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Gramma is important

Gramma is important

When we were young, we learnt gramma in school. Since 1973, if i remember right,  schools started not to teach gramma and the English level of the students dropped gradually. Our Grade D in English is much much better than those Grade B or C nowadays.Therefore I reckon that gramma books are essential.

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Yes. Grammar is important. I am younger than you and I know that your generantion's english is better than I. This is related to the Syllabus. Now, the student's vocabulary is lack. They exam syllabus A. It is much much easiler than 70's. The langauge policy is great influence the students english level. I study the Cert level with English textbook and use Cantonese teach. So, I can read but listening and oral are weak. Now, the most students use Chinese and Cantonese. Reading is weak. If we want the student have better english, using English textbook to study is better.

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原帖由 neiahyeah 於 2006-8-20 02:22 AM 發表
When we were young, we learnt gramma in school. Since 1973, if i remember right,  schools started not to teach gramma and the English level of the students dropped gradually. Our Grade D in English ...
For your information, it is not "schools started not to teach gramma ..."  but Education Department implemented a change in teaching English of dropping grammar and emphasising on the use of conversational English instead.  

Who is to blame ... the  Education Department  


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This is a casual forum and everybody is supposed to feel free to express himself/herself in English, so please don't mind making mistakes and you will not be "corrected" at once unless requested is received...

Of course, Chinlish and ICQlish are still highly discouraged right here...

I also made a mistake...!!

[ 本帖最後由 大田英明 於 2006-8-20 10:29 PM 編輯 ]
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原帖由 大田英明 於 2006-8-20 09:27 AM 發表
This is a casual forum and everybody is supposed to feel free to express himself/herself in English, so please don't mind to make mistakes and you will not be "corrected" at once unless r ...
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回復 #4 taurus 的帖子

Understood and concurred.
Westerners never learn gramma because English is their mother-tongue but we are not.
Any suggestions to help the nowadays students to beef up their English standard?
I think, gramma is the foundation of it.  I suggest parents should encourage their children to read gramma books and learn how they work.

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Watch "earl" and read lots of story books(e.g. short story, comics,etc.,). & Yes, do not leave out "Harry Potter"  !

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Reading (good books) is the best way to learn

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I had my seconardary schoollife in 1980's. As far as I can recall, there was no official lesson for us to learn English Grammar until Form Four. In Form Four, Our teachers taught us some English Grammar in the Lessons in order to fulfill the requirements in HKCEE syllabus B. We were also asked to buy and read a book something called 'English Grammar' published by ELBS. Actually, it was a good book and I treated it as a Bible accompanying me to pass through the journey of HKCEE.
無恃其不來, 恃吾有以待也; 無恃其不攻, 恃吾有所不可攻也.

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Does any body know if the book " A pen and a man ... " is still being used as English textbook in primary school ...
I'm a pipe-smoker ...

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d-graded or grade d? which one is correct or both?

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原帖由 FOX 於 2006-8-22 12:12 發表
d-graded or grade d? which one is correct or both?
Without a sentence and considering from only words, grade d is correct ...
I'm a pipe-smoker ...

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回復 #9 HeHaHoHey 的帖子

Your version saw the importance of Gramma......for good English

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回復 #10 有性格 的帖子

You must be an oldie.... I studied "a pen and a man... this is a pen and this is a man..." more than 50 years ago.

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回復 #10 有性格 的帖子

Your version saw the importance of Gramma....for good English

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回復 #11 taurus 的帖子

You must be an oldie.... I studied "a pen and a man... this is a pen and this is a man..." more than 50 years ago.

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原帖由 neiahyeah 於 2006-8-22 16:28 發表
You must be an oldie.... I studied "a pen and a man... this is a pen and this is a man..." more than 50 years ago.
Correct, absolutely correct ...

I may be old but still feel young at heart, haha ...
I'm a pipe-smoker ...

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原帖由 HeHaHoHey 於 2006-8-21 12:54 PM 發表
Reading (good books) is the best way to learn
Watching DVD is also helpful. We can select the English sub-title to help our listening. If don't undertstand, simply just re-play the section.

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The best way to improve one's English (or any other language for that matter) is by speaking it. Grammar is important, but if you're a fluent English speaker then most of the grammer just comes naturally.

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原帖由 taurus 於 2006-8-21 09:54 PM 發表
Does any body know if the book " A pen and a man ... " is still being used as English textbook in primary school ...
Ha Ha! Those were the days!!

I can still remember the text :
"A man. A pan.
A man and a pan. This is a man. This is a pan.
The man is holding the pan.
What is the man holding? The man is holding the pan."

The picture actually shows a Malay holding a frying pan (or may be a wok).

The book was used by primary schools in British colonies in Asia in early 60s or perhaps late 50s as well.

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原帖由 dd05ng 於 2006-8-24 20:17 發表



Ha Ha! Those were the days!!

I can still remember the text :
"A man. A pan.
A man and a pan. This is a man. This is a pan.
The man is holding the pan.
What is the man holding?  ...
Thank you brother dd05ng ...

You have a good memory or you may still have this book now ...  

This book was used by a majority of primary schools in late 50s and early 60s while we used another typical English book, John & Mary, in government primary schools.  

Yes, those were the days when we were too young to understand all kind of problems in life ... cheers to that...
I'm a pipe-smoker ...

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原帖由 taurus 於 2006-8-24 02:55 PM 發表


Thank you brother dd05ng ...

You have a good memory or you may still have this book now ...  

This book was used by a majority of primary schools in late 50s and early 60s ...
I haven't got the book - it's many many years ago!!

My memory is not good neither. These few sentences are all I can remember. Perhaps it's because I'd studied this book in three different schools. The first time was when I did my Primary 2 in a private school. Then I moved to a government primary school the year after. But I had to do P2 again because I was too young for a P3 class. So I studied this book again in P3 in the government primary school. (I remember that they did not teach English in P2 in government primary school during that time). Then during the summer in between P3 and P4, I went to attent an evening English course. The course was for adults and they used this same book as the main text. There were only  a few kids in the class, among 20-30 adults. I actually spent only a few days in the course and didn't turn up again. But that's already good enough to force me to memorize these few sentences.

You're right, those were the days when we were too young to understand all kinds of problems in life. I could still remember those people who went to attend the evening class after spending 10+ hours in their workplaces in day time - they were so eager to learn. In contrast, the 2-3 kids in the class (including myself) just kept wandering around in the playground and then disappeared after a few classes..


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Hi brother dd05ng,

There's a lot that we can talk about those good old days.

I started to study English at P.3 with a very nicely printed English story book "John & Mary". I have not come across "A Pen and A Man" then.

I was really serious in studying English when I was in my secondary schooling at a Taiwanese English secondary school standing notably opposite to China Light & Power at Argyle street.

My the then school master implemented a weekly lesson of English recitation in all classes from Form 1 to Form 5. His experience told him that it was an effective way to learn English well for Chinese students.

So, throughout all those 5 years of my secondary schooling, all students in a class had to be prepared to be picked to recite a piece of English essay chosen in advance by the teacher, the school master himself.

I would not my English is good but I worked for two foreign companies for almost 25 years and did not encounter difficulty in our daily communication.

Since I have longer leisure now than in the past, I like to share my past experience with everybody here.

I think brother dd05ng will not be different !

Welcome aboard and cheers to that ...
I'm a pipe-smoker ...

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回復 #24 taurus 的帖子

I strongly agree with your point that recitation is good.  It helps not only learning English but also improving the way of speaking.

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