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[quote]原帖由 [i]ken1121[/i] 於 2011-1-11 16:59 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13310559&ptid=431][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
根據香港衛生署的資料，部分人在感染愛滋病病毒後二至八星期會產生足夠抗體讓測試呈陽性反應，但有部分人需要較長在時間才能產生足夠的抗體令測試呈陽性反應。這段時間稱之為「空窗期」。一般而言，「空窗期」都會以 ... [/quote]
是部份人呀 , 都是90日較穩妥, 就是不知道180日後還要驗否,

90日是标准嘛。

无计， 卫生处仲用紧第3代既测试， so 拒地一定系recommend 90日， 拒地明知都唔会讲因为90日无得死错人。:loveliness:

一阵打电话去化验所问下个 hiv 4th gen duo test 既程况先：
$$$
when to take
accuracy
time for report....etc.

问完再post上黎， 大家参考下。

[quote]原帖由 [i]ken1121[/i] 於 2011-1-11 17:08 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13310625&ptid=431][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
90日是标准嘛。

无计， 卫生处仲用紧第3代既测试， so 拒地一定系recommend 90日， 拒地明知都唔会讲因为90日无得死错人。:lov ... [/quote]
訽問後在這裡報告一下好啊,知道一下新的知識

上网睇到呢遍野， 我觉得值得分享下。 让等待3个月时间的师兄及将来既师弟relax一下。

曹韵贞，女，1941年出生，美籍华人，著名艾滋病临床病毒实验室专家，现为中国预防医学科学院特邀外籍教授。

她作为中国艾滋病治疗与研究奠基人，培养了全国各个省份艾滋病治疗研究小组的“一把手”。

中国目前最权威的专家曹韵贞教授的讲座摘编，该讲座可从感染途径、空窗期、症状等方面排除大家的恐惧心理。

以下为曹教授讲座内容：
一，关于感染途径：
1，如果用了安全套，就不用担心了，是很安全的。（这说明，戴套了，就不是高危行为——这不是曹教授讲的，是我的理解，但从曹教授的话看，我想我的理解是正确的）
2，如果结束后，发现安全套破了，如果你是男性，也没有被传染的可能。因为在此过程中，一定是男性用力过猛使套破损，要是传染，也是男性传给女性。病毒不可能顺着这个破口，再钻进很小的尿道口。
3，如果没注意，使女性分泌物碰到男性的龟头、肛门等处，也没有被传染的可能。
4，湿吻不会传染。“如果你想吻你的女朋友，大胆地吻！”（曹教授原话）
二，关于空窗期：
　　在被感染一周后，出现急性症状，但是在很短的时候内（不超过一周）就消失了。也就是说从被感染到症状消失总共是两周时间。这就是空窗期2周的依据。说是6周，实际是已经很保守的了。（在随后的回答提问中，有人问：在您看过的上千个病例中，有没有3个月是阴性，然后又转阳了的？曹教授答：没有。）
三，关于症状：
有人问：我的脖子下有黄豆粒大小的淋巴，是症状吗？曹教授答：这样的淋巴没有任何意义。因为，牙痛、嗓子痛都可引起。脚癣还可以引起腹股沟的淋巴大。真正的淋巴大，就像我们看到的照片一样（放幻灯），不用摸就能看见。
曹教授又说：越有症状，持续时间越长，就越不可能是hiv感染。90%以上的感染者都是没有症状的。

第三篇是关于窗口期的，这篇文章说明，4周查抗体阴，已基本可以排除被感染可能。

现在普遍使用的是第三代试剂，窗口期不好解释，可以用以下数字来说明：
病毒感染后，
1周检查出抗体的概率：22.6%
2周检查出抗体的概率：53.775%
3周检查出抗体的概率：84.1%;
4周检查出抗体的概率：98.4%
5周检查出抗体的概率：99.45%
6周检查出抗体的概率：99.994%
7周检查出抗体的概率：99.99986%
8周检查出抗体的概率：99.999999979%

