小肥t 2007-8-17 01:20
今日又有一粒.....希望有機會好喇
Tony1 2007-8-17 13:08
小肥t
努力,加油.我們支持你
suicide 2007-8-17 19:18
how old are you? PrintPro. It seems not much people here have herpes.
stanleysex 2007-8-17 22:02
[quote]原帖由 [i]PrintPro[/i] 於 2007-8-14 17:47 發表
stanley, there is no cure for herpes in the world right now. It keeps reoccur every two months!! [/quote]
PrintPro唔洗灰心雖然我未試過, 但係我睇過大陸既電玩節目同問過香港醫生, 其實即是細菌在你體內而已, 即感冒一樣, 當你好翻後, 除左你再比細菌感染, 唔係既已經叫做好翻, 可以照生bb都無問題, 當然就係唔可以再出去玩.
PrintPro兄你結左婚未呀?
stanleysex 2007-8-17 22:08
[quote]原帖由 [i]suicide[/i] 於 2007-8-15 11:41 發表
I really dont know how to live on in the future. It seems that I cant get married at all in the future. How can I tell my gf in the future that you have such an sickness. My emotion so down now. [/quote]
Suicide兄唔好灰心啦, 我成2年到依家前日先去做多次冷凍, 但我看都唔會咁快好, 不過應該都會係依年內ok, 我都未放棄, 你只要睇翻我地之前post好多兄弟既分享, 你就會放鬆d, 正如我之前post一樣, 好多醫生講過都係可以洽好既泡疹, 疣和淋病, 當然姿d唔係咁快可以醫好, 而且細菌比較強, 所以無咁快好哂, 不停翻發, 但係醫生都sure重可以正常生bb的, 唔信你下次去睇時問下醫生.
suicide 2007-8-18 01:06
This is quoted from the FDA
"We, as a society, don't do well with STDs," says Terri Warren, R.N., owner of the Westover Heights Clinic in Portland, Ore., specializing in the treatment of sexually transmitted diseases. "When people have a lifelong STD, they feel dirty, damaged, and unapproachable. Most people have a dramatic drop in self-esteem."
Treatment
Although there is no cure for genital herpes, there are medications that significantly reduce the frequency and duration of outbreaks and have few side effects in most people.
It is really hard to find a girl that accept this sickness
PrintPro 2007-8-18 01:33
yeah it is just like flu, herpes resurface when you body is in bad shape. Drugs can only on hold the outbreaks but not cure it.
And i'm about to marry to my gf i think in 2008. I really hope there is one thing that could cure this horrible herpes!
Tony1 2007-8-18 07:14
[quote]原帖由 [i]stanleysex[/i] 於 2007-8-17 14:08 發表
Suicide兄唔好灰心啦, 我成2年到依家前日先去做多次冷凍, 但我看都唔會咁快好, 不過應該都會係依年內ok, 我都未放棄, 你只要睇翻我地之前post好多兄弟既分享, 你就會放鬆d, 正如我之前post一樣, 好多醫生講 ... [/quote]
最重要相信醫生.如一個不掂,看多幾個,總有一個掂.只要不依賴政府就好了.
Tony1 2007-8-18 07:15
差不多六萬人次.新版這題目剛剛過了一年了.:):givemefive:是否第一瀏覽人次呀？:P不是第一,應該入也到TOP 5:beer:
[[i] 本帖最後由 Tony1 於 2007-8-17 23:18 編輯 [/i]]
very_sad069 2007-8-18 11:43
@suicide, @Printpro
這條 thread 令我很矛盾, 坦白說我不想回來, 因為會憶起我的 stupid, 但我又每天來這裡當 cd-rom 看看大家的心聲和進展, 因為, 我也是和大家一伙的.
我在今年 5 月中了招, 驗血報告稱我感染了 herpes type 2,
看醫生, 搽藥膏及吃藥, 在 6 月初左右病徵消失了,
從網資料得知, 病毒已入了神經, 終生不能消滅, 只看她何時伺機再來襲擊你矣,
從今年 5 月初中招, 隨後 6 月痊癒, 跟著一直沒有翻發,
我經常留意小弟弟的情況, 但數天前, 好像有一小粒, 不痛的, 新長出來, 我不知是否翻發, 但若是翻返, 該不至一粒吧... (心存僥倖中)
我相信 suicide 及 PrintPro 兄受此問題困擾, 該上網看了不少 herpes 的資料吧, 我亦不浪廢文字.
