OrangeFai 2008-7-6 21:14
反對xocat forum售賣可能影響會員的道具
見下圖
1. 「變色卡」可以變換主題的顏色,並保存24小時
→呢個權限唔係應該由版主先可以擁有的咩? :burst:
→而且買左呢種道具的會員, 唔止可以改變自己所發的thread, 仲可以搞埋人地條thread??! :dizzy:
→就算剩係自己改自己條thread, 一陣間搞到個版五顏六色, 好似賭波版咁, 有需要的threads先會highlight, 如果咁落去法世界大亂喇? :nono:
2. IP卡 可以查看帖子作者的IP
→最離譜係呢個! IP係每個網友的私隱, 以後版主只係因為職責有需要先可以查閱會員的ip, 而家三狗唔識七無喇喇俾人知道自己ip? 有無搞錯??! :burst:
3. 隱身卡 可以將自己的帖子匿名
→呢個亦係唔掂! 可以將自己的post匿名? 點解要匿名先? 我只係諗到最可能用呢種道具係講野不負責的人! 點解大版主xocatII要助長呢種不良風氣?
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仲有其他亦各有問題, 不過今日唔得閒, 打唔晒, 遲d再講過!
其他會員有咩意見亦可發表.
本文將會即時報告予xocatII. :reading:
fwa 2008-7-6 22:43
我都覺得吾須要攪咁多花臣嘢
支持輝哥向batman反應:applause:
xocatII 2008-7-6 23:17
1. 「變色卡」可以變換主題的顏色,並保存24小時
→呢個權限唔係應該由版主先可以擁有的咩?
→而且買左呢種道具的會員, 唔止可以改變自己所發的thread, 仲可以搞埋人地條thread??!
→就算剩係自己改自己條thread, 一陣間搞到個版五顏六色, 好似賭波版咁, 有需要的threads先會highlight, 如果咁落去法世界大亂喇?
colourful problem won't happen. First, I have the price of 600, that means that they have to use a lot of money to do this. Also, it only happens for 24 hours. After that, it will be restored. It is just for fun. If 世界大亂 did happen, we can fix it. Just let it be for a period of time.
2. IP卡 可以查看帖子作者的IP
→最離譜係呢個! IP係每個網友的私隱, 以後版主只係因為職責有需要先可以查閱會員的ip, 而家三狗唔識七無喇喇俾人知道自己ip? 有無搞錯??!
I have disabled this.
3. 隱身卡 可以將自己的帖子匿名
→呢個亦係唔掂! 可以將自己的post匿名? 點解要匿名先? 我只係諗到最可能用呢種道具係講野不負責的人! 點解大版主xocatII要助長呢種不良風氣?
It is also for fun only. Also, moderators can view who post the anonymous post. So, problem won't occur, I will also increase its price to prevent 濫用. No worry too much. If shit happens, we can fix it easily.
紅豆沙 2008-7-6 23:33
[quote]原帖由 [i]xocatII[/i] 於 2008-7-6 11:17 PM 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4826325&ptid=203865][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
It is also for fun only[/quote]
[color=darkorchid]只係你一個人覺得fun，完全唔同意！[/color]
[size=7][color=red][b]強列反對！[/b][/color][/size]
xocatII 2008-7-6 23:42
if you disagree, you may want to provide evidence of the problem.
紅豆沙 2008-7-6 23:45
[quote]原帖由 [i]xocatII[/i] 於 2008-7-6 11:42 PM 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4826534&ptid=203865][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
if you disagree, you may want to provide evidence of the problem. [/quote]
[color=darkorchid]你老人家好善忙吧，我想請問你，當日好似有一位管理員，[/color]
[color=darkorchid]highlight 教育版的一條thread，[color=red]請問該條thread是否important呢[/color]？[/color]
[color=#9932cc]係咪好funny呢？ :saujai: [/color]
紅豆沙 2008-7-6 23:46
[quote]原帖由 [i]xocatII[/i] 於 2008-7-6 11:42 PM 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4826534&ptid=203865][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
if you disagree, you may want to provide evidence of the problem. [/quote]
[color=darkorchid]若果冇問題，就唔會[/color][size=7][color=red][b]有會員反對[/b][/color][/size][color=darkorchid]啦！[/color]
xocatII 2008-7-6 23:48
I have fine tuned the usage of them to better suit the public like changing the price of them. For highlighting bug before, I've fixed it at once. Fixing it is easy.