第四篇是本论坛的医生回答提问的，这篇文章说明，退一万步说，就算你“中”了，也不是末日来临，只要你坚持治疗，生还的希望是大大的！

问：前两天看到报道说，中国有望在2005年到2006年研制出hiv疫苗。请问，如果研制出疫苗，是否意味着可以治愈这种可怕的疾病了？还是仅仅说没感染的人以后可以不必害怕了？另外，你们是搞药物研究的，能否预测人类还需要多少年才能彻底治愈这种可怕的疾病。特效药什么时候能面世啊？？？
医生答：估计在5-10年内，彻底治愈艾滋病的药物就会问世，相信不远的将来，艾滋病能够得到完全的控制。
（我的理解：曹教授诊治过上千病例，她说过，潜伏期普遍为7到10年，我认为以她的经验，她的话是可信的。我想7到10间可以使感染者生命再延长若干年的药物会不断问世，这样，只要坚持治疗，保持锻炼增强免疫功能，从感染之日起，存活15年是完全有可能的，那就可以坚持到特效药问世的那一天。关于特效药诞生的时间，我想这里的医生讲5到10年，是可信的，因为第一，这里的医生都是很负责任的，而且是研究这方面药物的专家，不会没根据乱讲。第二，这个病已严重影响全人类的生命质量，所以各国，特别是发达国家都在以空前的力度研制药物。试想，只要衙門足够努力，人类连月球都登得上，何况攻克一种传染病呢。所以，退一万步讲，真“中”了，也不必觉得末日来临。况且，你“中”的可能性真的是非常小的。

ok, I just called this one lab.

They recommended to do this p24 antigen test after two weeks of exposure.
The cost is usual HIV antibody test's fee, which should be same or around the same price to other labs. The p24 antigen test's fee is included in the HIV antibody test's fee.

However, it sucks that, you need a doctor to write you a referral letter in order for them to do this test. So, I am gonna give another call to another lab with this test.

[quote]原帖由 [i]stanleysex[/i] 於 2011-1-10 11:53 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13300657&ptid=431][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


garamon & candy你地而家點呀? 應該無咩問題啦 [/quote] Stanley, 停了出疣約1年半。現只擔心太太，hpv過了2年仍未被清除。

[quote]原帖由 [i]ken1121[/i] 於 2011-1-11 17:28 發表 [url=http://58.64.143.73/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13310744&ptid=431][img]http://58.64.143.73/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
ok, I just called this one lab.

They recommended to do this p24 antigen test after two weeks of exposure.
The cost is usual HIV antibody test's fee, which should be same or around the same price t ... [/quote]

You can ask Dr. Ho to have the reference letter.

[quote]原帖由 [i]bebebaba1234[/i] 於 2011-1-11 18:47 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13311209&ptid=431][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


You can ask Dr. Ho to have the reference letter. [/quote]

mm.... I will either see him this Friday or coming Monday.. I don't know if I should ask about it tho, since he is not recommending a p24 test.

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[quote]原帖由 [i]ken1121[/i] 於 2011-1-11 18:59 發表 [url=http://58.64.143.73/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13311250&ptid=431][img]http://58.64.143.73/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


mm.... I will either see him this Friday or coming Monday.. I don't know if I should ask about it tho, since he is not recommending a p24 test. [/quote]

then why don't you just wait for a while and use the traditional method?

[quote]原帖由 [i]bebebaba1234[/i] 於 2011-1-11 19:19 發表 [url=http://www.xocat.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13311348&ptid=431][img]http://www.xocat.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


then why don't you just wait for a while and use the traditional method? [/quote]

無 既 ﹐  盡 早 確 認 ﹐  盡 早 安 心 。

[quote]原帖由 [i]ken1121[/i] 於 2011-1-11 19:58 發表 [url=http://58.64.143.73/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13311578&ptid=431][img]http://58.64.143.73/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


無 既 ﹐  盡 早 確 認 ﹐  盡 早 安 心 。 [/quote]

都明白既, 等三個月真係好難捱.

