DrTea 2008-8-14 01:00
樂此不疲 (轉貼)
D台又一出名之作, 我地更要引以為警戒...
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[font=新細明體][size=10pt][size=4][color=#000000][font=新細明體][size=10pt][font=新細明體][size=10pt][size=4]曾提及過，有些港人為了熱鬧，會在網上找些志同道合的朋友一同北上玩樂，當中有些因為愈搞愈有經驗，所以索性以此來賺外快，利用自己的關係網來組團北上玩樂，每次向參加者收取團費，扣除玩樂開支後，自己就食差價。[/size] [/size][/font][/size][/font][/color][/size][/size][/font]
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[font=新細明體][size=10pt][size=4]起初，做搞手的都並非為賺錢，但既然有利可圖，自然吸引到不少人加入搞玩樂團。而對於一班玩家來說，其實或多或少都知道搞手會有錢賺，但只要搞手安排妥當同好玩，班玩家亦不會介意給多一百、幾十元，總好過自己人生路不熟，或者小貓三四隻玩得不夠盡興。不過，涉及到金錢利益的，始終難免會有糾紛，最近就有玩家指摘有個搞手食水太深，於是群起杯葛。話說這位搞手最近接連在東莞搞了幾次玩樂團，團費包卡拉OK酒水同酒店房租，團費則要六百元人民幣，但事後有玩家投訴，花費六百元，去玩的是當地一間普通的K場，囡囡質素差之餘，更只可以飲紅酒和啤酒，想叫支黑牌都被拒絕。租住的酒店更加有問題，環境差，又有公安查房。於是，各方都話這位搞手一心求財，搶錢搶得太過分。 [/size][/size][/font][/size][/font][/color][/size][/font]
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[font=新細明體][size=10pt][size=4]對於這件事，由於我不在場，無謂評論太多，但是相信有去東莞唱K的，對於場中消費應該心中有數，略知一二。我就覺得，六百元連酒店房不算昂貴，但是當酒店房租收取二百元，用四百元一位飲紅酒同啤酒，又似乎真是可以飲到嘔，再加上搞手或多或少應該在間K場可以拿到點折頭，計落又難免被人誤會。 再者，當其他搞手同樣在東莞搞類似玩樂團，而團費平接近一半，玩家亦少有投訴時，相信這位被針對的搞手就算並非存心詐財，都肯定是經驗不足了。[/size][size=4][img=26,13]file:///C:/DOCUME~1/IVANCH~1/LOCALS~1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image001.gif[/img]
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[[i] 本帖最後由 DrTea 於 2008-8-14 01:08 編輯 [/i]]
glucerna 2008-8-14 08:56
[quote]原帖由 [i]DrTea[/i] 於 2008-8-13 10:00 AM 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5102218&ptid=210760][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
D台又一出名之作, 我地更要引以為警戒...
玩樂團搞手食水深 (太陽 : 13/8/2008 文： 赤月)
曾提及過，有些港人為了熱鬧，會在網上找些志同道合的朋友一同北上玩樂，當中有些因為愈搞愈有經驗，所以索性以此來 ... [/quote]
Bro tea:如果唔係個個飲,好難開黑牌架.......
6xx一支酒,有d送2礶疏打,有d送4礶,但係開晒支酒,
最少都要10礶,每罐28元,條數好襟計架...
如果你一個人對半支,你有賺啦....