現在, 我明白最正道的方法是, 加強自己的抵抗力, 藥物, 可免則免,
我今年 34, 吸了煙 18 年, 但我得病後, 我戒了,
酒, 我沒有刻意戒, 因為我只是和朋友吃飯時才喝一點啤酒, 並不頻密,
我以往進膳不定時, 現在我一定吃足早午晚三餐,
我以往經常捱夜, 作息時間日夜癲倒, 現在我改了, 晚上儘量早點睡, 儘量早點起床 (上午十點左右便起床), 儘量保時充足睡眠,
吃的方法, 我沒有刻意介口, 反而, 我喝多了水, 每天 2 公升,
我以往完全沒有運動, 現在我每天運動.
歸根究底, 我們對 herpes 及同類傳染病的恐懼, 來自對這類病不能斷尾的絕望,
我雖然患了這個不能斷尾的 herpes, 是個遺憾, 但這卻另我重拾回了一些老掉牙的事, 例如, 身邊的人, 將來, 健康, 價值觀等等,
病, 只是我的一部份矣, 還有其他事等著我, 所以, 既然我不能將此病毒清出體外, 我便要與之和平共處, 只要她不回來, 我便是正常人一個
對於愛人, 這沒法子, 我知道這病不能斷尾後, 經過大輪掙扎, 我自行將炸彈引爆, 心理壓力放下不少.
暫時想不到其他了, 草草收筆, 兄弟們, 共勉之!
suicide 2007-8-18 13:19
PrintPro and very_sad069
How do you two tell your gf about your sickness and what is their reaction?
suicide 2007-8-18 16:39
Sorry for very_sad069 that I bring up your memory. I just dont know what to do.......
777day 2007-8-19 00:10
用了3M 1 week, 不痛不腫, 沒反應, 是否正常? 還是3M 對自己身體無效?? Thanks.
ISaidNeverAgain 2007-8-19 00:37
[quote]原帖由 [i]very_sad069[/i] 於 2007-8-18 11:43 發表
@suicide, @Printpro
這條 thread 令我很矛盾, 坦白說我不想回來, 因為會憶起我的 stupid, 但我又每天來這裡當 cd-rom 看看大家的心聲和進展, 因為, 我也是和大家一伙的.
我在今年 5 月中了招, 驗血報告稱我 ... [/quote]
嗯,大家多多努力就是了~
互勉之!
我也要像你一樣生活的有條有理
PrintPro 2007-8-19 08:51
HI very_sad069, suicide
I didn't tell my gf about this.
A healthy life style is always the priority for our body. Stress also play a significant role here.
To very_sad069 bro: if it really resurface, don't be sad and go to your doc asap for medication.
keep in touch
PrintPro 2007-8-19 15:06
回復 #2284 very_sad069 的帖子
did your doc recommend daily suppression drugs like Valtrex to u? My doc said it is dangerous to use daily suppressant cuz the virus would get used to the drugs and no longer effective to the virus in the long run. I just take drugs when outbreak comes. And he said the top thing to prevent outbreak is to maintain a healthy and stress-free life, if possible. To me, i go home at 1:30am every night after i close my shop, so i always lack of sleep and eat crap food all the time. i think i'm gonna eat more healthy, and i don't smoke nor drink.
talk later.
TTTT1 2007-8-19 16:48
幾日前jj中間位生左粒野,用手按落去有膿出,又唔似暗瘡,心情很差,想搵dr ho睇睇,兄弟們可否俾個地址,收費相關資料
very_sad069 2007-8-20 00:04
@PrintPro,
我是在 Dr. Ho 及政府衛生科那裡看的, 他們均沒有提議我需要長期服用你所提的藥, 只是說若覆發, 便回來再看醫生.
目前根本沒藥物或方法可以把 herpes 斷尾, 故此你醫生提出長期服用 Valtrex , 相信是透過 "仰制療法", 來達至預防, 或減少 herpes 覆發的目的. side effect 是對肝有損害, 所以醫生都會建議要多喝水.
