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點解會有結石奶粉之我見

[color=blue]呢單嘢源頭係飼料，係俾牛食飼料，大陸可能冇清析講飼料唔可以加任何化學品，牛乳從食有化學品牛飼料擠出來，食同樣飼料，有d牛有事，有d牛冇事，中央拉飼料商，牛農，或賣牛奶的人；其實最大問題是免檢。
大陸好多食品都存在潛在的問題，只係食的份量未即時反映，但牛乳係BB主要食糧，BB日食夜食，少少問題都後果嚴重，以前大陸毒粉絲，毒鰻魚，影響好少，因為唔會日日食幾條鰻魚。
[[i] 本帖最後由 ivan99 於 2008-9-19 11:33 [/i]]發表[/color]
我於昨日曾發表上述之言論，現有少少補充，由於源頭係飼料，所有食呢d飼料之牛體內都可能存有三聚氰安，國內牛奶生產商派人去養牛農收集牛奶，只要那隻牛有事，無論係三鹿，蒙牛、伊利、都中招。由於不是隻隻牛有事，可能只係少部份，所以係有d批次有事，有d批次冇事；如果大陸要改善，一定要從養牛同收集牛奶兩方面重新檢討流程。

大陸今次處理結石奶粉事件，好似美國對斯文叠碼仔(投資銀行)，倒瀉蘿蟹，四處火頭，有排攪。

[quote]原帖由 [i]ivan99[/i] 於 2008-9-20 09:47 發表 [url=http://59.188.23.229/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5298108&ptid=216944][img]http://59.188.23.229/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
呢單嘢源頭係飼料，係俾牛食飼料，大陸可能冇清析講飼料唔可以加任何化學品，牛乳從食有化學品牛飼料擠出來，食同樣飼料，有d牛有事，有d牛冇事，中央拉飼料商，牛農，或賣牛奶的人；其實最大問題是免檢。
大 ... [/quote]

果班賣"蛋白精"既飼料商,
又唔係乜野專業人士,
佢地都未必知因為貪圖小利而賣呢d"蛋白精",
會得出而家呢個嚴重後果,
"免檢"呢個名牌產品既優待,
唔好好監管的話就真係好有問題,
尤其係食品製造呢個行業.

:L

[quote]原帖由 [i]熊魔鬼.[/i] 於 2008-9-20 10:29 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5298262&ptid=216944][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


果班賣"蛋白精"既飼料商,
又唔係乜野專業人士,
佢地都未必知因為貪圖小利而賣呢d"蛋白精",
會得出而家呢個嚴重後果,
"免檢"呢個名牌產品既優待,
唔好好監管的話就真係好有問題,
尤其係食品製造呢個行業.
... [/quote]
所以，大陸第一時間，已取消食品免檢。

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[quote]原帖由 [i]至尊豪庭9[/i] 於 2008-9-20 20:27 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5300536&ptid=216944][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

你識條能咩!人吹你又吹埋一份!!:boxing: [/quote]

牛既飼料係植物, 一於賴果的植物在種植時被污染啦, 攪大的, 話受美國間諜污染囉. :lol

[quote]原帖由 [i]FXO[/i] 於 2008-9-21 12:15 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5303662&ptid=216944][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


牛既飼料係植物, 一於賴果的植物在種植時被污染啦, 攪大的, 話受美國間諜污染囉. :lol [/quote]

Melamine will digest and decompose inside a cow to produce melamide, NH4+ ions and cyanuric acid.
Melamine crystals cannot cycle in animals.
So if a cow fed with melamine, it will decompose it ( at its best ) to excrete the decomposed melamine as urea, the high concentration of urea forms kidney stones in smaller animals ( including human ), no melamine will get out of the animal in sweat or milk. :nono:

吾使問呀貴, 班維園呀伯一定會話:  毒奶粉肯定是反共仇中份子聯結境外民主勢力破壞中國奶類市場的「陰謀」. :oh:

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唔係餵三聚氰安比乳牛食呀!你有沒有睇報紙架!
係直接加佢入牛奶，再加入水，使奶水增多，賣多啲錢。

[quote]原帖由 [i]無神論狂徒[/i] 於 2008-9-21 19:22 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5305775&ptid=216944][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
唔係餵三聚氰安比乳牛食呀!你有沒有睇報紙架!
[color=red][b]係直接[/b][/color]加佢入牛奶，再加入水，使奶水增多，賣多啲錢。 [/quote]

[color=indigo]做法由如陳水扁家族的直接 ... :jaw: [/color]

[quote]原帖由 [i]無神論狂徒[/i] 於 2008-9-21 19:22 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5305775&ptid=216944][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
唔係餵三聚氰安比乳牛食呀!你有沒有睇報紙架!
係直接加佢入牛奶，再加入水，使奶水增多，賣多啲錢。 [/quote]
係唔係大紀元，或生果報。

[quote]原帖由 [i]至尊豪庭9[/i] 於 2008-9-20 20:27 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5300536&ptid=216944][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

你識條能咩!人吹你又吹埋一份!!:boxing: [/quote]
先撩者賤，前人作孽後人受，你屋企有你真係家門不幸。

國家質檢局長李長江下台
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(綜合報道)
([url=]星島日報
[/url]報道)內地「毒奶粉事件」曝光十多天後，國家品質監督檢驗檢疫總局局長李長江因「監管缺失」，昨日正式引咎辭職，由國務院副秘書長王勇接任；三鹿集團所在地河北石家莊，市委書記吳顯國也因「處置不力」、「未及時上報」而被撤職。目前，全國因食用問題奶粉患腎結石的兒童，增至近五萬三千人。
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國家免檢制度令國家質檢局長李長江下台，遲d可能三鹿董事槍決。

[quote]原帖由 [i]無神論狂徒[/i] 於 2008-9-21 19:22 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5305775&ptid=216944][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
唔係餵三聚氰安比乳牛食呀!你有沒有睇報紙架!
係直接加佢入牛奶，再加入水，使奶水增多，賣多啲錢。 [/quote]

It is almost impossible that farmers add melamine themselves.
Melamine is only slightly soluble.
Adding that much melamine in liquid milk requires large amount of water.
The amount of water will fement the milk.
Even if the water is germ free ( an "expensive" boiling process), that large amount of water will affect the colour and viscosity of the milk.
The ratio of fat and minerals in milk will also be reduced, this simply won't pass any visual or IQC test.

Rather it is a very simple process to add melamine powder in powder milk (in the production line).

Another postulation is that Sanluk designed a cheaper milk formula mixture with soy protein powder.
However, they purchased sub-standard powder and mixed with their milk powder causing this havoc.
But since Sanluk insisted milk farmers are to be blame and not naming soy protein provider, this postulation propabaly not the real culprit.

[quote]原帖由 [i]Rubber[/i] 於 2008-9-23 11:15 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=5314274&ptid=216944][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


It is almost impossible that farmers add melamine themselves.
Melamine is only slightly soluble.
Adding that much melamine in liquid milk requires large amount of water.
The amount of water wil ... [/quote]

中央話係就係, 話唔係就唔係, 有權就有知識嘛. :)

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[[i] 本帖最後由 breatharian 於 2008-9-23 14:57 編輯 [/i]]

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