[quote]原帖由 [i]bebebaba1234[/i] 於 2011-1-11 21:27 發表 [url=http://www.xocat.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13312002&ptid=431][img]http://www.xocat.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


都明白既, 等三個月真係好難捱. [/quote]

Yes and no , I am quite confident I did not have aids and syphilis. Its personal to take the test at 4th week. And a conclusive result at 12 weeks.
There are such good references and tests, I don't see a reason why one not taking it first if one can afford it, at least I worry and I concern, so I just want to eliminate my anxiety and worry. The references and researches are very convincing and reliable, its not like a rumor. If its just a rumor, then I wouldn't find so many references and quotes from other STDs experts. At least is not just one expert that saying it, but many experts from around the world.

But you know my concern.......

[[i] 本帖最後由 ken1121 於 2011-1-11 21:41 編輯 [/i]]

[quote]原帖由 [i]kksick[/i] 於 2011-1-11 17:04 發表 [url=http://58.64.143.73/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13310588&ptid=431][img]http://58.64.143.73/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

是部份人呀 , 都是90日較穩妥, 就是不知道180日後還要驗否, [/quote]

關懷愛滋話三個月後驗, 而結果係陰性, 準確度係100%, 無需要半年再驗啦.

[quote]原帖由 [i]bebebaba1234[/i] 於 2011-1-11 22:25 發表 [url=http://www.xocat.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13312318&ptid=431][img]http://www.xocat.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


關懷愛滋話三個月後驗, 而結果係陰性, 準確度係100%, 無需要半年再驗啦. [/quote]

Agree, all countries stand by the rules for 3 months. But in medical terms, there are no 100%, its just a 99.99%. No doctor will say you are 100% ok, only as high as 99%.

請問, 我已5個月了, 暫時都剩係得大腸桿菌jj炎, 請問仲有冇d咩要驚?  花仲會唔會有?   同埋我而家仲係扯起打飛機果陣會甩皮~

[quote]原帖由 [i]紫崇[/i] 於 2011-1-11 23:01 發表 [url=http://www.xocat.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13312547&ptid=431][img]http://www.xocat.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
請問, 我已5個月了, 暫時都剩係得大腸桿菌jj炎, 請問仲有冇d咩要驚?  花仲會唔會有?   同埋我而家仲係扯起打飛機果陣會甩皮~ [/quote]

According to medhelp.com, most warts show up in the months following exposure. The longer it has been since your last exposure, the less likely it is that you will develop warts from that incident. Sometimes warts will show up years or decades after exposure, so there is no set limit. This is really rare though.

by H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D., May 05, 2009 10:39AM
The quick answer to the question as you posed it in the title is that warts generally appear 3-12 weeks after exposure.  Maybe as soon as 2 weeks, but certainly never earlier than that.

Most warts are not smooth (although that can happen) and usually more than one wart is apparent.

It is true that over 90% of genital warts and other HPV infections clear up on their own within a few months.

I hope this will help you.

[quote]原帖由 [i]kksick[/i] 於 2011-1-11 16:50 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13310496&ptid=431][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

上面熊猫兄講一般1或兩個星期就出, 無事架 [/quote]

師兄, 你依家只不過係驚有事, 唔似我地直頭出左事, 先唔好咁緊張, 真係有事先緊張啦, 不過真係有事緊張都無用, 唯一辦法馬上去醫, 我地個個都係咁樣面對:loveliness:

[quote]原帖由 [i]熊貓[/i] 於 2011-1-11 23:24 發表 [url=http://www.xocat.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13312714&ptid=431][img]http://www.xocat.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


師兄, 你依家只不過係驚有事, 唔似我地直頭出左事, 先唔好咁緊張, 真係有事先緊張啦, 不過真係有事緊張都無用, 唯一辦法馬上去醫, 我地個個都係咁樣面對:loveliness: [/quote]

