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unchi242x 2007-1-15 20:50

日本車和歐洲車之維修分別?

點解 D 人成日話日本車容易修理過歐洲車呢??  佢地話歐洲車個電腦成日有問題,咁難道日本車又無電腦嗎??

小弟部Audi A6 2.0T,so far,touch wood ,都重ok,可能仲新 la (大口).....希望ok la ....

百鬼夜行 2007-1-16 08:05

唔係壞腦,係唔識解腦 ..

xiazhai 2007-1-16 10:11

europe car is much better

WURTH 2007-1-16 11:07

香港咁熱, 日本車設計為亞洲氣候用, 你睇下歐洲車用d電線同日本車都好唔同. 好多歐洲車死係電線, 插頭, 好難跟.

Evo8 2007-1-16 11:11

有時間/有錢 - 買歐洲車
冇時間買 - 日本車

keibeast 2007-1-16 11:36

日本車工時平d, 歐洲車就貴d. 我不在家時, 我老婆攞架車出去整, 價錢嚇死我啦. 下次有事我都係買張機票仲有化算. 以前講過o既"安慰費".

unchi242x 2007-1-16 17:49

[quote]原帖由 [i]百鬼夜行[/i] 於 2007-1-16 08:05 AM 發表
唔係壞腦,係唔識解腦 .. [/quote]

點解會咁呢?

polonixm 2007-1-16 18:52

[quote]原帖由 [i]xiazhai[/i] 於 2007-1-16 10:11 AM 發表
europe car is much better [/quote]

list your arguments , facts pls... ;P

polonixm 2007-1-16 18:53

[quote]原帖由 [i]Evo8[/i] 於 2007-1-16 11:11 AM 發表
有時間/有錢 - 買歐洲車
冇時間買 - 日本車 [/quote]

#1 , 一箭中紅心!!!:verygood:

essthk 2007-1-19 12:07

I have 4 different German cars in the pass 3 years. This is what I have found.
Don't touch German Cars

1. MB E240. have it for 10 months and need to change the air-cond and brake systems twice. Break down on the road 3 times and service 9 times.

2. VW Touareg, Back to service after 7 days on the road. Gear box keep having funny noise and sold it after 9 months.

3. BMW 330i E90, back to service 9 time after using it for 9 months. break all my records. Still using it but will sell it after Chinese New Year for a LS460

Japanese cars that I have used before never give me any trouble. That is why I am waiting for my Lexus LS460 delivey now and sold the BMW

Japan 2007-1-19 12:24

[quote]Lexus LS460[/quote]

[color=Brown]自己渣 :wondering:
呢 D 車唔係請司機渣架咩 :wondering:[/color]

essthk 2007-1-19 17:23

If you are a car lover. You will not ask the driver to drive your car. I never use a driver on any of my personal car.

Update on the LS460. 5.6' 0-100km. faster than my BM330i 6' 0-100km .......Good. It even faster than a 997s

Jeff9394 2007-1-19 17:44

[quote]原帖由 [i]essthk[/i] 於 2007-1-19 17:23 發表
If you are a car lover. You will not ask the driver to drive your car. I never use a driver on any of my personal car.

Update on the LS460. 5.6' 0-100km. faster than my BM330i 6' 0-100km ...... ... [/quote]

Toyota RS200, Honda 某 D 新 款 車, 同 各 大 車 廠 某 D 頂 級 新 車 一 樣 多 野 壞 到 PK
問 題 出 係 太 多 電 子 野 同 sensor 到 或 同 你 好 唔 好 彩 有 關  :$

keibeast 2007-1-19 19:59

4600cc 唔快得過 3300cc 就要用更大的 engine

btw 好多人講買二手german car 唔 reliable, 咁唔知 brand new german car 又如何 ?