happycamel 2008-7-7 00:11
:reading:
OMG :burst: :burst: :burst:
happycamel 2008-7-7 00:14
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[quote]If shit happens, we can fix it easily.[/quote]
What if the shit hits the fan :lol
happycamel 2008-7-7 00:20
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[quote]Fixing it is easy.[/quote]
You are asking for trouble!
So that you can fix it?
ktwu2005 2008-7-7 00:48
[quote]原帖由 [i]紅豆沙[/i] 於 2008-7-6 23:45 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4826555&ptid=203865][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
你老人家好善忙吧，我想請問你，當日好似有一位管理員，
highlight 教育版的一條thread，請問該條thread是否important呢？
係咪好funny呢？ :saujai: [/quote]
唔係同你唱反調, 我想問下你知唔知除我, 仲有無其他會員用變色咭,
你覺得依家好多人用, 好混亂咩?
我唔知道如果d 題目變到五顏六色真係有咩問題?
不如你說說, 是否會令你覺得有咩問題?
Butt 2008-7-7 01:18
[quote]原帖由 [i]ktwu2005[/i] 於 2008-7-7 00:48 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4827171&ptid=203865][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
[color=blue]唔係同你唱反調, 我想問下你知唔知除我, 仲有無其他會員用變色咭,
你覺得依家好多人用, 好混亂咩?
我唔知道如果d 題目變到五顏六色真係有咩問題?
不如你說說, 是否會令你覺得有咩問題?[/color] [/quote]
曾有某管理人以為自己的作品好「經典」，驚死大家眼大睇過龍，
唔係將佢地高亮就係置頂。。。 :help:
而家咁樣幾好丫，有米就可以玩高亮，人人平等！ :D
有錢就係萬能，邊度都係一樣！大版主，我撐你！ :beer:
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[[i] 本帖最後由 Butt 於 2008-7-7 01:20 編輯 [/i]]
OrangeFai 2008-7-7 04:44
[quote]原帖由 [i]xocatII[/i] 於 2008-7-6 23:17 發表 [url=http://xocat.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4826325&ptid=203865][img]http://xocat.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
1. 「變色卡」可以變換主題的顏色,並保存24小時
→呢個權限唔係應該由版主先可以擁有的咩?
→而且買左呢種道具的會員, 唔止可以改變自己所發的thread, 仲可以搞埋人地條thread??!
→就算剩係自己改自己條thread, 一陣間搞到個版五顏六色, 好似賭波版咁, 有需要的threads先會highlight, 如果咁落去法世界大亂喇?
colourful problem won't happen. First, I have the price of 600, that means that they have to use a lot of money to do this. Also, it only happens for 24 hours. After that, it will be restored. It is just for fun. If 世界大亂 did happen, we can fix it. Just let it be for a period of time.
[/quote]ridiculous!
It is so easy to find an example to controvert what you have said.
Just like the one I mention above, in Soccer Gambling Board, COLOURS of every thread give an crucial signal to all members who would like to participate in those games. If someone use these kinds of "Special Tools" to highlight other threads which are no longer useful or not up-to-dated, It probably causes serious confusion to members!
These threads will only be used for about 1-2 days. According to the record, we REALLY REALLY realize how busy you are and how PROMPT your responses are!! :fire: :(
In other boards, highlighted threads usually consist of very important information that members must know.