我 都 明,未 有 事 擔 心 有 事 甘 樣 心 理 唔 多 平 衡 。  唔 想 成 日 想 住 ﹐  但 系 真 系 好 難 ﹐  好 困 擾 。  
中 左 既 ﹐  既 來 之 則 安 之 , 睇 醫 生 。  未 中 招 又 check唔 到 真 系 搞 到 個 人 好 心 煩 。

Ching﹐  你 都 要 加 油 啊  睇 完 med help d forum, 好 多 都 系 話 過 到 半 年 就 好 少 再 出 。  過 到 1年 通 常 免 疫 系 統 都 會 壓 倒 hpv 同 d warts既 毒 。

e家過左1個月多d沉日睇醫生話我係非淋開左2個禮拜藥..但無叫我去驗尿
我應該食埋d藥先定去驗左先好~

非林你食咩药?

医非林真要即刻医唔拖得。 好似系食阿奇霉素， right??

非淋照计验尿同种菌会好d, 起码知道系边一种菌感染。
应该系支原体感染成非淋，定依原体感染。

[quote]原帖由 [i]灰心[/i] 於 2011-1-12 10:08 發表 [url=http://58.64.143.73/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13314585&ptid=431][img]http://58.64.143.73/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
e家過左1個月多d沉日睇醫生話我係非淋開左2個禮拜藥..但無叫我去驗尿
我應該食埋d藥先定去驗左先好~ [/quote]

細菌我醫生話算係易攪，　食藥都搞得掂。當然食晒D藥, 無晒SYMPTOMS再驗下清晒未啦.
想請問下師兄有乜野symptoms?

[quote]原帖由 [i]bebebaba1234[/i] 於 2011-1-12 13:49 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13315626&ptid=431][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


細菌我醫生話算係易攪，　食藥都搞得掂。當然食晒D藥, 無晒SYMPTOMS再驗下清晒未啦.
想請問下師兄有乜野symptoms? [/quote]

如果清到yes, 睇以前d post, 有d Ching治疗用左1年-2年， 好似话治疗不当因为就系唔知中边只细菌感染。 最后由急性变左慢性， 仲感染左前列腺。

[quote]原帖由 [i]ken1121[/i] 於 2011-1-12 14:22 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13315816&ptid=431][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


如果清到yes, 睇以前d post, 有d Ching治疗用左1年-2年， 好似话治疗不当因为就系唔知中边只细菌感染。 最后由急性变左慢性， 仲感染左前列腺。 [/quote]
medhelp.com 呢個site 我都有睇過,dr hhh  佢地講到hpv 好輕鬆,又話over 80 % 的人,一生中都感染過,又話warts 唔出半年就無事,唔洗話俾future partner知,但以呢度師兄的經驗,
warts 真係幾煩.............另外ken 兄你用左dom 唔洗咁驚中aids,如果咁都中全世界大把人有,仲hit過傷風

[quote]原帖由 [i]TTTT1[/i] 於 2011-1-12 22:45 發表 [url=http://www.xocat.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13318868&ptid=431][img]http://www.xocat.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

medhelp.com 呢個site 我都有睇過,dr hhh  佢地講到hpv 好輕鬆,又話over 80 % 的人,一生中都感染過,又話warts 唔出半年就無事,唔洗話俾future partner知,但以呢度師兄的經驗,
warts 真係幾煩.............另外ken ... [/quote]

Say it this way, in North America, HPV is a common issue. Hong Kong and/or other Chinese communities, they take STDs as something that is fxxking huge issues, they were not as open. Chinese are more refrain to speak from sex or related issues, our traditions and the concept of Confucious were deeply planted inside us from the day we born as a Chinese.