icheng609 2008-8-14 09:14
其实鳼蟲 friends 咁多， 資訊咁发達， 加上交通咁方便， 自己組團基本上不存在任何困難， 而且因為是自己友， 玩得更開心！
def_lo 2008-8-14 13:05
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其實換轉另一角度睇，如果大家事前奉行自由經濟市場主義，明買明賣，講清講楚收費所包括嘅內容，咁都係姜太公釣魚－願者上釣啫！！
7-siu 2008-8-14 13:14
做了很多次搞手，當然是自己也平分一份那種。做搞手也只是賺了一份開心和友誼！不過，唔做中，唔做保，唔做媒人三代好！搞手的確很難做。有些人不大飲，有些是志在劉齡。有些兄弟不大開聲，好的不好的，也收埋在心，有些是倒蛋王，去過這些地方，大支野，認屎認屁！喝了兩杯，大又吊，細又吊！有什麼事，又是搞手去擺平！
最令人心痛的是，有些兄弟，無緣無故，無聲無跡，有什麼事又不明言，都不知自己做了什麼事，好似自己有AIDS一樣，還在其他兄弟中說自己的背後話！
為什麼有不滿，不當面說！自問管接管送，計數只有自己出大份，也不會要兄弟多出一點錢！心淡！
icheng609 2008-8-14 14:44
[quote]原帖由 [i]7-siu[/i] 於 2008-8-14 13:14 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5104565&ptid=210760][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
做了很多次搞手，當然是自己也平分一份那種。做搞手也只是賺了一份開心和友誼！不過，唔做中，唔做保，唔做媒人三代好！搞手的確很難做。有些人不大飲，有些是志在劉齡。有些兄弟不大開聲，好的不好的，也收埋在心， ... [/quote]
七兄勞心勞力， 处事磊落大方， 才贏得今日的友誼、 地位和尊重！
DrTea 2008-8-14 17:46
[quote]原帖由 [i]7-siu[/i] 於 2008-8-14 13:14 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5104565&ptid=210760][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
最令人心痛的是，有些兄弟，無緣無故，無聲無跡，有什麼事又不明言，都不知自己做了什麼事，好似自己有AIDS一樣，還在其他兄弟中說自己的背後話！ ... [/quote]
Bro 7-siu, those're passer-by. Just forget it and be Happy too !!!
別生氣：[b]用別人的錯誤來懲罰自己，太不像話兒！[/b]
simonkok 2008-8-14 18:39
[quote]原帖由 [i]def_lo[/i] 於 2008-8-14 13:05 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5104515&ptid=210760][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
其實換轉另一角度睇，如果大家事前奉行自由經濟市場主義，明買明賣，講清講楚收費所包括嘅內容，咁都係姜太公釣魚－願者上釣啫！！ [/quote]
唔知你記唔記得。。我有次同你講過。。我以前都時常幫朋友做召集人。。。
完全唔係為錢，祗為朋友一齊開心。。（事實上我成日都要貼大份！！）。。。
但結果係。。攪到大家都唔開心。:( 。。而家D人同我講攪團我都灑手。。:nono: 。
Haidada 2008-8-14 23:57
[quote]原帖由 [i]7-siu[/i] 於 2008-8-14 13:14 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5104565&ptid=210760][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
做了很多次搞手，當然是自己也平分一份那種。做搞手也只是賺了一份開心和友誼！不過，唔做中，唔做保，唔做媒人三代好！搞手的確很難做。有些人不大飲，有些是志在劉齡。有些兄弟不大開聲，好的不好的，也收埋在心， ... [/quote]
人各有取舍。。也不必感慨。。也不一定是誰對誰錯了。。
DrTea 2008-8-14 23:59
[quote]原帖由 [i]Haidada[/i] 於 2008-8-14 23:57 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5108015&ptid=210760][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
人各有取舍。。也不必感慨。。也不一定是誰對誰錯了。。 [/quote]
Welcome back ! Long long trip this time !
colorbhk 2008-8-15 00:24
[quote]原帖由 [i]7-siu[/i] 於 2008-8-14 13:14 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5104565&ptid=210760][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
做了很多次搞手，當然是自己也平分一份那種。做搞手也只是賺了一份開心和友誼！不過，唔做中，唔做保，唔做媒人三代好！搞手的確很難做。有些人不大飲，有些是志在劉齡。有些兄弟不大開聲，好的不好的，也收埋在心， ... [/quote]
點都好, 跟你出嚟玩過班兄弟, 我想個個都十二分尊重你老哥, 起碼細佬我同我細佬都感激你上次的照顧 :beer: :beer:
Haidada 2008-8-15 00:47
[quote]原帖由 [i]DrTea[/i] 於 2008-8-14 23:59 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5108027&ptid=210760][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Welcome back ! Long long trip this time ! [/quote]
Come back only today for one day, going back to SH tomorrow...
