kkwong7606 2006-12-20 12:30
BMW engine oil Problem
My BMW 3-series has engine oil low problem, the yellow warning light has come out almost every 3-4 months. When I went to BMW services centre, they keep saying checking and checking. There is NO oil leakage found, and finally they (BMW Services Centre) said it is normal???
Is there anybody has similar problem?
Is it normal as they (BMW) said??
kkwong7606 2006-12-20 13:04
I forgot to mention it is old version 3-series (E46), and it is only 1.5 years old only.
Can any Brother give me any suggestion:bow:
白蘭氏 2006-12-20 13:17
揾唔到邊度漏油仲大獲. 可能'簪'口漏再經死氣排出車外.
kkwong7606 2006-12-20 13:42
Thanks for your reply.
I have already left in BMW services Centre for few days, and they confirmed they have checked the Seal and cannot found.
The most annoying is finally BMW services centre said" It is normal":fire: If it is normal, they should tell me immediately. I have already returned the car to me 3-4 times to check:fire::fire::fire:
jkjkelvin 2006-12-20 15:47
係呢年半你有冇換過油?
Jeff9394 2006-12-20 17:44
你 多 唔 多 爆 高 轉?
可 唔 可 以 講 你 係 E46 邊 個 model
你 死 氣 喉 有 冇 煙? 如 有....... 係 咩 色?
你 有 冇 用 人 手 check 係 唔 係 真 係 engine oil 唔 夠?
冇 不 如 下 次 check 下 有 就 其 實 又 夠 唔 夠 呢?
kkwong7606 2006-12-20 17:51
[quote]原帖由 [i]jkjkelvin[/i] 於 2006-12-20 03:47 PM 發表
係呢年半你有冇換過油? [/quote]
BMW advising 1-year to change oil and I did it about 6-7 months ago (when my car is just about 1-year old) at BMW Servicing Centre.
kkwong7606 2006-12-20 17:56
[quote]原帖由 [i]Jeff9394[/i] 於 2006-12-20 05:44 PM 發表
你 多 唔 多 爆 高 轉?
可 唔 可 以 講 你 係 E46 邊 個 model
你 死 氣 喉 有 冇 煙? 如 有....... 係 咩 色?
你 有 冇 用 人 手 check 係 唔 係 真 係 engine oil 唔 夠?
冇 不 如 下 次 check 下 有 就 其 ... [/quote]
Sometimes in high RPM for fun (but not much), ususally is normal driving.
BMW320 - 2,200 c.c. / 6-cylinders
NO white smoke coming out (both front and rear I have checked)
When we actually checked by oil ruler, it shows it is NOT enough
:wondering::wondering::wondering:
keibeast 2006-12-20 20:25
用錯engine oil 個evapouration valve壞左 或 engine cooling唔到都會引致咬油,. valve stems, valve seals出事亦會出現大咬油. 如果係 cylinder head gasket leakage 可以check 下d死氣有冇油臭味, 又或者 coolant return reservoir會有 emulsified 油漬. engine compression test 都可以搵出internal leak o既問題.
e46咬油係正常的, 正常渣平均10000km 1 litre.
[[i] 本帖最後由 keibeast 於 2006-12-21 01:08 AM 編輯 [/i]]
kkwong7606 2006-12-21 12:56
[quote]原帖由 [i]keibeast[/i] 於 2006-12-20 08:25 PM 發表
用錯engine oil 個evapouration valve壞左 或 engine cooling唔到都會引致咬油,. valve stems, valve seals出事亦會出現大咬油. 如果係 cylinder head gasket leakage 可以check 下d死氣有冇油臭味, 又或者 cool ... [/quote]
BMW have already checked several times.
"e46咬油係正常的, 正常渣平均10000km 1 litre" Is it true or normal:wondering:
polonixm 2006-12-22 15:51
seen you have mentioned "BMW service" in every single message.
i encountered the same thing b4 , but only got fixed in outside proshops (gasket problem).
so forget BMW (just a dealer) service & opt for outside, esp. if yours a used one , not brand new bought from them . \ie, warranty expired.
they charge way too much but their mechanics are ... average, c what i mean ?
take it as an advice... cheers.:quiet:
[[i] 本帖最後由 polonixm 於 2006-12-22 03:53 PM 編輯 [/i]]
kkwong7606 2006-12-22 16:46
[quote]原帖由 [i]polonixm[/i] 於 2006-12-22 03:51 PM 發表
seen you have mentioned "BMW service" in every single message.
i encountered the same thing b4 , but only got fixed in outside proshops (gasket problem).
so forget BMW (just a dealer) ... [/quote]
Becuse it is still under warranty that is why I going back.
I know their charge is very high, I supoosed Sime Darby is a big group and they are BMW dealer which should be more professional:fire:
Your B4 has same problem, and is it serious??
Anyway, thanks for your advice
polonixm 2006-12-22 17:50
i dont mean B4 , i mean before ...
sime darby is big, but the mechanic who handles your car may just a new guy from nowhere.
tats the problem with those dealer's workshop.
kkwong7606 2006-12-22 18:08
[quote]原帖由 [i]polonixm[/i] 於 2006-12-22 05:50 PM 發表
i dont mean B4 , i mean before ...
sime darby is big, but the mechanic who handles your car may just a new guy from nowhere.
tats the problem with those dealer's workshop. [/quote]
O ICIC. Thanks.
But just 818, what is your car?
Some friends said maybe high RPM caused the problem:wondering:
And "Keibeast" siad it is normal to consume 1 litre per 10,000km:wondering::wondering:
polonixm 2006-12-22 18:12
hi,
that was 3 years almost ago, tats a 318i of my wife.
i prefer jap. esp. toyota & honda.
now i got a elysion & a landcruiser cygnus. :)
however i 'm not that agree that an engine should consume that much e/g oil
per 10k kms... though..
[[i] 本帖最後由 polonixm 於 2006-12-22 06:13 PM 編輯 [/i]]
kkwong7606 2006-12-22 18:30
landcruiser cygnus:loveeyes: I like it.
elysion :wondering: Sorry I don't know, what brand?
WURTH 2006-12-27 12:49
[quote]原帖由 [i]polonixm[/i] 於 2006-12-22 05:50 PM 發表
i dont mean B4 , i mean before ...
sime darby is big, but the mechanic who handles your car may just a new guy from nowhere.
tats the problem with those dealer's workshop. [/quote]
可能係真, 不過我估未必係. 如果頭一兩次, 可能reset左就算, d師傅仔唔係咁有經驗. 但係都三四次, 應該都好大問題, 大師傅出馬, 仲會同你試埋車. 係唔係荃灣呀, 冇咁差播. 你話要投訴, 一定整好!;P
kkwong7606 2006-12-27 13:18
[quote]原帖由 [i]WURTH[/i] 於 2006-12-27 12:49 PM 發表
可能係真, 不過我估未必係. 如果頭一兩次, 可能reset左就算, d師傅仔唔係咁有經驗. 但係都三四次, 應該都好大問題, 大師傅出馬, 仲會同你試埋車. 係唔係荃灣呀, 冇咁差播. 你話要投訴, 一定整好!;P [/quote]
Tokuwan workshop:L
But now they said it is normal, then nothing you can say, you can't even complain:fire::fire::fire:
polonixm 2006-12-27 14:02
e/g oil got vaporised in such a speed. normal ???
very very convincing indeed... ;P
kkwong7606 2006-12-27 14:07
[quote]原帖由 [i]polonixm[/i] 於 2006-12-27 02:02 PM 發表
e/g oil got vaporised in such a speed. normal ???
very very convincing indeed... ;P [/quote]
VERY Convincing :reading::reading:(more than 1 litres vaporised with 3-4 months)
:saujai::saujai:
Nothing I can say:'(:'(:'(
polonixm 2006-12-27 17:26
forget it, sell it before it got worst.
u pay for the quality , not headaches .. :L
buy japs. may be... :handshake
WURTH 2006-12-27 18:16
唔好... 賣俾我..
唔好.. 賣俾我..
唔好. 賣俾我..
唔好賣俾我..
:D
keibeast 2006-12-27 23:26
又打到中文啦:applause:
日本車的 operating temperature都係低ｄ的， 所以果ｄ因高溫氣化的油就少ｄ． 大部分的歐洲車引擎都是高溫ｄ， 咁氣化就多左， 流回crankcase就少ｄ， 見過有D車連個evaporation valve都冇就直接連去 throttle body潤滑順便燒埋. 以前整車時見過有架 C200改turbo, 就加個cooling can將d氣化左o既油condense之後從dipstick tube流回 crankcase
Mercedes 83-97 owner manual 有寫 oil consumption 係正常的. 用舊左重會多d, 如果係近期買e46咁新o既車, 應該唔會有咁嚴重o既問題.
不過好多時咬油都係因為piston rings 磨花左 cylinder所致. 如果係新車冇modified air cleaner又或者一撻車未上油就扮有型咁踩油, 應該唔會有d咁o既情況.
[[i] 本帖最後由 keibeast 於 2006-12-28 12:49 PM 編輯 [/i]]
polonixm 2006-12-28 11:38
:applause:不過E D說話係米應該由SERVICE班友同車主講....
"老細....唔好意思呀.....可能內傷worrrrr..."":afraid:
[[i] 本帖最後由 polonixm 於 2006-12-28 11:39 AM 編輯 [/i]]
kkwong7606 2006-12-28 11:55
[quote]原帖由 [i]keibeast[/i] 於 2006-12-27 11:26 PM 發表
又打到中文啦:applause:
日本車的 operating temperature都係低ｄ的， 所以果ｄ因高溫氣化的油就少ｄ． 大部分的歐洲車引擎都是高溫ｄ， 咁氣化就多左， 流回crankcase就少ｄ， 見過有D車連個evaporation ... [/quote]
Thanks for your professional advice:applause::applause::applause:
"不過好多時咬油都係因為piston rings 磨花左 cylinder所致" the chance of this reason is Big:wondering: How I can identify? Or the only thing is asking workshop to check again?
kkwong7606 2006-12-28 11:57
[quote]原帖由 [i]polonixm[/i] 於 2006-12-28 11:38 AM 發表
:applause:不過E D說話係米應該由SERVICE班友同車主講....
"老細....唔好意思呀.....可能內傷worrrrr..."":afraid: [/quote]
Of course they won't say that at least until the warranty period expiry:fire:
kkwong7606 2006-12-28 12:00
[quote]原帖由 [i]polonixm[/i] 於 2006-12-22 06:12 PM 發表
now i got a elysion & a landcruiser cygnus. :)
[/quote]
Bro polonixm, just for interest, what is elysion:wondering::wondering::wondering:
polonixm 2006-12-28 13:00
here it is , direct honda 's answer to alphard & elgrand ,
it runs on a VCM ( variable cylinder management) engine ,
in simple terms is it cuts 3 cylinders out of the V6 down when cruising at higher speeds for fuel economy, quite happy with it so far... :)
kkwong7606 2006-12-28 13:06
[quote]原帖由 [i]polonixm[/i] 於 2006-12-28 01:00 PM 發表
here it is , direct honda 's answer to alphard & elgrand ,
it runs on a VCM ( variable cylinder management) engine ,
in simple terms is it cuts 3 cylinders out of the V6 down when cruising ... [/quote]
The outlook is so attractive:loveeyes::loveeyes::loveeyes:
Is VCM engine has significant fuel saving:wondering:
polonixm 2006-12-28 13:10
average it runs at $1.5-1.8 @km. so far.
bear in mind all 6 cylinders are on when in stop & go traffic...
quite smart .. in a way. :)
kkwong7606 2006-12-28 13:38
[quote]原帖由 [i]polonixm[/i] 於 2006-12-28 01:10 PM 發表
average it runs at $1.5-1.8 @km. so far.
bear in mind all 6 cylinders are on when in stop & go traffic...
quite smart .. in a way. :) [/quote]
I agreed this fuel consumption is good for V6 engine:givemefive:
What is the price range now? And it is still only "water goods" available:wondering:
polonixm 2006-12-28 14:34
yeah, local dealer didnt got this so called flagship model from honda JP..
i get this from gray market 280k for a 04 model V6 3.0 .
there are 2.4 & 3.0 models available in hk now, getting popular...
kkwong7606 2006-12-28 14:47
[quote]原帖由 [i]polonixm[/i] 於 2006-12-28 02:34 PM 發表
yeah, local dealer didnt got this so called flagship model from honda JP..
i get this from gray market 280k for a 04 model V6 3.0 .
there are 2.4 & 3.0 models available in hk now, getting ... [/quote]
Thanks:). Gray market means Japan second hand car:wondering:
Sometimes, I can't understand why the official dealer do not import such good model:fire:
polonixm 2006-12-28 15:11
should be, but for a used JP import used in a good condition,
thk. it 's worth it.
most parallel importers even register new cars in JP prior to shipping out to hk, making it into a "used" status in order to gain import duty cuts for reg. in hk. ... fair enough...
but mine is a REAL used "used: . hahah.
kkwong7606 2006-12-28 15:31
[quote]原帖由 [i]polonixm[/i] 於 2006-12-28 03:11 PM 發表
should be, but for a used JP import used in a good condition,
thk. it 's worth it.
most parallel importers even register new cars in JP prior to shipping out to hk, making it into a "used ... [/quote]
It seems risky to buy "used" car (even though I learnt Japanese second hand car is good in quality) because there is NO test drive and only based on inforamtion or photo, am I right:wondering:
polonixm 2006-12-28 18:09
no la, 見貨買貨, tats the rule...
plenty of them around , no need to buy from "photos" or catalogs.
:)
kkwong7606 2006-12-28 18:13
[quote]原帖由 [i]polonixm[/i] 於 2006-12-28 06:09 PM 發表
no la, 見貨買貨, tats the rule...
plenty of them around , no need to buy from "photos" or catalogs.
:) [/quote]
ICIC:verygood:
keibeast 2007-1-2 00:51
[quote]原帖由 [i]kkwong7606[/i] 於 2006-12-28 03:55 PM 發表
因為piston rings 磨花左 cylinder所致" the chance of this reason is Big How I can identify? Or the only thing is asking workshop to check again? [/quote]
如果engine wear, 耗油量增加, 架車會冇力. d engine oil 會有好多金屬 desposites. engine compression test或bmw o既 on board computer 都會顯示. 如果係氣化得太厲害, 拆開個 throttle body 會見到好多油漬或 tar.如果 benz 4 個控制入氣 o既hydraulic dup 磨損左都會咬油. bmw 好似都有差唔多o既 variable intake技術.
你最好check 清楚 compression test report, 睇下d數字係唔係差唔多.
wailai888 2007-1-2 05:51
[color=Teal][size=5]愚見....
一番歐洲車都要用高唸度機油...
因大部份都系油壓(架泠濕)[弓𨀂]{大龍}...
最小用SAE10W起...
試吓用Ｄ高唸度機油....
100%全合成機油SAE15W50...
見吓仲有冇燒機油現像...[/size][/color]
kkwong7606 2007-1-2 13:01
[quote]原帖由 [i]keibeast[/i] 於 2007-1-2 12:51 AM 發表
如果engine wear, 耗油量增加, 架車會冇力. d engine oil 會有好多金屬 desposites. engine compression test或bmw o既 on board computer 都會顯示. 如果係氣化得太厲害, 拆開個 throttle body 會見到好 ... [/quote]
Thanks for your advice:D:D:D
kkwong7606 2007-1-2 13:01
[quote]原帖由 [i]wailai888[/i] 於 2007-1-2 05:51 AM 發表
愚見....
一番歐洲車都要用高唸度機油...
因大部份都系油壓(洌大龍}...
最小用SAE10W起...
試吓用Ｄ高唸度機油....
100%全合成機油SAE15W50...
見吓仲有冇燒機油現像... [/quote]
Thanks:D:D:D
ranbanseven 2007-1-5 15:12
Mercedes is nothing but the best
The BMW always has the electronic problem , so I brought a Mercedes since 1996 and it's much much more than any BMW that I've driven before!!
allure 2007-1-5 15:46
[quote]原帖由 [i]ranbanseven[/i] 於 2007-1-5 03:12 PM 發表
The BMW always has the electronic problem , so I brought a Mercedes since 1996 and it's much much more than any BMW that I've driven before!! [/quote]
[color=Teal]much much more [color=Red]"what" [/color]than any BMW????:wondering::wondering::wondering:[/color]
kkwong7606 2007-1-5 16:01
古語有云:
平治好9屎
宝馬多鹹濕
下刪各大品牌...
Same wordings to same guy :L:L:L
polonixm 2007-1-5 16:55
give this "KID" a break, guys. ;P
any body accept my bet that he dont even have got his drivers lic. yet... ??;P
[[i] 本帖最後由 polonixm 於 2007-1-5 05:34 PM 編輯 [/i]]
kkwong7606 2007-1-5 17:00
[quote]原帖由 [i]polonixm[/i] 於 2007-1-5 04:55 PM 發表
give this "KID" a break, guys. ;P
any body accept my bet that he dont even have his drivers lic. yet... ??;P [/quote]
:givemefive::givemefive::givemefive:
:beer::beer::beer:
kkwong7606 2007-1-5 17:03
[quote]原帖由 [i]polonixm[/i] 於 2007-1-5 04:55 PM 發表
give this "KID" a break, guys. ;P
any body accept my bet that he dont even have his drivers lic. yet... ??;P [/quote]
Maybe all his posts are just "Jokes", you can see it from his name ;P;P;P
Jeff9394 2007-1-5 17:27
[quote]原帖由 [i]ranbanseven[/i] 於 2007-1-5 15:12 發表
The BMW always has the electronic problem , so I brought a Mercedes since 1996 and it's much much more than any BMW that I've driven before!! [/quote]
你 玩 過 新 E-Class 同 S-Class 未? ;P
polonixm 2007-1-5 17:33
hey, kk,
did u mean my bet is accepted.
how abt. 10k . ??? ;P:lol
kkwong7606 2007-1-5 17:56
[quote]原帖由 [i]polonixm[/i] 於 2007-1-5 05:33 PM 發表
hey, kk,
did u mean my bet is accepted.
how abt. 10k . ??? ;P:lol [/quote]
Of course, I bet 1M, accept??? ;P;P;P