百鬼夜行 2007-1-19 22:06

[quote]原帖由 [i]keibeast[/i] 於 2007-1-19 07:59 PM 發表
4600cc 唔快得過 3300cc 就要用更大的 engine

btw 好多人講買二手german car 唔 reliable, 咁唔知 brand new german car 又如何 ? [/quote]

大cc唔定快架喎.. 睇下d力放係扭定馬架咋喎..仲有波箱呢...:blowme:

Jeff9394 2007-1-20 00:32

[quote]原帖由 [i]百鬼夜行[/i] 於 2007-1-19 22:06 發表


大cc唔定快架喎.. 睇下d力放係扭定馬架咋喎..仲有波箱呢...:blowme: [/quote]
重 有 車 重 同 架 車 定 位 係 咩 先 得
CC 大 就 快 咁 多 數 係 巴 士 最 快 ;P

講 開 呢 個 話 題.... 新 Camry 3.5 真 係 快 到 PK
FF 家 庭 房 車 係 香 港 試 車 0~100 都 做 6.5 秒 佢 都 Short 架
重 要 行 套 16 吋 雞 o太 食 唔 到 地 係 咁 跳 都 呢 個 時 間
呢 個 size 既 FF 家 庭 房 車 我 睇 都 係 佢 最 快
Volvo S80 T6 都 要 7 秒 左 右......
架 野 換 返 D 17 輕 鈴 加 跑 O太 可 能 6 秒 攪 點 :oh:

Jeff9394 2007-1-20 00:39

[quote]原帖由 [i]keibeast[/i] 於 2007-1-19 19:59 發表
4600cc 唔快得過 3300cc 就要用更大的 engine

btw 好多人講買二手german car 唔 reliable, 咁唔知 brand new german car 又如何 ? [/quote]

都 算 多 野 壞........ 由 其 係 雙 B
不 過 舊 LS400, President, Cima, 800M 唔 係 一 樣 咁 多 野 壞.....
睇 你 點 睇

好 似 聽 人 講 VAG D DSG 波 箱 都 好 似 開 始 有 野 壞
你 睇 日 本 Nissan 同 Honda CVT 波 箱 同 歐 洲 Alfa D F1 / BMW SMG 就 知 D 高 科 技 野
新 果 時 就 冇 得 頂 舊 果 時 就..........:oh:

xd118 2007-1-20 01:04

dddddddddddddddddddd

keibeast 2007-1-20 19:32

今日客串整左架上款 s320 2000's 比d電子野玩到頭都暈.

話說架野一撻個 airmatic 就升起, 我記得唔噤制s-class係唔會頂起的, shoot 左好耐, 都唔電, 走去借左第二架冇事個氣pump黎試, 一裝上去 mug事都冇. 當然就將有事果個解體一睇. 見到個pump o既 circuit board 度有好多 carbon dusts, 可能 ozone引起的, 用風槍吹乾淨再裝回去就 okay 左.

點解咁貴一架車d engineering唔可以做好d!!!

kafai928 2007-1-21 01:48

????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

essthk 2007-1-21 09:46

All the German is band new when I have it. Its just not good at all. I am going back to Japanese now.
Its not how much you pay for it. Its just not right these German  car. I have not mention my 4th car in above. Its a Porsche 997s band new only 10 months but back to service 6 times with 1 gear box change. 997s is my dream car and I will keep it but only use it on Sunday. However, for a 1.5 million car it is not acceptable for the type of trouble I have.

unchi242x 2007-1-21 10:24

不過好久之前,雲﹞G手BMW E36,真係整到PK,以為外國天氣無香港咁熱,部車都無咁易壞,一樣唔得,成日死火,以為油筆塞驉B換左又死火,以為D valve 要換、換左又死火,話可能個 idle valve 死驉B換左又死火,最後又換埋個airflow meter,先得,來來回回時間金錢....好景不常....A/C不久又死..... 之後見到BM都怕怕....

unchi242x 2007-1-21 10:24

不過好久之前,雲﹞G手BMW E36,真係整到PK,以為外國天氣無香港咁熱,部車都無咁易壞,一樣唔得,成日死火,以為油筆塞驉B換左又死火,以為D valve 要換、換左又死火,話可能個 idle valve 死驉B換左又死火,最後又換埋個airflow meter,先得,來來回回時間金錢....好景不常....A/C不久又死..... 之後見到BM都怕怕....