Take a look at this calculation:
Even you use condom, according to previous studies, it reduce the infection rate of HPV by 70%. Recent study suggest that it is about 90% reduction.
So in a single protected sex intercourse, you have as high as 30% chance catching HPV and as low as 10%. This calculation is just a basic fact, I haven't include the transmission rate from women to men or from men to women.
You can pretty much say, you will probably catch 1 type of HPV per 3 protected sex intercourses.
This is too common in North America, its just people in Hong Kong were not that educated by these facts.

Moreover, there are 100 types of HPV, and warts are mainly caused from 2 types. Some other hpv also causes warts but not as likely or as common as HPV 6/11.
Even the high risk hpv, people will get cure either by their own immune system, or by treatment if the high risk hpv caused further issue on women. And as said, men do not have much concerns on other HPV beside warts.
So, warts are only cosmetic issues to them. All you have to do is just remove it and go on with your life. It comes, remove it. What's next?

Its just our tradition is different. In my opinion, I do care and worry about warts when facing this issue to my previous girlfriend. But if I am to have a new girl friend, I wouldn't worry this much. Not that I don't like her, but I will teach her these facts and let her know I had this before.

[quote]原帖由 [i]TTTT1[/i] 於 2011-1-12 22:45 發表 [url=http://www.xocat.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13318868&ptid=431][img]http://www.xocat.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

medhelp.com 呢個site 我都有睇過,dr hhh  佢地講到hpv 好輕鬆,又話over 80 % 的人,一生中都感染過,又話warts 唔出半年就無事,唔洗話俾future partner知,但以呢度師兄的經驗,
warts 真係幾煩.............另外ken ... [/quote]

I agree with you, if condom catches HIV, I can imagine there will be lots of posts about catching HIV thru condoms.
In fact, I never heard one saying that catches HIV with condom. So, I am confident I don't have HIV, but always an assurance after tests.
But it sucks, I am still worrying about warts and herpes.

[quote]原帖由 [i]ken1121[/i] 於 2011-1-12 23:20 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13319209&ptid=431][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


I agree with you, if condom catches HIV, I can imagine there will be lots of posts about catching HIV thru condoms.
In fact, I never heard one saying that catches HIV with condom. So, I am confi ... [/quote]
warts 真係好難講,見過有d 無啦啦出都會,but herpes 2-3 weeks 無就多數無, 驗血驗到的,if 中herpes自己一定知

[quote]原帖由 [i]ken1121[/i] 於 2011-1-12 14:22 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13315816&ptid=431][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


如果清到yes, 睇以前d post, 有d Ching治疗用左1年-2年， 好似话治疗不当因为就系唔知中边只细菌感染。 最后由急性变左慢性， 仲感染左前。 [/quote]
中埋前列腺炎啦以經~可能拖得耐左
另外而家下體間唔中好痕唔知係食藥影響到~定係出花既先兆
有d神經緊張....><

請問我5個月都冇花, 仲要驚幾耐?
3個月aids 冇事, 6個月洗唔洗再驗?

[quote]原帖由 [i]紫崇[/i] 於 2011-1-13 01:57 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13320371&ptid=431][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
請問我5個月都冇花, 仲要驚幾耐?
3個月aids 冇事, 6個月洗唔洗再驗? [/quote]

3个月都无出其实以经好大机会无。 如果你5个月都无出， 我觉得你接近99%唔会有。 你打去问下Dr.会好d， 不过正常应该都系1-5个月内会出。 Ching拒地话通常头3个月就会出， 我上网睇左好多case, 3个月后出既真系好少， 唔到5%。 而且呢5%入面， 部份好可能系后期感染。

Brothers cheers up. Scientists are wrking days and nights to get new medicine to fight disease. If we can hold , we will survive .  Pray to your gods , have faith and to live long.

