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1^# 大中小發表於 2006-12-20 12:30 只看該作者

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BMW engine oil Problem

My BMW 3-series has engine oil low problem, the yellow warning light has come out almost every 3-4 months. When I went to BMW services centre, they keep saying checking and checking. There is NO oil leakage found, and finally they (BMW Services Centre) said it is normal???

Is there anybody has similar problem?

Is it normal as they (BMW) said??

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2^# 大中小發表於 2006-12-20 13:04 只看該作者

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I forgot to mention it is old version 3-series (E46), and it is only 1.5 years old only.

Can any Brother give me any suggestion

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3^# 大中小發表於 2006-12-20 13:17 只看該作者

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揾唔到邊度漏油仲大獲. 可能'簪'口漏再經死氣排出車外.

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4^# 大中小發表於 2006-12-20 13:42 只看該作者

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Thanks for your reply.

I have already left in BMW services Centre for few days, and they confirmed they have checked the Seal and cannot found.

The most annoying is finally BMW services centre said" It is normal"

If it is normal, they should tell me immediately. I have already returned the car to me 3-4 times to check

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5^# 大中小發表於 2006-12-20 15:47 只看該作者

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係呢年半你有冇換過油?

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6^# 大中小發表於 2006-12-20 17:44 只看該作者

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你多唔多爆高轉?
可唔可以講你係 E46 邊個 model
你死氣喉有冇煙? 如有....... 係咩色?
你有冇用人手 check 係唔係真係 engine oil 唔夠?
冇不如下次 check 下有就其實又夠唔夠呢?

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7^# 大中小發表於 2006-12-20 17:51 只看該作者

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原帖由 jkjkelvin 於 2006-12-20 03:47 PM 發表
係呢年半你有冇換過油?

BMW advising 1-year to change oil and I did it about 6-7 months ago (when my car is just about 1-year old) at BMW Servicing Centre.

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8^# 大中小發表於 2006-12-20 17:56 只看該作者

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原帖由 Jeff9394 於 2006-12-20 05:44 PM 發表
你多唔多爆高轉?
可唔可以講你係 E46 邊個 model
你死氣喉有冇煙? 如有....... 係咩色?
你有冇用人手 check 係唔係真係 engine oil 唔夠?
冇不如下次 check 下有就其 ...

Sometimes in high RPM for fun (but not much), ususally is normal driving.
BMW320 - 2,200 c.c. / 6-cylinders
NO white smoke coming out (both front and rear I have checked)
When we actually checked by oil ruler, it shows it is NOT enough

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9^# 大中小發表於 2006-12-20 20:25 只看該作者

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用錯engine oil 個evapouration valve壞左或 engine cooling唔到都會引致咬油,. valve stems, valve seals出事亦會出現大咬油. 如果係 cylinder head gasket leakage 可以check 下d死氣有冇油臭味, 又或者 coolant return reservoir會有 emulsified 油漬. engine compression test 都可以搵出internal leak o既問題.

e46咬油係正常的, 正常渣平均10000km 1 litre.

[ 本帖最後由 keibeast 於 2006-12-21 01:08 AM 編輯 ]

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10^# 大中小發表於 2006-12-21 12:56 只看該作者

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原帖由 keibeast 於 2006-12-20 08:25 PM 發表
用錯engine oil 個evapouration valve壞左或 engine cooling唔到都會引致咬油,. valve stems, valve seals出事亦會出現大咬油. 如果係 cylinder head gasket leakage 可以check 下d死氣有冇油臭味, 又或者 cool ...

BMW have already checked several times.

"e46咬油係正常的, 正常渣平均10000km 1 litre" Is it true or normal

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11^# 大中小發表於 2006-12-22 15:51 只看該作者

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seen you have mentioned "BMW service" in every single message.
i encountered the same thing b4 , but only got fixed in outside proshops (gasket problem).
so forget BMW (just a dealer) service & opt for outside, esp. if yours a used one , not brand new bought from them . \ie, warranty expired.

they charge way too much but their mechanics are ... average, c what i mean ?

take it as an advice... cheers.

[ 本帖最後由 polonixm 於 2006-12-22 03:53 PM 編輯 ]

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12^# 大中小發表於 2006-12-22 16:46 只看該作者

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原帖由 polonixm 於 2006-12-22 03:51 PM 發表
seen you have mentioned "BMW service" in every single message.
i encountered the same thing b4 , but only got fixed in outside proshops (gasket problem).
so forget BMW (just a dealer) ...

Becuse it is still under warranty that is why I going back.

I know their charge is very high, I supoosed Sime Darby is a big group and they are BMW dealer which should be more professional

Your B4 has same problem, and is it serious??

Anyway, thanks for your advice

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13^# 大中小發表於 2006-12-22 17:50 只看該作者

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i dont mean B4 , i mean before ...
sime darby is big, but the mechanic who handles your car may just a new guy from nowhere.
tats the problem with those dealer's workshop.