JJSS 2007-1-21 12:58

回復 #9 polonixm 的帖子

I have a old model passat (VW) which is almost 8 years. I am still driving it. Quite reliable. I have only paid for its normal maintenance for the past few years. I do n't think all European cars are unreliable.

jkjkelvin 2007-1-22 09:56

[quote]原帖由 [i]Jeff9394[/i] 於 2007-1-20 12:32 AM 發表

重 有 車 重 同 架 車 定 位 係 咩 先 得
CC 大 就 快 咁 多 數 係 巴 士 最 快 ;P

講 開 呢 個 話 題.... 新 Camry 3.5 真 係 快 到 PK
FF 家 庭 房 車 係 香 港 試 車 0~100 都 做 6.5 秒 佢 都 Short  ... [/quote]

呢架嘢好似成280ps...
但係ff...會唔會推到pk?

kkwong7606 2007-1-22 10:43

[quote]原帖由 [i]jkjkelvin[/i] 於 2007-1-22 09:56 AM 發表


呢架嘢好似成280ps...
但係ff...會唔會推到pk? [/quote]

Of course la, I am sure "推到pk"..:lol:lol:lol

Jeff9394 2007-1-22 11:06

[quote]原帖由 [i]jkjkelvin[/i] 於 2007-1-22 09:56 發表


呢架嘢好似成280ps...
但係ff...會唔會推到pk? [/quote]

一 定 推 頭 同 推 人 都 推 到 PK ;P

Jeff9394 2007-1-22 11:08

[quote]原帖由 [i]essthk[/i] 於 2007-1-21 09:46 發表
All the German is band new when I have it. Its just not good at all. I am going back to Japanese now.
Its not how much you pay for it. Its just not right these German  car. I have not mention my  ... [/quote]

你 玩 過 D 法 記 林 記 你 就 知 咩 叫 史 上 最 強 :quiet:

Jeff9394 2007-1-22 11:09

[quote]原帖由 [i]unchi242x[/i] 於 2007-1-21 10:24 發表
不過好久之前,雲﹞G手BMW E36,真係整到PK,以為外國天氣無香港咁熱,部車都無咁易壞,一樣唔得,成日死火,以為油筆塞驉B換左又死火,以為D valve 要換、換左又死火,話可能個 idle valve 死驉B換左又死火, ... [/quote]

我 覺 得 似 整 車 果 個 師 傅 有 問 題 多 個 架 車 :L

kkwong7606 2007-1-22 11:10

[quote]原帖由 [i]Jeff9394[/i] 於 2007-1-22 11:08 AM 發表


你 玩 過 D 法 記 林 記 你 就 知 咩 叫 史 上 最 強 :quiet: [/quote]

:givemefive::givemefive::givemefive:

I can image :$:$:$

and I can only image....:burst::burst::burst:

keibeast 2007-1-22 16:34

師傅教落: 有斷估冇痛苦

好多整車佬都係咁架啦, 最近我不在nz, 我老婆比架車個friend整, 換左d唔應該換o既野, 今日自己檢查發現佢鎖個hub nut太緊. 我唔怪佢因為佢整左 30幾年日本車, 唔話比人知都冇人知果粒野要半緊有0.02mm endfloat 就得.

百鬼夜行 2007-1-22 17:20

[quote]原帖由 [i]keibeast[/i] 於 2007-1-22 04:34 PM 發表
師傅教落: 有斷估冇痛苦

好多整車佬都係咁洵動\整左 30幾年日本車, 唔話比人知都冇人知果粒野要半緊有0.02mm endfloat 就得. [/quote]

下次返黎幫我整整架 E仔唔該 :bow:

unchi242x 2007-1-22 21:04

[quote]原帖由 [i]Jeff9394[/i] 於 2007-1-22 11:09 AM 發表


我 覺 得 似 整 車 果 個 師 傅 有 問 題 多 個 架 車 :L [/quote

I thought so at that time,不過自從果次都都BM個印象麻ma...,不過BM個呔感又真係好好feel...

unchi242x 2007-1-22 21:16

[quote]原帖由 [i]jkjkelvin[/i] 於 2007-1-22 09:56 AM 發表


呢架嘢好似成280ps...
但係ff...會唔會推到pk? [/quote]

Wa... 宜家FF車已去到3.5L 280ps,再過多几年,會唔會誇張到出現4.0L以上 V8 300ps+ 顄F車呢??  如果FF有成350ps或以上,你都唔好話唔騖車!