在國內的 herpes 論壇, 有不少人使用 "仰制療法" 後, 表示 herpes 雖仍有覆發但次數減少了, 但一停藥, 覆發次數明顯增加.
況且, 從國外的 herpes 醫學報告得知, herpes 初發或覆發的病徵是可以自行痊癒的 (約 2-3 weeks), 只看你自身抗體用多少時間戰勝矣. 藥物 Valtrex (或 Zovirax, Famvir) 作用是阻止病毒 dna 複製, 減少患病時痛楚.
所以, 如你的醫生所說, 首要真的是加強身體健康, 藥物反而是次要 ------ 除非 herpes 情況嚴重, 我個人不考慮使用 "仰制療法", 寧可在覆發初期, 才馬上用藥來縮短發作期, 及減少發作期間的痛楚.
@suicide,
我身邊的人得悉我患病後沒什麼負面 reaction. 可能是上天給我的一次機會吧, 所以, 我要更加珍惜我自己, 才有能力去珍借身邊的人.
@ISaidNeverAgain,
Thx!
very_sad069 2007-8-20 00:15
@PrintPro,
嗯, 以我自身為例, 吃得雜不算太大問題 (我也常吃垃圾食物), 但最好不要偏吃, 多喝水保持腸胃暢通, 及要食足最基本的餐 (早午晚), 睡眠充足你才能吸收營養的. 做運動來強健體格.
從最基本方面著手, 雖然我是患病, 但我現在的身體卻比以往強健了 (苦笑).
PrintPro 2007-8-20 01:45
回復 #2292 very_sad069 的帖子
thanks for your info bro. I will keep that in mind! =)
PrintPro 2007-8-20 01:47
回復 #2291 TTTT1 的帖子
You should go to see doc asap bro. Good luck!!
stanleysex 2007-8-20 01:58
各位兄弟, 有關泡疹同疣真係好難攪, very_sad069講得岩, 最緊要自己努力面對, 令你知道原來人真係咁化學, 應該多珍惜身邊既人, 令外醫學不斷進步, 好快應該可以有藥物出黎減低或消滅病毒的, 只係時間問題.
但令外唔知係咪有一個好消息比大家或參考, 可以令各位對依幾個病加深認識, 好唔好唔知, 聽下睇下參考都好.
我今日上網睇QQ LIVE, 即裝了QQ後的網上電視, 裡面有一個公共頻道, 係夜晚大約12點開始就會有醫院D人黎賣廣告和詳細介紹依D生值器病, 係講得幾詳細, 不過信唔信你自己話啦, 佢地都係話只要你好翻, 就一定可以生仔, 唔洗驚, 同DR HO & DR TAM講一樣, 會好翻的, 佢更加話會發明左D中藥可以殺哂D病毒, 信唔信就睇你自己了, 但可以參考下聽下都好.
Tony1 2007-8-20 02:19
stanleysex
小弟覺得大陸的電視/電台信不過.
不過我覺得要積極面對.相信醫生.
kurtlau2005 2007-8-20 06:10
比d時間,慢慢就會好,以前d兄弟大多都不見了,我以前都做左成三十多次冷凍,但現在都有三個月冇事了
suicide 2007-8-20 13:48
very_sad069
Have your gf ask you how do you get this disease? It is really good that your gf can accept it. Take care of her.
PrintPro
It seem it is too dangerous not telling your gf,
This disease still have a chance to transmit to her even if you have no symptom and use condom (virus shedding)
If you get married, in case the disease is transmitted to her accidentally, the situation can get more worse and complicated. She will think that you cheat on her after marriage.......
very_sad069 2007-8-20 14:04
@suicide,
她沒有問我如何得 herpes (其實我已預先想好個借口了, 但還好, 我無須使用)
對, herpes 就是這樣的可惡, 有機會在無徵狀下傳播病毒, 機率好像是 10-20 %, 但有一點較肯定, 有 herpes 的地方不會四處跑, 所以, 若是 condom 可以 cover 的地方, 保護的可靠性仍很高的, 若 condom 包不住的地方便較麻類.
暫時, 只知將來會有疫苗可以預防 herpes type 2, 但只 for 女性 only, 但不知何時問世.
suicide 2007-8-20 16:19
It is unfortunate that my herpes only little on the penis but widely spread on the genital area. This may be due to I cut my hair to examinate and made the herpes virus widely spread. I am not quite sure. I am still waiting for the pattern of my recurrence and area. My last two recurrence occur in two different positions which is not covered by condom. Sigh.....
