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[quote]原帖由 [i]SIG[/i] 於 2006-10-10 04:31 發表
Glock 26, 9X19mm. :applause: [/quote]


Nice share:givemefive::verygood:

I always wonder why people from HK really, really like Glock firearm? :verygood:

[IMG]http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c209/hkfooey/Pistol/glock.jpg[/IMG] Is it just me or me being bias?? :saujai:

No right or wrong - just my thoughts (and I don't want to piss off any Glock fans here neither)!! :bow:

[[i] 本帖最後由 aloharicnsa 於 2006-10-14 06:27 AM 編輯 [/i]]

[color=olive]Brother SIG:博士,在下又有事情去麻煩你喇;P。  你有沒有[手槍密林357]的照片:wondering:?  但在下若沒弄錯,:[密林]好似只是一子彈的名稱:afraid:。   [/color]

[[i] 本帖最後由 Das Reich 於 2006-10-14 11:36 PM 編輯 [/i]]

[quote]原帖由 [i]Das Reich[/i] 於 2006-10-14 11:16 PM 發表
Brother SIG:博士,在下又有事情去麻煩你喇;P。  你有沒有的照片:wondering:?  [/quote]
Das Reich 大哥，bull 翁卡痴！:bow:;P

以前係舊 forum 度曾經貼過一堆 Magnum 左輪相，由於小弟唔係 revolver fans，所以貼完之後就 delete 晒喇，家下貼住幾張 .38 Special 左輪俾你欣賞住先:(，第日見到有其他Magnum 左輪相再貼過。:bow:

Smith & Wesson M642, .38 Special ;P

[quote]原帖由 [i]Das Reich[/i] 於 2006-10-14 11:16 PM 發表
但在下若沒弄錯,:好似只是一子彈的名稱:afraid:。    [/quote]
大哥你講得冇錯，密林 (Magnum) 係一種子彈名稱，從手槍到步槍到散彈槍子彈，Magnum 有多種不同口徑，以手槍為例，就有 .22，.32，.357，9mm，.41，.44，.45，etc. 多種，80年代以色列 IMI 廠就生產左一系列能夠發射 .357，.41， .44， .50 左輪 Magnum 口徑o既自動手槍，型號為 Desert Eagle。

仲有，著名電影 《辣手神探奪命槍 Dirty Harry》 主角奇連伊士活所用就正係 Smith & Wesson M29 .44 Magnum 左輪喇。:soldier::soldier::soldier:

題外話，據講當年拍攝時候因為 .44 Magnum 左輪缺貨，所以其實用黎拍攝個支係 .41 Magnum 而並非 .44 Magnum;P，但銀幕上睇唔出。:applause:

以色列 IMI Desert Eagle

[[i] 本帖最後由 SIG 於 2006-10-19 05:18 AM 編輯 [/i]]

Wilson KZ45, .45ACP

Les Baer Thunder Ranch Special, .45ACP

SIG GSR pistol, .45ACP:soldier::soldier:

SIG Sauer P226X-Six, 9X19mm

SIG Sauer P220 Stainless, .45ACP

SIG Sauer P220ST, .45ACP :soldier:

SIG Sauer P226ST, 9X19mm :soldier::soldier:

[color=olive]Brother SIG:謝謝博士的資料和相片,有勞、有勞:bow:。  題外話,在下多年前燒過 S & W 的 .38 短管,印象中鎗柄是長些和每次要在 shoot 之前,先要拉下撞針:wondering:。  不過在下只能肯定那枝是 S & W 短管,不肯定它的口徑/型號:L:Q:$。[/color]

[[i] 本帖最後由 Das Reich 於 2006-10-19 05:12 PM 編輯 [/i]]

[color=olive]Brother SIG:博士,原來那友仔想要"孟波"那碌的照片;P。 "孟波"好似是用左輪,是否就是 .44 Magnum 左輪:wondering:?  先謝謝博士 你喇:D。[/color]

[quote]原帖由 [i]Das Reich[/i] 於 2006-10-20 01:30 發表
Brother SIG:博士,原來那友仔想要"孟波"那碌的照片;P。 "孟波"好似是用左輪,是否就是 .44 Magnum 左輪:wondering:?  先謝謝博士 你喇:D。 [/quote]

孟波是用 S&W Magnum 357

[color=olive]Brother Makeucum:謝謝你的回覆和資料:D。[/color]

[quote]原帖由 [i]Das Reich[/i] 於 2006-10-20 01:30 AM 發表
Brother SIG:博士,原來那友仔想要"孟波"那碌的照片;P。 "孟波"好似是用左輪,是否就是 .44 Magnum 左輪:wondering:?  先謝謝博士 你喇:D。 [/quote]
Das Reich 大哥，孟波用個支係 Colt Python 4寸長槍管 .357 Magnum 口徑左輪。:soldier:

呢支槍另有 2寸， 4寸及 6寸長槍管型號。自 1955年開始生產到 2005年停產，一直係支貴價左輪，80年代初期 Smith & Wesson 推出左 M586/M686，同樣口徑，同 Colt Python 一樣有條鋼o既 underlug 於槍管底下，加大重量黎減少發射 Magnum 子彈時所產生o既強大後座力同上揚力，係 Python 最大競爭對手。

由於 Colt Python 設計落後加上價錢係 Smith & Wesson M586/M686 兩倍有多:jaw:，缺乏市場，終於去年正宣佈停產。:byebye::byebye:

孟波個老友 “海怪” 用o既係呢種，Smith & Wesson 口徑 .44 Magnum M29 左輪，但係 6.5寸長槍管，唔係相中呢支 4寸長。:soldier:

Heckler & Koch P2000 Compact, 口徑 .357SIG:soldier:

Heckler & Koch P2000, 口徑 9X19mm :D

Heckler & Koch P2000 Compact, 口徑 .357SIG:soldier:

Kimber compact 1911, 口徑 .45ACP :D

SIG Sauer P226 X5 Competition， 口徑 9X19mm :D

SIGARMS GSR pistol with ITI M6 Tactical Light/Laser, 口徑 .45ACP :soldier:

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可惜我一支都无啊,而且又唔合法!
真系爱无可爱啊!

Sorry guys – had been away for awhile – checking the site once in a while but never have time to post – sorry la. :oh:


[IMG]http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c209/hkfooey/Pistol/2006Beretta92FSB.jpg[/IMG]


This is my first semi-auto that I purchased a while ago - Beretta 92 Brigadier – differences from the basic 92FS - heavier slide and 1 mm wider (or in this case – a slightly heavier pistol).

In US, the Beretta 92 FS was well-known from Lethal Weapon movies (Mel Gibson) and Die-Hard (Bruce Willis). Everyone got to have it!  :soldier:

Beretta pistol used to be Italian made – but now are US. 92FS was used in US military during the 80s, as well as some police department. Nice thing on the 92FS design is that you can have 1 (as of 1 ammo) in the chamber but the firing pin is block (as safety) – it would decrease the chance of accidental discharge (not like Glock). :blowme: It is a double/single action (DA/SA) – what it means it that the first pull of trigger is DA whereas afterwards is all SA.

I like the 92 (apart from the movie-factor) because of its size. It is a “big” gun for a 9mm – which many people complain on it. But I like it (and my hands are XL) – that’s all I care. :P

Upgrade done on this - apart from the grip, I have installed a night site ghost ring (similar to my Springfield 1911) and a 3.5 lb trigger pull. Nothing special on this pistol – but a work-horse (and will probably last forever!). :verygood:



PS – I would love to get my hands on a 6” Colt Python too…but because of the “collector” value – it is almost impossible to get one in US (a good condition one will be over USD $1.5K+) :jaw:

[color=olive]Brother SIG:不好意思,在下今天(31 oct)才到香港:L。  謝謝你的資料與圖片:D。  在下又再重俠聖喇;P。     [/color]

我都係鐘意

[quote]原帖由 [i]Das Reich[/i] 於 2006-10-31 11:58 PM 發表
Brother SIG:不好意思,在下今天(31 oct)才到香港:L。  謝謝你的資料與圖片:D。  在下又再重俠聖喇;P。      [/quote]
大哥，我都知道閣下去北上採靈G嫁啦∼∼;P;P:lol:victory:

[quote]原帖由 [i]aloharicnsa[/i] 於 2006-10-31 01:15 AM 發表
I would love to get my hands on a 6” Colt Python too…but because of the “collector” value – it is almost impossible to get one in US (a good condition one will be over USD $1.5K+) [/quote]
Oh really?!!! Lucky we can still buy the Colt Python in HK for about 8K HK Dollar, but never mind, I'm not a Python fans and the only revolver I like is the Smith & Wesson M625, caliber .45ACP with a 5" barrel.

[quote]原帖由 [i]aloharicnsa[/i] 於 2006-10-31 01:15 AM 發表
This is my first semi-auto that I purchased a while ago - Beretta 92 Brigadier – differences from the basic 92FS - heavier slide and 1 mm wider (or in this case – a slightly heavier pistol).

In US, the Beretta 92 FS was well-known from Lethal Weapon movies (Mel Gibson) and Die-Hard (Bruce Willis). Everyone got to have it! [/quote]
Though I like the movie “Lethal Weapon” and “Die Hard” so much, the Beretta 92F (or 92FS) has never became my cup of tea.