Jeff9394 2007-1-22 22:59

[quote]原帖由 [i]unchi242x[/i] 於 2007-1-22 21:16 發表


Wa... 宜家FF車已去到3.5L 280ps,再過多几年,會唔會誇張到出現4.0L以上 V8 300ps+ 顄F車呢??  如果FF有成350ps或以上,你都唔好話唔騖車! [/quote]

其 實 呢 度 都 有 架 差 唔 多 近 300ps 既 FF........
我 果 架 改 Chips 好 似 都 過 350ps..... :L

唔 好 問 我 楂 唔 楂 到 :lookaround:

keibeast 2007-1-23 09:38

[quote]原帖由 [i]百鬼夜行[/i] 於 2007-1-22 09:20 PM 發表


下次返黎幫我整整架 E仔唔該 :bow: [/quote]

有 mug 問題 ??

kkwong7606 2007-1-23 10:33

[quote]原帖由 [i]Jeff9394[/i] 於 2007-1-22 10:59 PM 發表

唔 好 問 我 楂 唔 楂 到 :lookaround: [/quote]

So fear wor.....:jaw::jaw::jaw:

keibeast 2007-1-23 13:16

[quote]原帖由 [i]unchi242x[/i] 於 2007-1-23 01:16 AM 發表


Wa... 宜家FF車已去到3.5L 280ps,再過多几年,會唔會誇張到出現4.0L以上 V8 300ps+ 顄F車呢??  如果FF有成350ps或以上,你都唔好話唔騖車! [/quote]

睇怕 FF V8 好難造得出黎, 條 U型DRIVE SHAFT會好唔耐用. 而且車的設計會主力會走電動車的路線 (唔係HYBRID). D馬力要幾大有幾大, TORQUE仲好 LINEAR TIM.到時係鬥個麼打有幾大.:hamsup:

百鬼夜行 2007-1-23 13:21

[quote]原帖由 [i]keibeast[/i] 於 2007-1-23 09:38 AM 發表


有 mug 問題 ?? [/quote]

身體檢查 :bow:

keibeast 2007-1-23 13:30

除左個電子呔尺, 同個波箱, V6 E240 好似冇MUG大問題,

百鬼夜行 2007-1-23 14:11

[quote]原帖由 [i]keibeast[/i] 於 2007-1-23 01:30 PM 發表
除左個電子呔尺, 同個波箱, V6 E240 好似冇MUG大問題, [/quote]

係冇咩問題.. 但年紀大都係 check 下佢好d

Jeff9394 2007-1-23 14:57

[quote]原帖由 [i]keibeast[/i] 於 2007-1-23 09:38 發表


有 mug 問題 ?? [/quote]

我 架 大 富 豪 又 要 ;P

Jeff9394 2007-1-23 15:07

[quote]原帖由 [i]keibeast[/i] 於 2007-1-23 13:16 發表

睇怕 FF V8 好難造得出黎, 條 U型DRIVE SHAFT會好唔耐用. 而且車的設計會主力會走電動車的路線 (唔係HYBRID). D馬力要幾大有幾大, TORQUE仲好 LINEAR TIM.到時係鬥個麼打有幾大.:hamsup: [/quote]

[size=5][b]2006 Chevrolet Monte Carlo[/b][/size][b]    V8 Front Wheel Drive Car[/b]
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/06-07_Chevrolet_Monte_Carlo.jpg/800px-06-07_Chevrolet_Monte_Carlo.jpg[/img]

The 2006 Monte Carlo (and the companion Impala sedan) were introduced at the 2005 Los Angeles Auto Show. The base engine is a 3.5 L V6 producing 210 hp (156kW). The most notable news about the model, though, is the SS model's use of the Generation IV small-block V8 in a front-wheel drive car for the first time. The new 5.3 L V8 will produce 303 hp (226 kW). The car is 55.8 in high, 72.9 in wide, and 196.7 in long (142 cm by 185 cm by 500 cm).