Therefore, This function and the right should be owned by Moderators merely and must be carefully used!
and this "Tools"(right) should.... must not be sold to members who are not moderators!![quote]原帖由 xocatII 於 2008-7-6 23:17 發表
3. 隱身卡 可以將自己的帖子匿名
→呢個亦係唔掂! 可以將自己的post匿名? 點解要匿名先? 我只係諗到最可能用呢種道具係講野不負責的人! 點解大版主xocatII要助長呢種不良風氣?
It is also for fun only. Also, moderators can view who post the anonymous post. So, problem won't occur, I will also increase its price to prevent 濫用. No worry too much. If shit happens, we can fix it easily. [/quote]If you can predict what sort of problems will be derived/produced, why you still insist this is "fun" but not a "potential hazard"??
Besides, you said:[quote]原帖由 xocatII 於 2008-7-6 23:17 發表
2. IP卡 可以查看帖子作者的IP
→最離譜係呢個! IP係每個網友的私隱, 以後版主只係因為職責有需要先可以查閱會員的ip, 而家三狗唔識七無喇喇俾人知道自己ip? 有無搞錯??!
I have disabled this. [/quote]HA, you can disable this, why can't you disable the above "tools" ??
The most curious and preposterous thing is, the answer you have given in Case 1 and 3, can be transplanted to CASE 2!!
see!!![quote]2. IP卡 可以查看帖子作者的IP
→最離譜係呢個! IP係每個網友的私隱, 以後版主只係因為職責有需要先可以查閱會員的ip, 而家三狗唔識七無喇喇俾人知道自己ip? 有無搞錯??!
[color=Red]It is also for fun only. ...... I will also increase its price to prevent 濫用. No worry too much. If shit happens, we can fix it easily. [/quote][/color]
I, sincerely hope you should think twice if you still think these kinds of "FUN" will benefit all and won't trouble youself and us!!!! :fire:
OrangeFai 2008-7-7 04:48
[quote]原帖由 [i]ktwu2005[/i] 於 2008-7-7 00:48 發表 [url=http://xocat.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4827171&ptid=203865][img]http://xocat.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
唔係同你唱反調, 我想問下你知唔知除我, 仲有無其他會員用變色咭,
你覺得依家好多人用, 好混亂咩?
我唔知道如果d 題目變到五顏六色真係有咩問題?
不如你說說, 是否會令你覺得有咩問題? [/quote]而家係咪要等到真係有事先至後知後覺出來"fix the problems"??! :fire:
Butt 2008-7-7 09:51
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def_lo 2008-7-7 11:12
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Perhaps xocat can explain further on the rationale behind such new features!!
心思思 2008-7-7 12:31
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xocatII 2008-7-7 13:08
[quote]原帖由 [i]OrangeFai[/i] 於 2008-7-7 04:44 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4828374&ptid=203865][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
ridiculous!
It is so easy to find an example to controvert what you have said.
Just like the one I mention above, in Soccer Gambling Board, COLOURS of every thread give an crucial signal to all memb ... [/quote]
I got your point. So, I disabled the changing colour function in the soccer gambling board. For other boards, we can test it first. Please. Just test drive.
ktwu2005 2008-7-7 13:21
[quote]原帖由 [i]OrangeFai[/i] 於 2008-7-7 04:44 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4828374&ptid=203865][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
ridiculous!
It is so easy to find an example to controvert what you have said.
Just like the one I mention above, in Soccer Gambling Board, COLOURS of every thread give an crucial signal to all memb ... [/quote]
睇完你篇文, "busy"?????? out dated will highlight?????
我覺得 xocat 全繁忙的版只有 "戀足" 或 某幾個成人版, 每日都有千多個新回應 / 帖.
但是你賭球版本身版主已經把主題分類 / 分色. 其實此版有顏色的都已經置頂.
其實, 在下面的主題有多種顏色的都不影響, 已且我們普通會員用的變色片沒有[b] "B" [/b]的功能,
如果, 版主有特定的主題可以加這兩個功能把主題特出 / 置頂.
busy 的問題, 其實此版有4個超級版主, 應該可以分擔工作了吧.
out dated will highlight, 我知道當然版主有權可將任何不合時 / 無聊的主題掉進垃圾桶.