Certainly, having a pistol with the Brigadier thicker slide I could feel safer and better, I never like any 92 series pistol except one, the Elite IA which was released in 2003.:D

In fact, I almost bought one 2 years ago but latter on change my mind and go ahead to get my lovely dream gun, the SIG Sauer P226!:verygood:

Well, talking about the 92 series, I strongly suggest any owner of these weapons should get at least one or more of the “locking block” for spare, I’ve saw several of this part cracked and broken, within 3,000 to 6,000 rounds count.;P;P

[[i] 本帖最後由 SIG 於 2006-11-2 03:49 AM 編輯 [/i]]

[quote]原帖由 [i]aloharicnsa[/i] 於 2006-10-31 01:15 AM 發表
Nice thing on the 92FS design is that you can have 1 (as of 1 ammo) in the chamber but the firing pin is block (as safety) – it would decrease the chance of accidental discharge (not like Glock).[/quote]
I’m not trying to promote any Glock pistol and organize a “Glock Fans Club”, nor I am going to ask people to join the “Anti-Glock Association”.

I have no obligation to hard sell any Glock however Glock has [color=Red]THREE[/color] internal safeties (1) Drop Safety (2) Firing Pin Safety and (3) Trigger Safety, in fact it is much more safer than most of the other firearms design!:verygood::applause:

One must always understand none of the firearms will goes off by itself unless stupid people handle it in a dumb way! One of the Firearms Safety rules did mention: [color=Red]“NEVER PUT YOUR FINGER ONTO THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOU ARE READY TO FIRE!” [/color]:nono::nono::nono:

Some idiot getting too nervous when they hold the gun and pull the trigger at the wrong time, and then blame the firearms design is quite unfair!:saujai::saujai::saujai:

I have a lot of videos showing shooters (all are stupid Kwai-lo) getting [color=Red]*Accidental Discharge*[/color], and every gun seen in the video is [color=Red]NOT[/color] a Glock! It is the shooter’s fault because of [color=Red]“Unsafe Gun Handling”[/color], nothing related to Glock’s design!

[[i] 本帖最後由 SIG 於 2006-11-2 03:58 AM 編輯 [/i]]

It is unnecessary to compare a custom built 1911 pistol with a Glock, as they are pistols which were designed for different purpose. It is just like comparing a Italian Ferrari to a Japanese Honda!  

Certainly I knew my peak performance will be around 2% higher if I use my Wilson Custom 1911 (Hi-cap Para frame) in a match, however I have much more confidence to shoot a Glock to win. Most of the medals and trophies were won by my trusty Glocks, and in recent years, my SIG 226.:victory::lol

Even back in 99, before the “Production Division” had been introduced to IPSC, I lent my friend to shoot my expensive Wilson gun and I use my Glock35, I still beat him on the Standard Division!:victory::victory:

BTW, this afternoon I received the FS magazine form USPSA, the cover is a shooter shooting a GLOCK pistol!:lol:lol

As I always said, it is the shooter’s skill that wins, not the gun! There’s a few words I would like to quote from the US “Front Sight Firearms Training Insitute”::reading:

[color=Blue]Regardless of what the unenlightened in the world may say, remember this my friend---- you are the weapon and your firearms is just a tool. Upon graduation, you will fully understand why Front Sight’s motto is, [size=6]“Any gun will do---- if you will do!"[/size][/color]:applause::applause::clap:

[[i] 本帖最後由 SIG 於 2006-11-2 03:30 AM 編輯 [/i]]

Lastly, I don’t want to piss off any member from the “Anti-Glock Fans Club”, just a picture I want to post in here, lots of broken parts and mostly from expensive custom 1911s. ;P;P:blowme:

SIG Sauer P220, stainless steel, .45ACP :soldier:

[[i] 本帖最後由 SIG 於 2006-11-2 03:48 AM 編輯 [/i]]

Glock 21 and Glock 30, .45ACP

Glock 17 (9X19mm) and Glock 21 (.45ACP) :soldier:

Glock 37, .45GAP :soldier:

[quote]原帖由 [i]SIG[/i] 於 2006-11-2 03:01 AM 發表

...

I have no obligation to hard sell any Glock however Glock has THREE internal safeties (1) Drop Safety (2) Firing Pin Safety and (3) Trigger Safety, in fact it is much more safer than most of the other firearms design!   

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Di Lo Sig:

I don’t agree with you 100%. :reading:

The design of Beretta & Sig (or High Power etc) is “safer” than Glock before of the safety block. Even though if you pull the trigger, it is not going to fire.

So for an untrained people – if he pull the trigger on a Glock, it would fire (intentionally or not) – whereas the Beretta/Sig/HP pistol … nothing happen. :shutup:

Trust me – there are thousands and thousands of argument on numerous forums here discussing the design/safety of Glock and I don’t want to go into another pissing match again. :saujai:

[b][color=Red]Golden rule – never put your finger onto the trigger until you are ready to fire!! [/color][/b]

On the other hand, I am going to pick up my new G34 next week (first plastic gun - wow wow!! :P) and use it on “Production Class”. Will post photos next week (just to show that Mr. 1911 here is not really Anti-Glock la)…  :givemefive:



[IMG]http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c209/hkfooey/Pistol/glock.jpg[/IMG] :beer:

I think I am wrong with Sig - because there is no safety block on the pistol - but there is a safety for the trigger - DA/SA action. :P

顶/

原来係我自己未够分...