[b]Layout[/b] FF layout
[b]Platform [/b]GM W platform
[b]Engine[/b] 3.9 L LZ9 V6, 3.5 L LZE V6, 5.3 L LS4 V8
[b]Transmission[/b] 4-speed automatic overdrive
[b]Wheelbase[/b] 110.5 in.
[b]Length[/b] 196.7 in.
[b]Width[/b] 72.9 in.
[b]Height[/b] 55.8 in.
[b]Fuel capacity[/b] 17 gal.
[b]Related[/b] Chevrolet Impala

kkwong7606 2007-1-23 15:17

[quote]原帖由 [i]Jeff9394[/i] 於 2007-1-23 03:07 PM 發表


2006 Chevrolet Monte Carlo    V8 Front Wheel Drive Car
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/06-07_Chevrolet_Monte_Carlo.jpg/800px-06-07_Chevrolet_Monte_Carlo.jpg[/img]

The 200 ... [/quote]

Typical US made, BIG BIG power (5.3L V8 engine)...:lookaround::lookaround::lookaround:

[[i] 本帖最後由 kkwong7606 於 2007-1-23 03:18 PM 編輯 [/i]]

Jeff9394 2007-1-23 15:26

[quote]原帖由 [i]kkwong7606[/i] 於 2007-1-23 15:17 發表


Typical US made, BIG BIG power (5.3L V8 engine)...:lookaround::lookaround::lookaround: [/quote]

唔 知 楂 起 上 來 咩 FEEL ;P

kkwong7606 2007-1-23 15:39

[quote]原帖由 [i]Jeff9394[/i] 於 2007-1-23 03:26 PM 發表


唔 知 楂 起 上 來 咩 FEEL ;P [/quote]

Drifting...(if you are good skill).....:lol:lol:lol

Otherwise....:blowme::blowme::blowme:

keibeast 2007-1-23 16:43

[quote]原帖由 [i]Jeff9394[/i] 於 2007-1-23 06:57 PM 發表


我 架 大 富 豪 又 要 ;P [/quote]


VOLVO 係 FF, 好多 oxygen sensor 問題, 而且好鬼難換, 隻手大d都唔得.

keibeast 2007-1-23 18:25

[quote]原帖由 [i]kkwong7606[/i] 於 2007-1-23 07:39 PM 發表


Drifting...(if you are good skill).....:lol:lol:lol

Otherwise....:blowme::blowme::blowme: [/quote]


我唸佢係直路皇一架, 轉彎車頭會好吃力.

唔知用mug野合金造條 drive shaft,  呢架唔會係紙尿片車吧 ?:wondering:

unchi242x 2007-1-23 21:52

[quote]原帖由 [i]Jeff9394[/i] 於 2007-1-22 10:59 PM 發表


其 實 呢 度 都 有 架 差 唔 多 近 300ps 既 FF........
我 果 架 改 Chips 好 似 都 過 350ps..... :L

唔 好 問 我 楂 唔 楂 到 :lookaround: [/quote]

唔係化,咁"近".....

unchi242x 2007-1-23 22:00

[quote]原帖由 [i]Jeff9394[/i] 於 2007-1-23 03:07 PM 發表


2006 Chevrolet Monte Carlo    V8 Front Wheel Drive Car
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/06-07_Chevrolet_Monte_Carlo.jpg/800px-06-07_Chevrolet_Monte_Carlo.jpg[/img]

The 200 ... [/quote]


仲以為自己多嘴,原來真係有V8 FF 車...,意想不到....
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