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14^# 大中小發表於 2006-12-22 18:08 只看該作者

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原帖由 polonixm 於 2006-12-22 05:50 PM 發表
i dont mean B4 , i mean before ...
sime darby is big, but the mechanic who handles your car may just a new guy from nowhere.
tats the problem with those dealer's workshop.

O ICIC. Thanks.

But just 818, what is your car?

Some friends said maybe high RPM caused the problem

And "Keibeast" siad it is normal to consume 1 litre per 10,000km

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15^# 大中小發表於 2006-12-22 18:12 只看該作者

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hi,
that was 3 years almost ago, tats a 318i of my wife.
i prefer jap. esp. toyota & honda.

now i got a elysion & a landcruiser cygnus.

however i 'm not that agree that an engine should consume that much e/g oil
per 10k kms... though..

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16^# 大中小發表於 2006-12-22 18:30 只看該作者

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landcruiser cygnus

I like it.

elysion

Sorry I don't know, what brand?

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17^# 大中小發表於 2006-12-27 12:49 只看該作者

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原帖由 polonixm 於 2006-12-22 05:50 PM 發表
i dont mean B4 , i mean before ...
sime darby is big, but the mechanic who handles your car may just a new guy from nowhere.
tats the problem with those dealer's workshop.

可能係真, 不過我估未必係. 如果頭一兩次, 可能reset左就算, d師傅仔唔係咁有經驗. 但係都三四次, 應該都好大問題, 大師傅出馬, 仲會同你試埋車. 係唔係荃灣呀, 冇咁差播. 你話要投訴, 一定整好!

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18^# 大中小發表於 2006-12-27 13:18 只看該作者

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原帖由 WURTH 於 2006-12-27 12:49 PM 發表

可能係真, 不過我估未必係. 如果頭一兩次, 可能reset左就算, d師傅仔唔係咁有經驗. 但係都三四次, 應該都好大問題, 大師傅出馬, 仲會同你試埋車. 係唔係荃灣呀, 冇咁差播. 你話要投訴, 一定整好!

Tokuwan workshop

But now they said it is normal, then nothing you can say, you can't even complain

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19^# 大中小發表於 2006-12-27 14:02 只看該作者

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e/g oil got vaporised in such a speed. normal ???
very very convincing indeed...

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20^# 大中小發表於 2006-12-27 14:07 只看該作者

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原帖由 polonixm 於 2006-12-27 02:02 PM 發表
e/g oil got vaporised in such a speed. normal ???
very very convincing indeed...

VERY Convincing

(more than 1 litres vaporised with 3-4 months)

Nothing I can say

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21^# 大中小發表於 2006-12-27 17:26 只看該作者

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forget it, sell it before it got worst.
u pay for the quality , not headaches ..

buy japs. may be...

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22^# 大中小發表於 2006-12-27 18:16 只看該作者

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唔好... 賣俾我..
唔好.. 賣俾我..
唔好. 賣俾我..
唔好賣俾我..

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23^# 大中小發表於 2006-12-27 23:26 只看該作者

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又打到中文啦

日本車的 operating temperature都係低ｄ的，　所以果ｄ因高溫氣化的油就少ｄ．　大部分的歐洲車引擎都是高溫ｄ，　咁氣化就多左，　流回crankcase就少ｄ，　見過有D車連個evaporation valve都冇就直接連去 throttle body潤滑順便燒埋. 以前整車時見過有架 C200改turbo, 就加個cooling can將d氣化左o既油condense之後從dipstick tube流回 crankcase

Mercedes 83-97 owner manual 有寫 oil consumption 係正常的. 用舊左重會多d, 如果係近期買e46咁新o既車, 應該唔會有咁嚴重o既問題.

不過好多時咬油都係因為piston rings 磨花左 cylinder所致. 如果係新車冇modified air cleaner又或者一撻車未上油就扮有型咁踩油, 應該唔會有d咁o既情況.

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24^# 大中小發表於 2006-12-28 11:38 只看該作者

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不過E D說話係米應該由SERVICE班友同車主講....
"老細....唔好意思呀.....可能內傷worrrrr...""

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25^# 大中小發表於 2006-12-28 11:55 只看該作者

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原帖由 keibeast 於 2006-12-27 11:26 PM 發表
又打到中文啦

日本車的 operating temperature都係低ｄ的，　所以果ｄ因高溫氣化的油就少ｄ．　大部分的歐洲車引擎都是高溫ｄ，　咁氣化就多左，　流回crankcase就少ｄ，　見過有D車連個evaporation ...

Thanks for your professional advice

"不過好多時咬油都係因為piston rings 磨花左 cylinder所致" the chance of this reason is Big

How I can identify? Or the only thing is asking workshop to check again?

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