其他咭的問題, 我沒有意見.
6 2008-7-8 01:14
講咁耐，有無人買過？？？
ktwu2005 2008-7-8 02:14
有無搞錯, 使唔使咁貴:Q
happycamel 2008-7-8 02:22
[quote]原帖由 [i]ktwu2005[/i] 於 2008-7-8 02:14 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4837054&ptid=203865][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
有無搞錯, 使唔使咁貴:Q [/quote]
我好似900左右買左張變色卡
唔識用 最好笑係有個丟棄制 :lol
No fun at all!
ktwu2005 2008-7-8 02:45
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嗯, 其實好易, 你每進入一個thread, 都有一個網址......>(this) [url]http://forum.timway.com/f/thread-203865-1-1.html[/url]
只要 copy 203865, 放在他說的 tid, 便可以.
其實跟本就不是什麼, 不過人家又不回我的問題.
可能我的級數不配跟你交流.
HJ2127_ATR1 2008-7-8 16:18
[quote]原帖由 [i]xocatII[/i] 於 2008-7-7 13:08 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4830867&ptid=203865][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
I got your point. So, I disabled the changing colour function in the soccer gambling board. For other boards, we can test it first. Please. Just test drive. [/quote]
[color=darkgreen]大版主，可唔可以博友天地，跑馬版都 disable 呀？ :wondering: [/color]
手生磨芝麻糊 2008-7-8 16:34
[quote]原帖由 [i]HJ2127_ATR1[/i] 於 2008-7-8 16:18 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4840866&ptid=203865][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
大版主，可唔可以博友天地，跑馬版都 disable 呀？ :wondering: [/quote]
依家 set 到 800蚊一張, 變色時間得日半 (30小時) , 如果有人係你個版用, 你都要加多 60 蚊比佢:slap:
HJ2127_ATR1 2008-7-8 17:15
[quote]原帖由 [i]手生磨芝麻糊[/i] 於 2008-7-8 16:34 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4840980&ptid=203865][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
依家 set 到 800蚊一張, 變色時間得日半 (30小時) , 如果有人係你個版用, 你都要加多 60 蚊比佢:slap: [/quote]
[color=darkgreen]咁我唔知要幾多錢喎，因我冇入去玩！
至於加分就唔會了，唔移走佢都偷笑！ :lol 而家冇馬跑，都冇咩所謂！ [/color]
anakin 2008-7-8 21:28
[quote]原帖由 [i]xocatII[/i] 於 2008-7-7 13:08 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4830867&ptid=203865][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
I got your point. So, I disabled the changing colour function in the soccer gambling board. For other boards, we can test it first. Please. Just test drive. [/quote]
煩請大版主將"成人電影版"個D乜咭物咭既功能disable ！:bow: :bow:
PS : 懇請大版主恢復"被禁言會員的帖會自動屏敝"的功能。
ktwu2005 2008-7-8 21:55
[quote]原帖由 [i]anakin[/i] 於 2008-7-8 21:28 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4842978&ptid=203865][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
煩請大版主將"成人電影版"個D乜咭物咭既功能disable ！:bow: :bow:
PS : 懇請大版主恢復"被禁言會員的帖會自動屏敝"的功能。 [/quote]
其實, 我唔明點解要反對, 請問有無原因?
