好合作,寶鋼和力拓公司經過友好協商,最終達成了2008年度鐵礦石价格。作為結果,力拓的PB粉礦、楊迪粉礦、PB塊礦將在2007年基礎上分別上漲79.88%、79.88%、96.5%。新的2008礦石年度的力拓PB粉礦、楊迪粉礦、PB塊礦的基准价格分別為1.4466美元/干吨度、1.4466美元/干吨度和2.0169美元/干吨度。
中澳的談判最終沒有破裂,但是這一苦澀的結果是以鋼厂的無奈讓步、力拓的大獲全胜為代价所換來的,相信另一巨頭必和必拓也會跟隨這一結果。与淡水河谷上漲65%─71%幅度相比,該結果分別高出了約15、25個百分點,這意味著中國鋼厂將多支付 7─17美元/吨,吨鋼成本額外增加約11美元─26美元。
peninsula 2008-6-24 20:57
[quote]原帖由 [i]b4321[/i] 於 2008-6-24 16:13 發表
One should hold BHP (必和必拓) and Rio Tinto (力拓) or mining funds for . [/quote]
Not affected by global fall in equities?:wondering::L
b4321 2008-6-24 21:47
Natural resources stocks in Australia are still out-standing and are near record high. Don't look at the China natural stock shares as the markets are twisted.
There should be higher inflation in the coming year.
[quote]原帖由 [i]peninsula[/i] 於 2008-6-24 20:57 發表
Not affected by global fall in equities?:wondering::L [/quote]
CHANGMAO 2008-6-24 23:51
[quote]原帖由 [i]b4321[/i] 於 2008-6-24 21:47 發表
Natural resources stocks in Australia are still out-standing and are near record high. Don't look at the China natural stock shares as the markets are twisted.
There should be higher inflation i ... [/quote]
Yes it affects 2009 steel price.
But I think this growth in raw material price is moderate, if price quoted is terms of USD (not AUD).
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peninsula 2008-6-25 09:50
[quote]原帖由 [i]CHANGMAO[/i] 於 2008-6-24 23:51 發表
Yes it affects 2009 steel price.
But I think this growth in raw material price is moderate, if price quoted is terms of USD (not AUD). [/quote]
Reports say up by nearly 100% wor!:afraid::oh::jaw:
b4321 2008-6-25 10:58
International trading and settlement should use USD. Australia is only a small country (only ~20M population), and AUD is only a small currency.
Anyway, AUD should continue to be strong becoz of strong demand:
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一份政府報告預計2008-09年澳洲商品出口將增加40%,成為最大年增幅。這進一步提醒人們利率將不會在短期內削減。
此預測將大幅增加國家收入,并最終滲透到整個經濟,貿易條件的大大提升很可能刺激消費。利率短期內不會下降,而在年底前可能有必要進一步加息, 以防止預期的消費增加。
而家庭預算開支也可能因為從7月1日起新的所得稅削減生效而增加。經濟學家預計澳洲儲備銀行不會在7月的董事局會議時提高利率,但預計在官方通脹數据于7月23日公布后,8月的儲銀會議有更大的机會加息。
報告預測鐵礦石、煤炭、原油、黃金和鋁的价格在2008至09年度會進一步上漲,而礦產出口量也預測顯著增長 。 但農業資源經濟統計局也同時表示,預計出口商不能夠得到匯率的緩解,澳元預計仍將保持強勁勢頭。
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peninsula 2008-6-25 20:32
[quote]原帖由 [i]b4321[/i] 於 2008-6-25 10:58 發表
International trading and settlement should use USD. Australia is only a small country (only ~20M population), and AUD is only a small currency. . [/quote]
Yes, poise at 0.96 again.:applause::)