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I've seen 4 specialists, still recon Dr. Ho is the best.
I chose him be my primary doctor not because his consultation fee is cheaper. I think his diagnose is much delicated. Although he didn't gave me the full check each time but he explained very clear (sometime give me references) to me why those spots aren't warts. Not every doctor work this way and only reply they aren't.
Yes, Dr. Ho indeed gives me a very supportive feeling. But he is also quite responsible what he says at the same time. His comment is very convincing and positive. So I need a second opinion (Dr. Au) to balance and pick up what he missed. For instance, Dr Au is much delicated to follow-up my finger wart's wound. Anyway, I trusted them both.
From what you say, I believe Dr. Lau is also a good one. Once he is a good doctor and taking extra care for the patient, §¡¯u is not a bad thing at all.
Maverick 2008-1-25 16:13
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Thanks for the sharing
I've seen 4 specialists, still recon Dr. Ho is the best.
I chose him be my primary doctor not because his consultation fee is cheaper. I think his diagnose is much delicated. Although he didn't gave me the full check each time but he explained very clear (sometime give me references) to me why those spots aren't warts. Not every doctor work this way and only reply they aren't.
Yes, Dr. Ho indeed gives me a very supportive feeling. But he is also quite responsible what he says at the same time. His comment is very convincing and positive. So I need a second opinion (Dr. Au) to balance and pick up what he missed. For instance, Dr Au is much delicated to follow-up my finger wart's wound. Anyway, I trusted them both.
From what you say, I believe Dr. Lau is also a good one. Once he is a good doctor and taking extra care for the patient, §¡¯u is not a bad thing at all. [/quote]
Thank you come back to the forum and share your thought.
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My last opinion to you, we can't justify what is ÄY« or not. Doctors have seen so many cases each day and provide their professional advices to the patient. Both my doctors suggested me not to use 3M. This is because different people have different conditions to get rid of warts. I trusted the doctors as they said I don't need 3M as my type and locations are simply not serious. Using 3M will surely make my dick worst, it may burn the other part of my penis and spread the virus. I CAN'T judge it myself, but doctor can. However, some people do need 3M to help their recovery. We simply can't judge ourselves unless you are a doctor. We shouldn't share any comments about your condition.
¾a¦Û¨§K¬Ì¤O¥h±þ¦ºd¯f¬r is after a proper treatment from doctors.
Ú»Âå¥Í³£ø«Y¸U¯à, but they can give you the best way to recover.
Warts is nothing like ·P«_, once you don't grab the best time for treatment, it may spread to worst area like penis tip.
About my incubated wart i mention, I don't realise it is a wart at all. Only a professional can spotted and treated when it was still a small growing one.
Otherwise it may take weeks to become a visable one.
Hope you should take our advises. Go to see a doctor. If you still keep the faith that you can heal warts with your own, think some brothers like me would never answer or reply to you. You are a DANGEROUS person to share as you only trust what the internet / forum.
I don't want to take any responsibility even in the forum. This forum doesn't work this way I believe. Every brothers must responsible what they say.
Good Luck, hope ¦Û¨§K¬Ì¤O can kill HIV, Cancer, CJD, Avian Flu............. one day
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My last opinion to you, we can't justify what is ÄY« or not. Doctors have seen so many cases each day and provide their professional advices to the patient. Both my doctors suggested me not to use 3M. This is because different people have different conditions to get rid of warts. I trusted the doctor as they said I don't need 3M as my type and locations are simply not serious. Using 3M will surely make my dick worst, it may burn the other part of my penis and spread the virus. I CAN'T judge it myself, but doctor can. However, some people do need 3M to help their recovery. We simply can't judge ourselves unless you are a doctor. We shouldn't share any comments about your condition.
¾a¦Û¨§K¬Ì¤O¥h±þ¦ºd¯f¬r is after a proper treatment from doctors.
Ú»Âå¥Í³£ø«Y¸U¯à, but they can give you the best way to recover.
Warts is nothing like ·P«_
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I don't what to take any responsibility even in the forum. This forum doesn't work this way I believe. Every brothers must responsible what they say.
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My last opinion to you, we can't justify what is ÄY« or not. Doctors have seen so many cases each day and provide their professional advices to the patient. Both my doctors suggested me not t ... [/quote]
Thank you for your reply so much.
I mostly agree with your opinions.
Anyway, I had already choose 3M and using it almost 3 weeks. Seems comming better now...
That is why I think to continuous.
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AAV-2 2008-1-25 16:46
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Thank you for your reply so much.
I mostly agree with your opinions.
Anyway, I had already choose 3M and using it almost 3 weeks. Seems comming better now...
That is why I think to continuous. [/quote]
Fine, then use it privately. Some CD-ROM read your case and may have a same thoughts with you. "Why should I have to see a doctor?" and just buy a box of 3M. It works on you doesn't mean it works for anyone. Surely, I can't stop what people think and what they do. Every one should responsible what they say here.
If we sick, go to see a doctor, if the doctor isn't good change another one, it simple as that.
Nothing offensive to you, we are here to share our experience from what doctors told us, who is a good, encourage each other, but not given medical advises. We are not doctors.
Wishing you ok
whg 2008-1-25 17:01
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Fine, then use it privately. Some CD-ROM read your case and may have a same thoughts with you. "Why should I have to see a doctor?" and just buy a box of 3M. It works on you doesn't m ... [/quote]
Sorry for sharing my mind here. Agree that my thinking and my method may be wrong.
Anyway, hope every one recover from the warts soon:)
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Sorry for sharing my mind here. Agree that my thinking and my method may be wrong.
Anyway, hope every one recover from the warts soon:) [/quote]
Just want you to recover sooner and get the best treatment. Nothing more important than your health.
Best Wishes
AAV-2 2008-1-28 16:34
Clinical Trial - alpha-2b Cream
Helix is in phase two trials (started last year 2007) for an interferon cream (same function as 3M I guess) used on vaginal or penis tissue that is expected to eradicate the visisble wart and non-visible virus.
[url]http://www.helixbiopharma.com[/url]
Hope this replacement cream, which is a new, PAINLESS and convenient approach to the treatment of genital warts. Again, this is what the medicine company say, they don't know if there is any side effect yet. But I really hope this cream will developed one day instead of using the horrible 3M (although I've never use 3M before).
P.S. Vaginal's Infection (female) is more trouble than men, and female can't use 3M often because of it's side effect. so they targeted women to test this cream.
AAV-2 2008-1-28 16:48
By the way, one more, the good news for this one is they completed all three phases of clinical trial and launched on the US market in December 2007, I guess they already get the approval from FDA. If so, it will launch in Hong Kong 1-2 years.
[url]http://www.medigene.de/englisch/ProjektPE[/url]
" VeregenTM is MediGene's second approved drug. In 2006, MediGene has received the marketing authorization by the US regulatory authority FDA. MediGene's marketing partner Bradley Pharmaceuticals takes on promotion and commercialization of the product in the USA.
VeregenTM contains a concentrate of catechines with a defined composition. These natural substances are extracted from green tea leaves in a specific procedure. During clinical development, VeregenTM (Polyphenon® E Ointment) tested in the treatment of genital warts showed high and sustained efficacy with very few adverse events. The results come from an international phase III development program, during which more than 1,000 patients in 15 countries were medicated with VeregenTM (Polyphenon® E Ointment). "
"Copied from [url]www.medigene.de[/url]"
Again this is what the medicine company say, we should wait quitely to see if they is any side effect of any new drugs.
AAV-2 2008-1-28 17:09
Some more info, here is the history of this drug, is originated from China , really proud of our motherland of this Natural ´Óª«ÃÄ
Hope the article is not too long
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Thanks, I have no recurrence so far, and have 2 more weeks to pass the 3 months observation period. Think I will shift more to Dr. Au (or try Dr. Lau) after this period, the main reason because Dr. Ho has too many patients even after 4-5pm (at least someone waiting after me).
And yes, Dr Ho missed one test of my Venereology check(he though I did once on the second month), which Dr Au find out and I need to check again. Anyway I trusted him a lot and need a second opinion for guarantee.
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