:Q
Spent quite some money on testing, now I gotta get some money from the market ;P
Hope the stocks do good, otherwise I will be more depress

[quote]原帖由 [i]ken1121[/i] 於 2011-1-13 10:55 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13321622&ptid=431][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


3个月都无出其实以经好大机会无。 如果你5个月都无出， 我觉得你接近99%唔会有。 你打去问下Dr.会好d， 不过正常应Ŧ ... [/quote]
嗯 師兄, 我龜頭扯起甩皮個問題仲係度, 係呢 咁AIDS 係唔係3個月篤手指冇事就唔洗再篤架啦? 我可以如常捐血?

[quote]原帖由 [i]紫崇[/i] 於 2011-1-14 01:18 發表 [url=http://58.64.143.73/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13326430&ptid=431][img]http://58.64.143.73/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

嗯 師兄, 我龜頭扯起甩皮個問題仲係度, 係呢 咁AIDS 係唔係3個月篤手指冇事就唔洗再篤架啦? 我可以如常捐血? [/quote]

Theoretically, Yes.

但問卷會問你有無叫過雞的, 答有, 佢多數唔會比你捐.:Q

[quote]原帖由 [i]紫崇[/i] 於 2011-1-13 17:18 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13326430&ptid=431][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

嗯 師兄, 我龜頭扯起甩皮個問題仲係度, 係呢 咁AIDS 係唔係3個月篤手指冇事就唔洗再篤架啦? 我可以如常捐血? [/quote]

Regarding blood donation,  I have asked Dr Ho.  He said it is better don't,  DON'T.  First, you may have taken medicine or whatever, it may not be good to the receiver.  Secondly,  even the tests were negative ,  we did not still know you are 100% clean/pure. Why do it unless it is a must that you have to be a blood doner to someone.

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Regarding blood donation,  I have asked Dr Ho.  He said it is better don't,  DON'T.  First, you may have taken medicine or whatever, it may not be good to the receiver.  Secondly,  even the tests  ... [/quote]
師兄,你最近好嗎???

[quote]原帖由 [i]garamon[/i] 於 2011-1-11 09:37 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13310806&ptid=431][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Stanley, 停了出疣約1年半。現只擔心太太，hpv過了2年仍未被清除。 [/quote]

未清的意思係無發出黎既係咪, 無發出黎唔係=無事咩?

good! very useful

其實真係好想知以前呢度d大哥,依家係唔係好番晒,咩情況,自己都有個心理準備,
其實係呢度好多師兄都唔係外面d人咁諗係大滾友,hpv 真係好易中,見呢到好多師兄d英文都咁勁,絕對唔係係大陸髮廊$150 叫雞,仲要唔用dom的人,外人睇一定覺得中花係雞虫,唔用dom,抵死,真係中過先知咁易中,無處不在 ><
另外覺得呢度好似係一個大監獄,希望早d可以出去,我都預醫2年,希望有機會重新做人,可以過d正常日子~~~另外再多謝樓主同埋以前d師兄俾左咁多有用資料,如果唔係都唔知點算,唔通個個星期排正苦,俾人歧視咩~~~

有機會睇到呢個post 的大哥,雖然明白離開左呢度,無人想番黎,但間中上黎講下近況,可以幫到好多人,thx all~~~

[quote]原帖由 [i]TTTT1[/i] 於 2011-1-15 16:45 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13336125&ptid=431][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common無勿/back.gif[/img][/url]其實真係好想知以前呢度d大哥,依家係唔係好番晒,咩情況,自己都有個心理準備,其實係呢度好多師兄都唔係外面d人咁諗係大滾友,hpv 真係好易中,見呢到好多師兄d英文都咁勁,絕對唔係係大陸髮廊$150 叫雞,仲要唔用dom的人 ... [/quote]
系吾系大滾友就難定義，