冰河 2008-7-8 21:57
[quote]原帖由 [i]anakin[/i] 於 2008-7-8 21:28 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4842978&ptid=203865][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
懇請大版主恢復"被禁言會員的帖會自動屏敝"的功能。 [/quote]
X2 !!! :bow:
anakin 2008-7-8 23:22
[quote]原帖由 [i]ktwu2005[/i] 於 2008-7-8 21:55 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4843123&ptid=203865][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
其實, 我唔明點解要反對, 請問有無原因? [/quote]
IP卡：
關係到會員私隱，一個負責任有良心的論壇，應該予以尊重同保障，並不是用來just for fun！
更何況以前試過有女會員因為IP外洩而被騷擾，雖然未必同xocat有關，但亦應該有所警惕。
提升卡：
論壇本身有評分制度，一個受認同既主題，自然有人加分，反之，亦會有人扣分，這並不是發帖者可以控制；某種情度上可以鼓勵會員多貼有質素的文章。
用金錢買提升卡就可以提升，事情變得容易，自己推自己的發帖也可以，某種情度上會拖低論壇文章的質素。
置頂卡：
用虛擬金錢就可以置頂二十四小時，先不說鱔稿廣告，那些洗樓射鞋、幼齒亂倫圖文、賣迷姦水、濫藥的帖，全部都可以置頂，論壇的質素還可以保持嗎?
雖說有版主監察，但每位義務的版主都可以廾四小時全版監察嗎?受薪的大版主也不可以吧。
狗仔卡：
查看某位會員是否在綫，那麽現有的隱身功能就形同虛設。
移動卡：
容易為所有版面制造文不對版的文章，直接造成混亂。
喧囂卡、沉默卡：
誰會要貼一些不能回覆的文章?
總括，將個論壇變成card game，容許會員用虛擬金錢去搗亂自家的管理，想出來那位己是有問題的，實行那位更加是難以理解；試問其他在港知名用[url=http://www.discuz.net/][b][color=#0954a6]Discuz![/color][/b][/url] [b][i][color=#ff9d25]6.0.0[/color][/i][/b] 的論壇，又有那個會用這些反轉自家論壇的道具?
OrangeFai 2008-7-8 23:31
[quote]原帖由 [i]anakin[/i] 於 2008-7-8 23:22 發表 [url=http://xocat.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4843940&ptid=203865][img]http://xocat.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
IP卡：
關係到會員私隱，一個負責任有良心的論壇，應該予以尊重同保障，並不是用來just for fun！
更何況以前試過有女會員因為IP外洩而被騷擾，雖然未必同xocat有關，但亦應該有所警惕。
提升卡：
論壇本身有 ... [/quote]完全同意!! :verygood: :handshake
happycamel 2008-7-8 23:38
回復 anakin 31# 的帖子
同意 :verygood:
[quote]有那個會用這些反轉自家論壇的道具?[/quote]
XOCATII 囉 :lol
ktwu2005 2008-7-8 23:47
IP卡：已 del.
提升卡：我知道如果用道具推一些 outdate 的題目的有記錄, 當然可以禁言.
置頂卡：其實, 我覺得有許多版主都不是天天上線, 要他們處理這置頂的廣告的確是問題, 我自己都見過有不少這些夜更洗版的會員. 所以我覺得有心洗版 / 廣告的人, 跟本不關置頂的問題.
狗仔卡：未用過....
移動卡：和提升咭的原因一樣
喧囂卡、沉默卡：未用過....
ps: 其實, 我本人只想保留變色咭, 和希望 xocat 大版主調低其價格及訂下使用的守
則, 限定每版的使用守則, 有些版不可以使用置頂咭 / 提升卡 / 顏色卡或完全禁止....( [color=red]請其他管理員 / 版主也提出回應) 不要一句 "請 disable 在自己某版用卡的功能[/color])
OrangeFai 2008-7-9 00:32
[quote]原帖由 [i]ktwu2005[/i] 於 2008-7-8 23:47 發表 [url=http://xocat.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4844220&ptid=203865][img]http://xocat.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
IP卡：已 del.
提升卡：我知道如果用道具推一些 outdate 的題目的有記錄, 當然可以禁言.
置頂卡：其實, 我覺得有許多版主都不是天天上線, 要他們處理這置頂的廣告的確是問題, 我自己都見過有不少這些夜更洗版的會員. 所以我覺得有心洗版 / 廣告的人, 跟本不關置頂的問題.
狗仔卡：未用過....
移動卡：和提升咭的原因一樣
喧囂卡、沉默卡：未用過....
ps: 其實, 我本人只想保留變色咭, 和希望 xocat 大版主調低其價格及訂下使用的守
則, 限定每版的使用守則, 有些版不可以使用置頂咭 / 提升卡 / 顏色卡或完全禁止....( [color=red]請其他管理員 / 版主也提出回應) 不要一句 "請 disable 在自己某版用卡的功能[/color])
[/quote]我唔係版主, 不過我都要回一回你.
你口口聲聲講我地的理據點點點唔充份, 你認為上面的一班超級版主/版主真係屎忽痕專登同你& xocatII搞對抗嗎?
我又只係想問下你, 你點解咁執意要保留呢d乜卡先?
討論區的原意, 就係俾所有人公平的環境去發言.
而現行(亦係所有大小forum所行的system)就係, 有人氣、有回覆的就會繼續留在第一版, 無人關心、人們唔想再睇的就自然會下沉.
而顏色, 你自己睇下, highlight過的threads, 無論係呢度定係出面, 一定係版主/管理員認為係重要先會highlight俾人睇.
你要呢d置頂、顏色卡請問有咩用? 居心何在?
如果你中意/你自己條thread真係有人喜歡繼續討論, 使乜出埋呢d橫手去提升番自己條thread?
如果你條thread入面真係有咁重要的資訊, 版主自然會給予處理；否則搞到個版五顏六色, 呃其他會員入去睇完一輪發現原來係無乜用/佢地唔想/唔需要知的野, 搞到個個無癮唔通好好玩?
你又話, 各版版主可以對濫用/誤會呢d卡的人予以處分, 既然可以預見呢d卡可能會製造咁的麻煩, 而又唔見得對forum的會員有乜野「fun」, 點解唔cancel左呢樣野佢, 反而係等到出左事先再來補救?
ktwu2005 2008-7-9 01:12
[quote]原帖由 [i]OrangeFai[/i] 於 2008-7-9 00:32 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4844697&ptid=203865][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
我唔係版主, 不過我都要回一回你.
你口口聲聲講我地的理據點點點唔充份, 你認為上面的一班超級版主/版主真係屎忽痕專登同你& xocatII搞對抗嗎?
我又只係想問下你, 你點解咁執意要保留呢d乜卡先?
討論區的原意, ... [/quote]
其實, 我知道應該仲有d 咭未出尼比人玩, 因為我係其他壇玩過, 可是最終都全部被 del.
你說得對, 我真的想保留顏色卡, 其實真的沒有什麼大不了, 你看模型版 / 玩具版 / 主播版....,
有不少也被版主設置高亮 / 精華, 其實真的沒有什麼問題, 只是將版主的權力分享.
置頂咭, 如果有規則使用, 我相信也可以保留, 因為要600xocat 錢, 普通一個新會員, 相信要發100個帖先有.
其實, 把所有卡 del. 是容易的事, 一齊回到基本. 沒有人知道洗版 / 搞破壞的人, 何事出來, 要防他們的方法,
取消這卡功能對他們真的有影響:wondering:
anakin 2008-7-9 01:57
[quote]其實, 我知道應該仲有d 咭未出尼比人玩, 因為我係[color=red]其他壇玩過, 可是最終都全部被 del.[/color]
你說得對, 我真的想保留顏色卡, 其實真的沒有什麼大不了, 你看模型版 / 玩具版 / 主播版....,
有不少也被版主設置高亮 / 精華, 其實真的沒有什麼問題, 只是將版主的權力分享.
置頂咭, 如果有規則使用, 我相信也可以保留, 因為要600xocat 錢, 普通一個新會員, 相信要發100個帖先有.
其實, 把所有卡 del. 是容易的事, 一齊回到基本. 沒有人知道洗版 / 搞破壞的人, 何事出來, 要防他們的方法,
取消這卡功能對他們真的有影響[/quote]
是好東西就不會被del，既然己有前例，點解仲要撞個頭埋去?