What kind of excuse do you think I can minimize the harm to a girl?
The vaccine is herpevac, if the phase III test which is in progress is OK. The vaccine can be out in 2010 or before. But the vaccine is only 40% effective and valid to female.
suicide 2007-8-20 16:21
I can feel that my recurrence rate can be high in the future...
very_sad069 2007-8-20 23:24
@suicide,
若皮膚上有破損會很易瀨野, 所以, 要 keep 住留意小弟弟情況, 若有損口要特別小心處理, 最好預先問定醫生點搞, 因為消毒或殺菌藥不可隨便亂用的, 否則發生抗藥性便更麻煩.
關於借口, 我認為是將事發時間推早, 說成是在認識她前已染病, 對方該較易接受, 但是否合情合理, 見人見智. 請你自行考慮一下.
我十分明白你的困擾, 因為我也同途人, 但請記著, 只去想及去做一些你能做, 能控制的事, 那些你不能做或不能控制的, 無謂去多想.
PrintPro 2007-8-20 23:26
回復 #2302 suicide 的帖子
we will do a full body check up before we get marry next year. And she already had her body check last two months and show nothing unusual.
mt pattern is around 2 months. And every time is on different areas.
PrintPro 2007-8-20 23:27
回復 #2302 suicide 的帖子
we will do a full body check up before we get marry next year. And she already had her body check last two months and show nothing unusual.
my pattern is around 2 months. And every time is on different areas.
lhmlhm 2007-8-21 02:43
Francc 兄, 梅毒要先驗血才確定係唔係真中招, 馬上驗血啦! 去油麻地男性診療所驗血唔使錢, 不過等報告就耐咗啲, 但都要去 ! 記得唔好同親人有任何液體接觸, 包括口水, 都會傳染架, 小心 ! 早啲醫會根治嘅, 唔使驚。
lhmlhm 2007-8-21 03:09
唔帶袋 ?
我10幾年前中過招 : 淋病, 椰菜花。結婚之後沒再叫鳮了。 最近, 我重出江湖, 但每上一次都必定帶袋, 兼且3個月後到油麻地檢查, 証實無事才上第2次。 幸好至今沒事發生。
我想請問各位中過招嘅兄弟, 記憶中是否沒帶袋, 或不娙意地有液體接觸才中招?
我這樣問是想借各種實例來評估風險。
敬希幫忙!
stanleysex 2007-8-21 06:23
[quote]原帖由 [i]lhmlhm[/i] 於 2007-8-20 19:09 發表
我10幾年前中過招 : 淋病, 椰菜花。結婚之後沒再叫鳮了。 最近, 我重出江湖, 但每上一次都必定帶袋, 兼且3個月後到油麻地檢查, 証實無事才上第2次。 幸好至今沒事發生。
我想請問各位中過招嘅兄弟, ... [/quote]
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你同我一樣啊, 咁你結婚後有無生細路呀? 你幾歲?
lhmlhm 2007-8-21 13:49
回應 Stanleysex
Stanleysex 兄, 其實我check 清楚無事才拍拖結婚生仔, 期間完全不涉足色情場所。 我現在40餘歲, 隔咗10幾年後, 最近出返來玩, 但很小心, 驚再中招。多數只是帶袋吹蕭算數, 有2次見條女年青(19歲)才入過黑洞。
suicide 2007-8-21 14:32
PrintPro,
Is the body check include the STD?