不過以我所見過，會計師，老師，大學教師，就算總工程師都有出去威，就算十六，十八歲學生成群都有去威，就算賺五六千人工也去威，無話讀得多書就吾滾，系睇個人性格


另一問題系，法式日式和最流行的莞式大行其道，親密前戲接觸好貼身下，先系重點！

[quote]原帖由 [i]TTTT1[/i] 於 2011-1-15 16:45 發表 [url=http://58.64.143.73/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13336125&ptid=431][img]http://58.64.143.73/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
其實真係好想知以前呢度d大哥,依家係唔係好番晒,咩情況,自己都有個心理準備,
其實係呢度好多師兄都唔係外面d人咁諗係大滾友,hpv 真係好易中,見呢到好多師兄d英文都咁勁,絕對唔係係大陸髮廊$150 叫雞,仲要唔用dom的人 ... [/quote]

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[b]我過左剛剛個聖誕己經2年無事了.[/b]
[b]只是疤痕還在.[/b]:'(
[b]現在不係有好明顯既病徵, 都不會上15/F比佢check.
因為都幾金. 上去30min見佢5~10min咁又$500.:Q
其實放鬆d, 一定會好, 係睇下遲定早.[/b][/color][/size]:lol

[quote]原帖由 [i]man002[/i] 於 2011-1-15 18:38 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13336735&ptid=431][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]

系吾系大滾友就難定義，

不過以我所見過，會計師，老師，大學教師，就算總工程師都有出去威，就算十六，十八歲學生成群都有去威，就算賺五六千人工也去威，無話讀得多書就吾滾，系睇個人性格


另一問題系， ... [/quote]

我第一次上大陸玩就係同班大學損友去東莞, 師兄講得啱架, 同讀書多少無關, 一來心癮, 二來需要.

我兩個月一次都中招啊, 有D一個月去足四星期, 每次幾Q都無事, 又或者有事我唔知掛, 哈哈.

東莞果D乜野式真係好過癮, 做之前一堆前戲, 又毒龍鑽, 吹都幾種方法, 如果唔係中左招, 我估我都繼續玩緊.

[[i] 本帖最後由 bebebaba1234 於 2011-1-16 14:45 編輯 [/i]]

[quote]原帖由 [i]bebebaba1234[/i] 於 2011-1-16 14:28 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13342357&ptid=431][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]


我第一次上大陸玩就係同班大學損友去東莞, 師兄講得啱架, 同讀書多少無關, 一來心癮, 二來需要.

我兩個月一次都中招啊, 有D一個月去足四星期, 每次幾Q都無事, 又或者有事我唔知掛, 哈哈.

東莞果D乜野 ... [/quote]我都係第一次玩第一次中招~
而家成日諗會唔會就咁中埋ａ．食左１個禮拜藥冇乜起色~

[quote]原帖由 [i]灰心[/i] 於 2011-1-16 14:50 發表 [url=http://forum.timway.com/f/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=13342472&ptid=431][img]http://forum.timway.com/f/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
我都係第一次玩第一次中招~
而家成日諗會唔會就咁中埋ａ．食左１個禮拜藥冇乜起色~ [/quote]

你出去玩時有無帶套?
呢D病係長手尾D架啦, 但遲早會好的.:wave:

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你出去玩時有無帶套?
呢D病係長手尾D架啦, 但遲早會好的.:wave: [/quote]有用到做但口交無用...

其實我指的意思唔係話讀得書多,就唔會去玩,係有一定教育水平,識保護自己,
好多人以為中招就實係叫平雞,唔用dom

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我 都 明,未 有 事 擔 心 有 事 甘 樣 心 理 唔 多 平 衡 。  唔 想 成 日 想 住 ﹐  但 系 真 系 好 難 ﹐  好 困 擾 。  
中 左 既 ﹐  既 來 之 則 安 之 , 睇 醫 生 。  未 中 招 又 check唔 到 真 系 搞 到 ... [/quote]

我中係皰疹, 比佢搞到我煩.........

过左3week， 我剩下既担心只有hpv同埋花:Q
今日Dr.Ho有报告返， 但愿无中hpv。 但系我估我会做多一次个hpv test系其他部位。
如果两个test都无事， 我估我感染机会率低度1-5%。