glucerna 2008-8-15 00:50
[quote]原帖由 [i]7-siu[/i] 於 2008-8-13 10:14 PM 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5104565&ptid=210760][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
做了很多次搞手，當然是自己也平分一份那種。做搞手也只是賺了一份開心和友誼！不過，唔做中，唔做保，唔做媒人三代好！搞手的確很難做。有些人不大飲，有些是志在劉齡。有些兄弟不大開聲，好的不好的，也收埋在心， ... [/quote]
默默耕耘,不問收獲,佩服,佩服....:bow::bow:
天使之施 2008-8-15 01:13
每個人都鐘意吾同方式,有人鐘意一大班人一齊玩,有人鍾意獨漂獨賭,自己選擇咗就吾好嘈,冇人迫你。
除咗日常社交,我一向鍾意獨漂獨賭,自己想點就點,又吾怕自己人爭女,樂得自由。
7-siu 2008-8-15 18:00
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I don't mind who is right and who is wrong, may be I am the wrong one. However, why not face to face and talk it off ?
jjchan218 2008-8-15 18:14
七少,
人多自然意見多，就算全部喺friends，你都好難兼顧，做搞手是件吃力不討好的工作！
DrTea 2008-8-15 22:22
[quote]原帖由 [i]7-siu[/i] 於 2008-8-15 18:00 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5112137&ptid=210760][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
I don't mind who is right and who is wrong, may be I am the wrong one. However, why not face to face and talk it off ? [/quote]
Bro 7-siu, our mind was out-dated ! I heard this sentence "[b]你有你感受, 我有我享受[/b]" last year and then I think it's a high time to QUIT.
7-siu 2008-8-17 00:52
I never expect to have any return in money or status, but I expect to have some friendship.
colorbhk 2008-8-17 01:23
[quote]原帖由 [i]7-siu[/i] 於 2008-8-17 00:52 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5120183&ptid=210760][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
I never expect to have any return in money or status, but I expect to have some friendship. [/quote]
more than that, you have my respect.:soldier: :soldier: :soldier:
7-siu 2008-8-18 14:25
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Thank you! Colorbhk Ching. After I come back from my oversea trip by mid-Sept, we go for sonme fun ?
par3 2008-8-18 16:06
[quote]原帖由 [i]7-siu[/i] 於 2008-8-14 13:14 發表 [url=http://59.188.23.228/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5104565&ptid=210760][img]http://59.188.23.228/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
還在其他兄弟中說自己的背後話 [/quote]
我在背後說七少真係好好人同好鬼淫;P
凡事豈能盡如人意,但求無愧於心咯.嫖都講運o既.係咪
denny2000 2008-8-18 17:16
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搞手的確很難做..
I agree with 7-siu. I had one occasion when I organized a party for a group of firends. 2 hrs gone and one of my "friends" told me that he had to leave early. I said, ok , no problem. I will let him know the total bill and split equally. He said no la, since he did not stay for the whole night in K, he shoud pay less. I fainted. I told him, paid what you thought was right and I would pay for him the difference of the equal split. I never invite this guy again.. :oh:
[[i] 本帖最後由 denny2000 於 2008-8-18 17:19 編輯 [/i]]
7-siu 2008-8-18 17:28
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這些早退又要求少付費的師兄真的是沒有見過世面！但我寧願遇到這些人，因為他小了的錢，我補也無所謂，因為是一次過。但無聲無息地失踪，又在背後說三道四才是我最不喜歡的！
denny2000 2008-8-18 18:40
[quote]原帖由 [i]7-siu[/i] 於 2008-8-18 17:28 發表 [url=http://59.188.23.228/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5129001&ptid=210760][img]http://59.188.23.228/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
這些早退又要求少付費的師兄真的是沒有見過世面！但我寧願遇到這些人，因為他小了的錢，我補也無所謂，因為是一次過。但無聲無息地失踪，又在背後說三道四才是我最不喜歡的！ [/quote]
I am lucky not to have those friends, or I am not aware that they say negative things behind me! In fact, I do not even want them to say postiive things behind me... Try to be low key.. safety is a key issue..