傳統做法主題被版主設置高亮 / 精華,是有其意義的，代表該版對該主題的認同；如果發文者可以自行將其發佈主的主題設置高亮，那就無法突顯真正被廣受認同的題材，這會對鼓勵有質素的發表有負面的影响。
至於版主的權力分享，版主的權力從來不值600xocat 錢，申請做版主是免費的；
一句無意議的句子，只要用上隱藏功能或者用上要求要超過某分數才可覽閱的功能，己經可以吸引到一眾無聊會員爭相回覆，當中更不乏以ddddddddddd之類的回覆，現在只要有600xocat 錢就可以將一篇文章置頂，就更加是變相鼓勵灌水洗版。
xocatII 2008-7-9 10:33
[quote]原帖由 [i]happycamel[/i] 於 2008-7-8 23:38 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4844118&ptid=203865][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
同意 :verygood:
XOCATII 囉 :lol [/quote]
I strongly warn you: happycamel. As a 版主, pls learn to discuss matter instead of discussing persons. If you have any ideas on the tools, discuss matter like Orange or Anakin. They can discuss rationally. After removing your right of moderator, I keep an eye on you. If you still attack on me instead of my behaviour and forum matter, I will remove your right.
With regard to the tools, I really understand your concerns. I think the major problem is 濫用 or not. So, I will increase the price subsantially. And test it if problems do exist. Also, if members misbehave, I can ban him. Actually, this is an open forum. So any new member can misbehave easily by posting rubbish... but all these years, we see the culture has changed. Members become better and better instead of those in 2001. We start our forum as a pioneer and during the early years, members do not behave so well. Now, they are educated to be better. Instead of controlling, we have to let them try. One good example is [url=http://www.wikipedia.org]www.wikipedia.org[/url]. Anyone can edit the posts. Just try it. Anyone can do bad to the post. But somehow, it is controlled so well. Please try [url=http://www.wikipedia.org]www.wikipedia.org[/url] before asking me to limit the functions of this board. wikipedia has to face all the challenges throughout the world. Again, I want to say I agree with Anakin and Orange. So, I will tune accordingly. I do accept good opinions to make this forum better. Please also note that only those long term contribution members can make use of the 道具... so problems won't be big.
happycamel 2008-7-9 11:39
[quote]原帖由 [i]xocatII[/i] 於 2008-7-9 10:33 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4847108&ptid=203865][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
I strongly warn you: happycamel.... [/quote]
Point taken. Sorry.
冰河 2008-7-9 16:10
[quote]原帖由 [i]anakin[/i] 於 2008-7-9 01:57 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4845396&ptid=203865][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
傳統做法主題被版主設置高亮 / 精華,是有其意義的，代表該版對該主題的認同；如果發文者可以自行將其發佈主的主題設置高亮，那就無法突顯真正被廣受認同的題材，這會對鼓勵有質素的發表有負面的影响。 [/quote]
100% agree !!! :givemefive:
dog.eat.dog 2008-7-9 16:38
[quote]原帖由 [i]happycamel[/i] 於 2008-7-9 11:39 發表 [url=http://xocat.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4847475&ptid=203865][img]http://xocat.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Point taken. Sorry. [/quote]
[b][size=7][color=red]能屈能伸..好！:lol [/color][/size][/b]
[[i] 本帖最後由 dog.eat.dog 於 2008-7-9 20:29 編輯 [/i]]
beautiful 2008-7-9 22:13
太好了無左 IP卡 ..............:clap:
happycamel 2008-7-10 12:22
回復 41# 的帖子
多謝關心 :lol
熙官 2008-7-10 18:24
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ericwong4362 2008-7-10 20:54
两个都系你黎架？甘friend既？:lol :lol :lol
dog.eat.dog 2008-7-10 23:11
[quote]原帖由 [i]ericwong4362[/i] 於 2008-7-10 20:54 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4861657&ptid=203865][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
两个都系你黎架？甘friend既？:lol :lol :lol [/quote]
你冇朋友咁L&^架?:lol
anakin 2008-7-11 00:50
[quote]原帖由 [i]xocatII[/i] 於 2008-7-9 10:33 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4847108&ptid=203865][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
One good example is [url=http://www.wikipedia.org/]www.wikipedia.org[/url]. Anyone can edit the posts. Just try it. Anyone can do bad to the post. But somehow, it is controlled so well. Please try [url=http://www.wikipedia.org/]www.wikipedia.org[/url] before asking me to limit the functions of this board. wikipedia has to face all the challenges throughout the world.