[IMG]http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c209/hkfooey/Pistol/Glock/G34-00.jpg[/IMG]

OK – as promised, I got the new Glock 34 on Monday night – spent 30 minutes to break in 300 round FMJ (WWB)… no problem at all.

[IMG]http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c209/hkfooey/Pistol/Glock/G34-04.jpg[/IMG]

I used to “hate” Tupperware gun – just not my cup of tea… but after some playing with G17L + G34 from my friend, I thought that I give it a try (and it is much cheaper than my 1911) – probably use it for production class or unlimited (either or). :soldier:

There are a few differences between G17 & G34:

1. Longer sight radius and barrel
2. The cutout in the slide is for weight reduction
3. Come with a 3.5# connector (instead of 5.5#)
4. Extended slide stop lever
5. Extended magazine release
6. Factory adjustable sights (will change to night site soon)

[IMG]http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c209/hkfooey/Pistol/Glock/G34-05.jpg[/IMG]

So far, I only put on the decal tape (more stickier to handle) and that’s all. :verygood:

Will spend time on the range this weekend to break in more (probably no need for that).

Will post more photos later on with this project – more to be followed. :reading:

[IMG]http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c209/hkfooey/Pistol/Glock/G34-02.jpg[/IMG]

One last thing - the Glock's trigger/safety is still not good for beginner - once again, IMHO :butwiggle:

[[i] 本帖最後由 aloharicnsa 於 2006-11-8 02:01 PM 編輯 [/i]]

[quote]原帖由 [i]aloharicnsa[/i] 於 2006-11-4 03:15 AM 發表
Di Lo Sig:
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大佬，請唔好咁樣叫小弟呀，我只係個 small potato 黎嫁炸！:bow::bow:

Thanks for sharing               :applause:

[quote]原帖由 [i]aloharicnsa[/i] 於 2006-11-4 03:15 AM 發表
So for an untrained people – if he pull the trigger on a Glock, it would fire (intentionally or not) – whereas the Beretta/Sig/HP pistol … nothing happen. [/quote]
You're right I've read those arguments many many times so I want to stop it after this statement. If any of my wording upset you, I apologize and buy you a drink here! :bow::beer:

Aside the accidental discharges which I read from different sources, I had witnessed several AD myself in the past ten years, certainly I’d giving those guys a lovely DQ! :applause:

However, ALL of these cases I’d seen, none of that involved with Glock pistols, it is some pistols with manual safety, or even double action revolver!!!:jaw::jaw:

We can’t say these dumb people are lack of training, most are quality and experience IPSC shooters too! :saujai:

Well, I really want to ask those [color=Red]“well trained”[/color] people which got AD, why they put their fingers onto the trigger during drawing, moving, or worst, re-holstering???:wondering::wondering::wondering:

They should have [color=Red]NO INTENSION [/color]to fire the weapon during that period, right? ;P

In fact, in 1994 a local shooter even shoot his own leg.........:jaw::jaw::afraid:

[[i] 本帖最後由 SIG 於 2006-11-23 10:36 AM 編輯 [/i]]

Hope you enjoy shooting your new purchase Glock buddy! :givemefive:

Pity in HK we have to follow the international IPSC rule so Glock 34 won’t be allowed to use in Production Division.

As a certified Glock armorer, I just give you some suggestion for your new piece:-

1) If you’re going to change for a set of Tritinum sight, please remember [color=Red]DO NOT[/color] buy the Glock factory night sight, it is really crap!!! :saujai:

2) Not sure about the USPSA rule whether you could change internal parts for you Glock 34, I know a way you can reduce the trigger pull weight (though it has already got a 3.5lb connector). :victory:

3) Avoid using ammunition with hard primers (e.g. PMC), sometimes it will cause you a light strike and misfire.

4)[color=Red] NEVER [/color]use lead bullet on Glock as the lead will starts build up in the polygonal rifling within 100 rds.

Lastly, you can change the firing pin spring cup to the "Maritime" spring cup and fire the pistol underwater!:soldier::applause:

I look forward for you Glock 34 test report!:givemefive:

[[i] 本帖最後由 SIG 於 2006-11-23 10:37 AM 編輯 [/i]]

Glock 32, 口徑 .357 SIG :soldier:

Pictures of Glock 17T that I took several years ago, 口徑 9mm FX :soldier:

Glock 17 and Glock 17T :soldier: