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billy888 2006-12-29 19:35

5號仔(匯豐)比里昂咁唱法,大家驚唔驚?

[size=5]5號仔(匯豐)比里昂咁唱法,大家驚唔驚?  :dizzy::dizzy::afraid::afraid:


你地對佢仲有期望嗎?《外資精點》里昂大幅降匯控目標價至115元,因料資產質素轉壞   
12月 14日 星期四 18:29 更新
《經濟通專訊》里昂(新聞 - 網站 - 圖片)證券發表研究報告指出,大幅調低匯控(0005)目標價由141元,降至115元,投資評級則由「遜於大市」,降至「沽售」,因預期美國及英國資產質素轉壞,令集團撥備提升,以及交易收入增長減慢,相信集團盈利增長加速放緩。(cy)[/size]
[url]http://hk.biz.yahoo.com/061214/239/1y9ug.html?s=0005.hk[/url]

fitman 2006-12-29 21:34

Dont worry baby, it's not the first time to "sing" HK Bank, good chance to buy when it drops.:quiet::quiet:

leoxi 2006-12-29 22:48

It's only one of the investment bank's comments, others like GS, ML Citi they still recommend "hold" with a higher target price.

cyberken 2006-12-30 09:13

forget it lar, this is the "NORMAL" practice which the i-bank always use. If they not release that kind of "negative" report / comment to the market, how the investor sold the stock from their hand and how the i-bank can refill the stock at the lower price. Maybe they had lanuch so many "call" warranty when HSBC raised up at 145 - 146, poor them

sdc2005 2006-12-30 09:23

If the price of #5 drop back to HK$115-120 level. I think I will buy some. :beer:

小花至愛 2007-1-2 10:30

all other hongs' reports suggest 14x-16x,,,  :D:D:D

Without a big index crash, there is no way for HSBC to drop below 130 in 2007,,,

superk1 2007-1-2 11:29

[quote]原帖由 [i]billy888[/i] 於 2006-12-29 07:35 PM 發表
5號仔(匯豐)比里昂咁唱法,大家驚唔驚?  :dizzy::dizzy::afraid::afraid:


你地對佢仲有期望嗎?《外資精點》里昂大幅降匯控目標價至115元,因料資產質素轉壞   
12月 14日 星期四 18:29 更新
《經濟通專 ... [/quote]
[size=6]危言聳聽......................[/size]:fire::fire::fire::fire::fire:

東虫 2007-1-2 12:33

[quote]原帖由 [i]billy888[/i] 於 2006-12-29 11:35 AM 發表
5號仔(匯豐)比里昂咁唱法,大家驚唔驚?  :dizzy::dizzy::afraid::afraid:


你地對佢仲有期望嗎?《外資精點》里昂大幅降匯控目標價至115元,因料資產質素轉壞   
12月 14日 星期四 18:29 更新
《經濟通專 ... [/quote]

GOGOGO
I will buy more.

My stocking average for 005 is $110.

kkwong7606 2007-1-2 12:42

[quote]原帖由 [i]東虫[/i] 於 2007-1-2 12:33 PM 發表


GOGOGO
I will buy more.

My stocking average for 005 is $110. [/quote]

Such a lucky guy:applause::applause::applause: My average is HK$125.:hamsup::hamsup::hamsup:

catwolfx 2007-1-2 13:26

兩隻中資股已經令HSBC 漲左成1000億有多

東虫 2007-1-2 13:36

[quote]原帖由 [i]kkwong7606[/i] 於 2007-1-2 04:42 AM 發表


Such a lucky guy:applause::applause::applause: My average is HK$125.:hamsup::hamsup::hamsup: [/quote]

長揸. $160都唔放
:loveeyes::loveeyes::loveeyes:

catwolfx 2007-1-3 10:19

投資中資股賺大錢, 睇黎短期會上 147

b4321 2007-1-3 10:50

HSBC now is at $145.

Don't believe much in the reports fm big accounts and those Tsang Sir show in the TV nor newspapers.
They have their own purpose.

kkwong7606 2007-1-3 11:04

[quote]原帖由 [i]b4321[/i] 於 2007-1-3 10:50 AM 發表
HSBC now is at $145.

Don't believe much in the reports fm big accounts and those Tsang Sir show in the TV nor newspapers.
They have their own purpose. [/quote]

Of course la:L:L:L, Uncle 6 & Tsang sir are only for those C9 ;P;P;P

kkwong7606 2007-1-3 11:06

[quote]原帖由 [i]東虫[/i] 於 2007-1-2 01:36 PM 發表


長揸. $160都唔放
:loveeyes::loveeyes::loveeyes: [/quote]

I think it is long way to go:wondering::wondering::wondering:

Especially their US & UK performance is NO good:L:L:L

小花至愛 2007-1-4 14:17

Today's HSBC is stagnant,,, worse than my expectation,,,

but I found that 8038 里昂 which set HSBC's target price at 115 is queuing and collecting at 144.4,,, :hamsup::hamsup:

peninsula 2007-1-4 15:21

[quote]原帖由 [i]小花至愛[/i] 於 2007-1-4 02:17 PM 發表
Today's HSBC is stagnant,,, worse than my expectation,,,
[/quote]
No worse la. Index is under over 300! :P:o:soldier:

東虫 2007-1-4 16:39

[quote]原帖由 [i]kkwong7606[/i] 於 2007-1-3 03:06 AM 發表


I think it is long way to go:wondering::wondering::wondering:

Especially their US & UK performance is NO good:L:L:L [/quote]


10 年
:soldier:

peninsula 2007-1-4 16:48

[quote]原帖由 [i]東虫[/i] 於 2007-1-4 04:39 PM 發表
10 年
:soldier: [/quote]
What is meaning?? :wondering::o:dizzy:

billy888 2007-1-6 16:07

[quote]原帖由 [i]billy888[/i] 於 2006-12-29 07:35 PM 發表
5號仔(匯豐)比里昂咁唱法,大家驚唔驚?  :dizzy::dizzy::afraid::afraid:


你地對佢仲有期望嗎?《外資精點》里昂大幅降匯控目標價至115元,因料資產質素轉壞   
12月 14日 星期四 18:29 更新
《經濟通專 ... [/quote]
[size=5]荷銀證券唱5號仔(匯豐)again!!!!!!!!!!!
《外資精點》荷銀調低匯控評級至沽售,因今年北美業務前景欠佳     
1月 5日 星期五 15:32 更新

《經濟通專訊》荷銀證券發表研究報告表示,將匯豐控股(新聞 - 網站 - 圖片)(0005)投資評級由「持有」,調低至「沽售」,目標價調低至124﹒5元。
該行表示,調低匯控評級主要因今年北美業務前景表現欠佳,該業務於去年上半年佔集團除稅前盈利達34%,而由於業務模式改變,旗下匯控財務的經營將面對困難,相信收入增長未能抵銷壞帳上升影響。

荷銀又指出,除北美業務表現不理想外,預期匯控至2009年的每年盈利增長只會於低雙位數水平。(bi)[/size]

東虫 2007-1-6 18:46

[quote]原帖由 [i]peninsula[/i] 於 2007-1-4 08:48 AM 發表

What is meaning?? :wondering::o:dizzy: [/quote]

meaning: 長揸10 年都唔放 :D


[quote]原帖由 [i]kkwong7606[/i] 於 2007-1-3 03:06 AM 發表
[quote]原帖由 [i]東虫[/i] 於 2007-1-2 05:36 AM 發表
長揸. $160都唔放
:loveeyes::loveeyes::loveeyes: [/quote]

I think it is long way to go:wondering::wondering::wondering:
Especially their US & UK performance is NO good:L:L:L [/quote]

東虫 2007-1-9 11:47

...葛 霖 在 訪 問 中 表 示 ,  控 於 02 年 底 收 購  豐 融 資 , 對 集 團 發 展 具 有 重 大 策 略 意 義 ,  豐 染 指 信 貸 質 素 較 為 次 級 ( sub-prime ) 的 按 揭 業 務 , 他 認 為 方 向 正 確 , 但 鑑 於 美 國 經 濟 轉 弱 , 集 團 在 年 結 前  報 中 已 列 出 對 按 揭 組 合 影 響 的 關 注 , 「 我 們 有 時 可 能 犯 了 一 些 執 行 上 的 錯 誤 … … 但 問 題 已 得 到 處 理 及 控 制 。 」 .....

kkwong7606 2007-1-9 12:42

Target price can be from 115 to 170:wondering::wondering::wondering:

:dizzy::dizzy::dizzy:

leoxi 2007-1-9 13:32

[quote]原帖由 [i]kkwong7606[/i] 於 2007-1-9 12:42 PM 發表
Target price can be from 115 to 170:wondering::wondering::wondering:

:dizzy::dizzy::dizzy: [/quote]

Analysts have different views, that's why the target price range is that wide.  

In fact, if there aren't any solid positive news from HSBC about reducing their risk exposure in US and UK, the stock price could slide badly at the day of earning announcement (in Feb/March).  :(

Hopefully HSBC will increase dividend yield to restore investors' confidence.  :victory:

東虫 2007-1-9 13:54

5仔係鬼王一派,梗幫大小魔王踐死紅軍la
:P

kkwong7606 2007-1-9 14:20

[quote]原帖由 [i]東虫[/i] 於 2007-1-9 01:54 PM 發表
梗幫大小魔王踐死紅軍la
:P [/quote]

:wondering::wondering::wondering:

peninsula 2007-1-9 14:23

[quote]原帖由 [i]東虫[/i] 於 2007-1-9 01:54 PM 發表
5仔係鬼王一派,梗幫大小魔王踐死紅軍la [/quote]
I will buy if under $140.:quiet::o:soldier:

billy888 2007-1-9 15:13

[quote]原帖由 [i]billy888[/i] 於 2006-12-29 07:35 PM 發表
5號仔(匯豐)比里昂咁唱法,大家驚唔驚?  :dizzy::dizzy::afraid::afraid:


你地對佢仲有期望嗎?《外資精點》里昂大幅降匯控目標價至115元,因料資產質素轉壞   
12月 14日 星期四 18:29 更新
[size=6]《經濟通專 ... [/quote]
摩根大通發表研究報告,調低多家香港上市銀股行的投資評級,當中匯豐控股的評級由「增持」調低到「中性」,目標價降7%到152元:burst:
摩根大通的報告稱,雖然匯控現股價相當於2007年預測市盈率11.9倍,看起來已經便宜,但美國信貸市場疲弱,其盈利將陸續遭投資銀行調低,香港息差收窄亦引發盈利風險;該行認為,面對信貸周期疲弱,及盈利遭調低的負面情況下,銀行股難有突出的表現。:burst:[/size]

jimmy1001 2007-1-9 16:03

I shall buy in if below $140 for long term holding:lol

peninsula 2007-1-10 13:16

[quote]原帖由 [i]jimmy1001[/i] 於 2007-1-9 04:03 PM 發表
I shall buy in if below $140 for long term holding:lol [/quote]
Reached today and now will wait for $135. ;P:lol:):hamsup::quiet::lookaround:

mmr.ren 2007-1-10 14:01

same here, I guess it will fall some more.

billy888 2007-1-10 14:09

[quote]原帖由 [i]peninsula[/i] 於 2007-1-10 01:16 PM 發表

Reached today and now will wait for $135. ;P:lol:):hamsup::quiet::lookaround: [/quote]
[size=6]
peninsula 版主:wave: Really??can reach 135??:D
I see lowest point around 138!!!!!!!!!!!!at 2007:reading:[/size]

peninsula 2007-1-10 14:11

[quote]原帖由 [i]billy888[/i] 於 2007-1-10 02:09 PM 發表
peninsula 版主:wave: Really??can reach 135??:D
I see lowest point around 138!!!!!!!!!!!!at 2007:reading: [/quote]
Can if HSI gets at @18,000.:lol;P:hamsup::lookaround::quiet:

mmr.ren 2007-1-10 14:16

某大行話目標價 128 添呀

billy888 2007-1-10 14:38

[quote]原帖由 [i]billy888[/i] 於 2007-1-10 02:09 PM 發表


peninsula 版主:wave: Really??can reach 135??:D
I see lowest point around 138!!!!!!!!!!!!at 2007:reading: [/quote]

[size=6]Very strong支持位係140!![/size]:saujai::saujai::saujai:

billy888 2007-1-10 14:42

[quote]原帖由 [i]billy888[/i] 於 2006-12-29 07:35 PM 發表
5號仔(匯豐)比里昂咁唱法,大家驚唔驚?  :dizzy::dizzy::afraid::afraid:


你地對佢仲有期望嗎?《外資精點》里昂大幅降匯控目標價至115元,因料資產質素轉壞   
12月 14日 星期四 18:29 更新
《經濟通專 ... [/quote]
[size=6]預期pe 11.x 點插都應該唔會太多[/size]:saujai:

peninsula 2007-1-10 14:43

[quote]原帖由 [i]billy888[/i] 於 2007-1-10 02:38 PM 發表
Very strong支持位係140!!:saujai::saujai::saujai: [/quote]
Not so long. All barriers can be broken - just look at #2628 today!:P;P:hamsup::quiet::reading:

billy888 2007-1-10 14:45

[quote]原帖由 [i]peninsula[/i] 於 2007-1-9 02:23 PM 發表

I will buy if under $140.:quiet::o:soldier: [/quote]
[size=6]3328 與 0005中的選擇?   


如有60000元, 要各位在0005及3328選一隻, 會如何? 謝[/size]:reading:

peninsula 2007-1-10 14:49

[quote]原帖由 [i]billy888[/i] 於 2007-1-10 02:45 PM 發表
3328 與 0005中的選擇?   
如有60000元, 要各位在0005及3328選一隻, 會如何? 謝:reading: [/quote]
ALWAYS choose #5. :lol:):quiet::givemefive:

leoxi 2007-1-10 23:35

[quote]原帖由 [i]billy888[/i] 於 2007-1-10 02:45 PM 發表

3328 與 0005中的選擇?   


如有60000元, 要各位在0005及3328選一隻, 會如何? 謝:reading: [/quote]

I would pick 3328, but not at this price range.  The rationale is that with A shares listed, HSBC will need to accumulate more shares.  Plus by Q2-Q3 of 2008 HSBC will own up to 40% of 3328.  With good management, it's a good investment.  Just be patient if you want to buy 3328.

For 005, it is also good, but less upside potential compared with 3328.  There are just too many bad news going on.  :Q

peninsula 2007-1-11 09:44

[quote]原帖由 [i]mmr.ren[/i] 於 2007-1-10 02:16 PM 發表
某大行話目標價 128 添呀 [/quote]
匯豐控股(0005)股價繼續尋底,於倫敦更跌穿139元,低見138.05元;中國移動(0941)於紐約市,股價走勢平穩。

匯豐控股於倫敦每股高見927.5便士,折合為139.7元;低見每股916.5便士,折合為138.05元;收報每股為922.5便士,折合為138.95元。

匯豐控股每份預託證券(ADR)高見90.07美元,折合每股140.46元;低見每份89.27美元,折合每股139.21元;收報每份89.95美元,折合每股140.32元;較本港收市140.1元,升0.22元。

中移動每份 ADR 高見42.12美元,折合每股65.68元;低見每份40.86美元,折合每股63.72元;收報每份41.96美元,折合每股65.43元;較本港收市65.45元,跌0.02元。:o:soldier::L

mmr.ren 2007-1-11 10:25

我諗又唔會 128 既, 如果係老虎都入!

mmr.ren 2007-1-11 10:44

低過 $140 咯依家.... 睇黎要尋一尋底

peninsula 2007-1-11 10:52

[quote]原帖由 [i]mmr.ren[/i] 於 2007-1-11 10:44 AM 發表
低過 $140 咯依家.... 睇黎要尋一尋底 [/quote]
Not enough. Must see $135 first. ;P:):hamsup::afraid::L:o

QQQQQ 2007-1-11 11:44

[quote]原帖由 [i]billy888[/i] 於 2007-1-10 02:45 PM 發表

3328 與 0005中的選擇?   


如有60000元, 要各位在0005及3328選一隻, 會如何? 謝:reading: [/quote]

我個人會選 #3328 , 如果買 #0005 , 你都係買到 1 手 , 即 400 股 , 一買一賣 , 手續費每股都要 $ 2.XX , 就算比你 #0005 升 $10.00 , 敢又點 , 你都係賺 $ 4,000 , 重未計手續費 , 扣埋得番 $3,1XX.00 , 對於匯控 P.E 同匯控增長幾乎差唔多計 , 股價真係叻極有限.....
:wondering::wondering::wondering:


#3328 , 未來 幾年內地增長一定好過其他地方 ,內地金融股點都跑贏及一定得益 , 當然可睇低小小先買貨.....:boxing::boxing::boxing:

[[i] 本帖最後由 QQQQQ 於 2007-1-11 11:46 AM 編輯 [/i]]

QQQQQ 2007-1-11 11:54

如果想買#0005 call 輪長擺重死 , 見到有網友買 d 今年 3 月尾到期 call , 又話溢價低又話盛 , #0005 於今年 3月 5 日 公佈末期業積 , 上年派息都每股派 $2.418  , 今年衰極都唔會相差太多 , 而亦應該約 3月 21 日左右除淨 .

就當你 #0005 到 3月尾重有 $ 140 , 今日hold隻輪去到3 月尾到期 , 你隻輪都會輸多 $ 0.2X 一股 , 一定變成負溢價 - 2.XX % , 自己要計清楚先好.....:nono::nono:

bingo 2007-1-12 00:32

Who dare to buy now?

peninsula 2007-1-12 11:18

[quote]原帖由 [i]bingo[/i] 於 2007-1-12 12:32 AM 發表
Who dare to buy now? [/quote]
I do - why not? :P;P:o:soldier:

leoxi 2007-1-12 17:05

[quote]原帖由 [i]peninsula[/i] 於 2007-1-12 11:18 AM 發表

I do - why not? :P;P:o:soldier: [/quote]

If it is for long term investment and you have lots of cash sitting around, then yes.  

If you only have around 60K, then you really need to think about it.

peninsula 2007-1-12 17:57

[quote]原帖由 [i]leoxi[/i] 於 2007-1-12 05:05 PM 發表
If it is for long term investment and you have lots of cash sitting around, then yes.  
If you only have around 60K, then you really need to think about it. [/quote]
As I stated, will start to buy @$135. ;P:P:):soldier::o
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