[/quote]
想集百家學說去做一本舉世認同的百科全書，大家都可以參與編寫，維基的確是一個突破性的做法；但亦是因為這個突破性的想法，令到維基百科全書難被認同，並不是參與編寫的人學識不夠，而是太多太雜，縱然敢於面對世界，但一本可以由任不知名網民編輯的百科全書，其可信性及學術性又有多高?
道具卡的玩法，就等同開放版主現行的功能一樣，人人都可以參與管理，但可行嗎?
用虛擬金錢去買管理權，真接造成的混亂，可以想像一下，
有會員發表一篇違規內容如尋歡鱔稿明賣廣告的文章，跟住使用置頂卡去置頂，本來版主就應該亳不猷疑去删除，但行駛置頂卡，就等同大版主認可，試問版主又應怎樣處理?向大版主你投訴，等你回來處理又要多久?
並不是大版主要推行甚麼新規定新玩法都要版主們同意，但總該向版主們講解一下，遇有甚麽情況發生應該怎樣處理，有些明確一點的指引，版主們才可配合你。
PS :
如果無會員詢問道具卡的事，會有幾多個版主知道有道具卡的存在?
ericwong4362 2008-7-12 00:10
[quote]原帖由 [i]dog.eat.dog[/i] 於 2008-7-10 23:11 發表 [url=http://59.188.23.229/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4863004&ptid=203865][img]http://59.188.23.229/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
你冇朋友咁[size=7][color=red]L&^[/color][/size]架?:lol [/quote]
竟然用暗号？呵呵…你都系成人版D网友！:lol :lol :lol
xocatII 2008-7-12 21:03
[quote]原帖由 [i]anakin[/i] 於 2008-7-11 00:50 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=4864371&ptid=203865][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
想集百家學說去做一本舉世認同的百科全書，大家都可以參與編寫，維基的確是一個突破性的做法；但亦是因為這個突破性的想法，令到維基百科全書難被認同，並不是參與編寫的人學識不夠，而是太多太雜，縱然敢於面對世界，但一本可以由任不知名網民編輯的百科全書，其可信性及學術性又有多高?
xocat: but in fact, it is so well organized and presented so well. Any bad example you can find in wiki?
道具卡的玩法，就等同開放版主現行的功能一樣，人人都可以參與管理，但可行嗎?
wiki works. I don't believe it 2 years before. Now let's try before making decision.
用虛擬金錢去買管理權，真接造成的混亂，可以想像一下，
chaos can be controlled by my button. Also, I somehow agree so I have raised for the money spend for the tools.
有會員發表一篇違規內容如尋歡鱔稿明賣廣告的文章，跟住使用置頂卡去置頂，本來版主就應該亳不猷疑去删除，但行駛置頂卡，就等同大版主認可，試問版主又應怎樣處理?向大版主你投訴，等你回來處理又要多久?
並不是大版主要推行甚麼新規定新玩法都要版主們同意，但總該向版主們講解一下，遇有甚麽情況發生應該怎樣處理，有些明確一點的指引，版主們才可配合你。
xocat: pls follow our board rules. I think it is clear enough. If ads, move it or ban him/her no matter it is upper or lower. any moderators can ban ads posting...
PS :
如果無會員詢問道具卡的事，會有幾多個版主知道有道具卡的存在? [/quote]
arararchchch 2008-7-13 22:46
適當使用道具係好事
畢竟,道具都可以係犯罪工具.
只要[color=red]唔好濫用[/color]同埋增加[color=red]購買上限[/color]就應該冇問題...
Suggestions only