伙記1 2007-8-21 21:05
回復 #2307 lhmlhm 的帖子
ihmihm
hello, 你好, 我以前出去玩, 去大陸d高級骨場玩, 有好多明星都有去, 我次次玩都有帶套, 不過估唔到玩o左幾年(玩o左差唔多8年, 我每個星期都會去2-3次)都中招, 我只係去同一間場(消費都幾貴), 唔會去第二間, 因為我見過有明星去玩(任x華, alan, 苗x偉, 曾x偉), 估唔到o甘高級的骨場, d女都有病,
不過, 而家差唔多年半無事, 應該唔會再有, 講真呀, 我問過醫生, 佢話無事, 生bb無問題
只不過而家結o左婚差唔多成年, 有時覺得單身生活比較適合我, 可能我習慣一個人生活
stanleysex 2007-8-21 23:05
[quote]原帖由 [i]lhmlhm[/i] 於 2007-8-21 05:49 發表
Stanleysex 兄, 其實我check 清楚無事才拍拖結婚生仔, 期間完全不涉足色情場所。 我現在40餘歲, 隔咗10幾年後, 最近出返來玩, 但很小心, 驚再中招。多數只是帶袋吹蕭算數, 有2次見條女年青(19歲)才入過黑洞。 [/quote]
lhmlhm兄請問你大約用左幾耐時間好翻疣, 好翻幾耐你先生仔, 另外你d細路應該都係好健康對嗎? 多謝你既寶貴意見比好多兄弟分享!!
stanleysex 2007-8-21 23:06
lhmlhm兄咁樣講你咪成十幾年都無翻發過?
PrintPro 2007-8-22 01:43
回復 #2310 suicide 的帖子
yep include everything!
Tony1 2007-8-22 02:54
伙記1
以小弟所知道囡囡問題與高唔高級無關,大陸的機會會大一點,因為對於病患知識不是太多.還有就是「錢」.大陸就算再高級也沒有分別,曾聽說有師兄認為去大陸夜總會玩比大陸街女中招機會低的.其實不是.
小弟當年去過澳門某夜總會玩,聽聞每星期也會做body check.至於澳門骨場沒有聽聞.
在澳門骨場也聽說有人中招.但澳門夜總會就未曾聽聞中招.
當然最好不要玩,但90%的人會再去玩.至於玩的原因大家應該明白.
[[i] 本帖最後由 Tony1 於 2007-8-21 19:03 編輯 [/i]]
Tony1 2007-8-22 03:02
伙記1
這問題,小弟明白一點.其實互相相處的學問很大.曾經有一位囡囡告訴我一個故事「她的好朋友老公時常出去玩,不理會家庭,不知道怎麼辦.於是囡囡教她要體諒老公,溝通多一點,還有要多一點性趣.這樣就能留住老公,結果她老公現在不出去玩,還更愛她.」
suicide 2007-8-22 10:48
PrintPro,
Will you let your gf know you have the disease?
PrintPro 2007-8-22 13:04
回復 #2317 suicide 的帖子
i think not. and u?
lhmlhm 2007-8-22 13:25
回復 #2313 stanleysex 的帖子
係呀! 十幾年都無翻發過， 已經斷尾。
lhmlhm 2007-8-22 13:38
回復 #2311 伙記1 的帖子
單身始終有單身好處, 至少有乜事都唔會累及親人,我亦好嚮往。
如果認真檢查過而無事的話, 我相信生細路應該唔係問題。
我個細路都讀 F.2 啦!
正如 Tony 1 所講, 係边個場玩都有可能中招, 要睇对方性病知識足夠與否,
自己執生。
lhmlhm 2007-8-22 13:56
回復 #2284 very_sad069 的帖子
兄台, 我一直存在一固問題是關於 herpes 2 的:
當不在翻發時段內, 會否仍有傳染力?
suicide 2007-8-22 14:00
printpro,
Is your body test include the STD?
suicide 2007-8-22 14:12
PrintPro
My story with my gf is a long one....i can say we have broken up before I have this disease. I am too Lonely working in China and too much pressure on the job that almost drive me crazy. I discover myself have symptom on depression.
Before I brake up with my gf, I know that she have another guy. In discover accidentally from her phone SmS, that guy even call her LP in the SMS. Anyway, we still keep in touch infrequently but I dont know what is her altutide toward me and that guy. But I feel that she still want to get married with me......
I dont really want to tell her about my situation but I know I need to give her an answer at last.
very_sad069 2007-8-22 18:20
@lhmlhm ,
只要中過 herpes 2, 病毒會躱在神經中, 終生不滅 (目前來說),
據國外的資料調查, herpes 2 會有機會無徵狀下傳播病毒 (好像是 10-20%),
這些資料我還是信美國的, 因為 herpes 在美國普遍得嚇人,
故此, 有翻發, 肯定會傳毒, 沒翻發, 亦有機會傳毒.
如有懷疑, 都係帶返頂帽好.