colorbhk 2008-8-18 21:33
[quote]原帖由 [i]7-siu[/i] 於 2008-8-18 14:25 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5128161&ptid=210760][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Thank you! Colorbhk Ching. After I come back from my oversea trip by mid-Sept, we go for sonme fun ? [/quote]
by the very-end of the month, should be OK:applause: :applause:
colorbhk 2008-8-18 21:40
[quote]原帖由 [i]7-siu[/i] 於 2008-8-18 17:28 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5129001&ptid=210760][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
這些早退又要求少付費的師兄真的是沒有見過世面！但我寧願遇到這些人，因為他小了的錢，我補也無所謂，因為是一次過。但無聲無息地失踪，又在背後說三道四才是我最不喜歡的！ [/quote]
多極, 都係差果一百幾十, 洗唔洗要俾少d, 玩失蹤, 如果有d咁樣朋友, 最好叫佢酒水自備, 唔好入房同叫佢自己坐廳 :butwiggle: :butwiggle: :butwiggle:
DrTea 2008-8-18 23:14
[quote]原帖由 [i]colorbhk[/i] 於 2008-8-18 21:33 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5130104&ptid=210760][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
by the very-end of the month, should be OK:applause: :applause: [/quote]
I don't think you're OK ! You haven't show-up for a year la !
iammrso 2008-8-18 23:35
七少唔係有三個飯盒咩? ;P ;P
仲有咁多時間及精力出嚟威? :verygood: :verygood:
colorbhk 2008-8-19 00:05
[quote]原帖由 [i]DrTea[/i] 於 2008-8-18 23:14 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5130738&ptid=210760][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
I don't think you're OK ! You haven't show-up for a year la ! [/quote]
half year ended, may be able to get a weekend off :lol :lol
by the way, it is evenly important to meet some OLD Friends:blowme: :blowme:
[[i] 本帖最後由 colorbhk 於 2008-8-19 00:06 編輯 [/i]]
DrTea 2008-8-19 00:05
[quote]原帖由 [i]iammrso[/i] 於 2008-8-18 23:35 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5130912&ptid=210760][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
七少唔係有三個飯盒咩? ;P ;P 仲有咁多時間及精力出嚟威? :verygood: :verygood: [/quote]
Bro 7-siu not only our CEO but also our Hero in playgroup with MM too !
glucerna 2008-8-19 00:52
[quote]原帖由 [i]DrTea[/i] 於 2008-8-18 09:05 AM 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5131127&ptid=210760][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Bro 7-siu not only our CEO but also our Hero in playgroup with MM too ! [/quote]
唔好擦鞋,why are u not show up in long time,and now talk 3 talk 4....
colorbhk 2008-8-19 06:20
[quote]原帖由 [i]glucerna[/i] 於 2008-8-19 00:52 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5131503&ptid=210760][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
唔好擦鞋,why are u not show up in long time,and now talk 3 talk 4.... [/quote]
hahaha, it seems you are nothing better than me:lol :lol :lol
7-siu 2008-8-19 11:58
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老二在廣州，吃得魚趐多都要食下碗仔趐啦！老三在重慶，九月才來。老四剛剛這星期日回了鄭州。今個星期大海從上海回來。剛好和他洗塵！;P
過去的幾個月，有老二和老四的一皇二后。吃得我飽飽！也省了很多錢，今個星期都要去花點錢的了！:lol
7-siu 2008-8-19 12:00
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Should it be time, we Old Ghosts organise a party for ourselves ?
DrTea 2008-8-19 13:17
[quote]原帖由 [i]7-siu[/i] 於 2008-8-19 12:00 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5133940&ptid=210760][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Should it be time, we Old Ghosts organise a party for ourselves ? [/quote]
Bro 7-siu, count me one IF you think I'm one of your Old Ghosts !
7-siu 2008-8-19 14:09
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You are of course 1 of the oldest ! Ha Ha!
icheng609 2008-8-19 14:41
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Should it be time, we Old Ghosts organise a party for ourselves ? [/quote]
I will be more than willing to join if I am qualified and time allows.
Retav 2008-8-19 14:45
If I am allowed, I wish I could be the old ghost too...
Btw... if our ON project success, I will definitely ask 7-siu to be our VIP guest...
icheng609 2008-8-19 14:56
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If I am allowed, I wish I could be the old ghost too...
Btw... if our ON project success, I will definitely ask 7-siu to be our VIP guest... [/quote]
I'll be present to share the fun, too! Let me know earlier to erect the scaffolding.
Retav 2008-8-19 14:57
Still planning in progress... coz I am so sorry to all brothers I have to arrange after the confirmation of my Queen back-to-home plan
icheng609 2008-8-19 14:59
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Still planning in progress... coz I am so sorry to all brothers I have to arrange after the confirmation of my Queen back-to-home plan [/quote]
I understand you are the key member of the organising committee.......... other than the date, what about the other details such as the venue, form of activities..........etc., all fixed?
def_lo 2008-8-19 15:13
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He has only one sort of activity in mind, Yan-K and ON!! Sorry, froggie, not for you!!
I really want to have chance to join the oldest ghosts for wild. It must be great!!
Retav 2008-8-19 15:15
Um... if you wanna play wild... then must be the Factory... but need to ask CEO if the quality is still ok...
Or... I will suggestion the ColorLion, Richman, or BoatClub...
form of activities??? sing, dance, drink, cards, hands, balls, naked, fxxk... you name it, we could have it...
Retav 2008-8-19 15:17
Yes.. ON... main objective!!
so.. quality of MM is the most important... and it must be 2 of them... i mean... i will grab 2 MM for ON... I really want to enjoy the night as 7-siu enjoy it for almost everynight...
icheng609 2008-8-19 15:17
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Um... if you wanna play wild... then must be the Factory... but need to ask CEO if the quality is still ok...
Or... I will suggestion the ColorLion, Richman, or BoatClub...
form of activities?? ... [/quote]
Anything good for a "Cinderalla Man" like froggie?
Retav 2008-8-19 15:28
YES!!!!
One good suggestion... come with us... drink with us, pick a girl like us.. the fuck her once... then paid as ON price.. then leave the MM to me and I will take care for you till the next morning... don't worry...
denny2000 2008-8-19 15:45
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YES!!!!
One good suggestion... come with us... drink with us, pick a girl like us.. the fuck her once... then paid as ON price.. then leave the MM to me and I will take care for you till the next m ... [/quote]
haha, it is the price of not going ON. in fact, you forget to ask froggie to take a share of hte hotel room fee!!
Froggie, in fact, many of the Ks, including factory, have cannon room for short rental (1 hr, is it enough?) for 1Q. Imagine that you start your activity there at 630pm (factory only), finish selection at 7pm, play for 2 hrs at K, do your exercise for 1 hr at canoon room, you could still leave at 10pm, taking a taxi back to HG (last 7-van leaves at 9pm). You could still talk proudly to your tiger, saying that the meal is very full and your reunion with old friends is wonderful. Of course,do not forget to dry your hair...
Your brothers will feel grateful if you pay the ON fee and bring back the girl to the girl while you are leaving. . haha.. easy man..
7-siu 2008-8-19 15:48
Its only been 1 hour or so I gone for work since my last logged on, it become so busy here.
I would be away for Canada next week and be back and be available not until end of Sept, probably early weekend of October.
Since I would be away for the time being, could any "Old Ghost" brother organise this party ?
icheng609 2008-8-19 15:49
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haha, it is the price of not going ON. in fact, you forget to ask froggie to take a share of hte hotel room fee!!
Froggie, in fact, many of the Ks, including factory, have cannon room for sho ... [/quote]
Thanks, Denny! That's exactly what in my mind. But instead of getting a girl for my own, I just intend to 抽水 all round and raid on the girl which looks good to me any time at random. Brothers will pay her/them off in next morning, right?
denny2000 2008-8-19 15:57
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But instead of getting a girl for my own, I just intend to 抽水 all round and raid on the girl which looks good to me any time at random. Brothers will pay her/them off in next morning, right?
You coudl do that but I am sure you will not be welcome next time by your JM brothers :lol