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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-12 22:07 發表
I know your value.  Wake up from your cyber portfolio.

Sweet cyber dream to you too!

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-12 10:13 PM 發表

Sweet cyber dream to you too!

You want me to quote the examples in this forum of your cyber trades.  I have long memories and I track most trades for the thinly traded stock that I mentioned here.  You want me to link the old post to what you say recently.  If you tell a lot of lies, sometimes you tend to forget what you had said.

Fantasy doesn't make you money.  But if you get a kick out of this, please continue.

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-12 10:12 PM 發表

Don't be a jerk. If it is true, just give me a broker's name and I will call the firm and/or person to place an auction price after 9:45am. I already asked my contacts today!:di ...

I don't use discount brokers.  You probably can't afford mine.

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-12 22:19 發表
You want me to quote the examples in this forum of your cyber trades.  I have long memories and I track most trades for the thinly traded stock that I mentioned here.  You want me to link the ...

I don't want to boast but you do have a BIG ego. I don't need to do cyber trades and I do have 5 active accounts. Just don't insult your own intelligence!

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-12 22:22 發表
I don't use discount brokers.  You probably can't afford mine.

As a matter of fact, I use both kinds. For the record, these are my brokers :

HSBC
Core Pacific
Hantec
Chief
Win Wong

Tai Fook (inactive)

For US stocks, I use Boom.

For leveraged currencies and gold, I use Tai Fook.

Yes, I cannot afford yours but I don't need to use them ...

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-12 22:19 發表
You want me to quote the examples in this forum of your cyber trades.  I have long memories and I track most trades for the thinly traded stock that I mentioned here.  You want me to link the ...

Please QUOTE. I like to know  too.

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-12 10:27 PM 發表

I don't want to boast but you do have a BIG ego. I don't need to do cyber trades and I do have 5 active accounts. Just don't insult your own intelligence!

Don't side track on the ego shit.  I am talking about the cyber trade.  That trades that you did after 4 pm.  That you got in $XX (day low).....  Wonder if Jockey club let me bet on Race 1 after Race 10 was run.

Want me to quote an example of what you said six months ago on your "trade" of #197 and what you said 2 weeks ago?

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-12 22:35 發表
Don't side track on the ego shit.  I am talking about the cyber trade.  That trades that you did after 4 pm.  That you got in $XX (day low).....  Wonder if Jockey club let me bet on Race 1 afte ...

What did I say on #197? Pls refresh my memory. In fact, I still have 20K.

When the hell did I say I can trade after 4pm? Are you out of your mind?

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-12 22:35 發表
That you got in $XX (day low)..

I am not so lucky. I hardly ever can get in at day low or out at day high with exceptions. You need to be very smart to do that. With auction prices, you can get in at day low provided the stocks keep on rising. Today, there are several examples ie. #569, #139, #885.

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-12 22:07 發表
I know your value.  Wake up from your cyber portfolio.

Today, #224 is out of favour so I will place orders tomorrow for @$0.9.

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原帖由 eatallcheesecak 於 2007-7-12 10:39 發表
The auction price for 569 was at 2.50 at around 9:45, and I should have placed a bet on it by looking its price right now.
Again, I sold my 2020 IPO one day behind or one day too early.

I like to know if other brothers/sisters can place auction prices after 9:45am?? Anyone tried and succeed?

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-11 17:38 發表
Forget about them lar.
The best IPO EVER is the one today.  #569.
Allocation is around 7% and price has gone up 47%.  
As as usual, I picked the wrong one today - #825 with 4% alloca ...

Since you are expert on so many things, where do you think GOLD is heading? I just executed several PUT contracts at $668.

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-12 10:52 PM 發表

Since you are expert on so many things, where do you think GOLD is heading? I just executed several PUT contracts at $668.

Don't put words into my mouth - I never claimed to be an expert on so many things, in particular predicting the market, currency, bullion....  In fact, I always said in this forum that today's price is the right price, when you have a willing buyer and a willing seller.  So you have a 50/50 chance of winning/losing.  Good luck on your gold trade.

I claim to be an expert on the rules for things that I deal with and I don't 9up without having done it myself first hand.  For things like auction trade at what they call "pre-order matching period" - 9:45 am to 9:50 am, where I have done 100 trades and ocassionally paid tuition fees, I am not only an expert but a Master of it.

Are the bids or asks bounded to be executed within the "pre-order matching period 9:45am - 9:50am" if matching can be made?

Thanks.

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原帖由 eatallcheesecak 於 2007-7-13 08:46 AM 發表
Are the bids or asks bounded to be executed within the "pre-order matching period 9:45am - 9:50am" if matching can be made?

Thanks.

can't fully understand your question but I guess the answer would be -

the matching will be made for the volume at the cutoff at 9:50 am sharp.    And it all depends on the volume on each side.  Eg. if bid = 100K, and offer = 150K, 100K will be matched and if the balance 50K is auction order, it will be automatically cancelled but if they are limit order, they will remain on board and carry thru to 10 am.

If your question is about the timing, no, the matching won't happen during that 5 min. as one can put in more auction orders until 9:49:59

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-12 23:22 發表
Don't put words into my mouth - I never claimed to be an expert on so many things, in particular predicting the market, currency, bullion....  In fact, I always said in this forum that today's  ...

Thanks and let's stop this kind of bickering.

I guess you are right. Always willing buyers & sellers. I have been lucky on most cross currencies leveraged contracts and have made more from them than the stock market. All are CALLS and they are GBP/JPY, GBP/CHF and AUD/JPY. I was down over $100K per contract in March due to carry trade and JPY getting to 115 vs. USD but have recovered as I have CALL contracts and can wait out (no need to pay interest as in PUT).

I asked a simple question as I cannot execute online. Must they be done manually via a live broker?

Thanks again.

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-13 09:05 發表
can't fully understand your question but I guess the answer would be -
the matching will be made for the volume at the cutoff at 9:50 am sharp.    And it all depends on the volume on each si ...

This is another confusion point. For all the auction orders I have placed thus far, they will ALL become "at-limit" orders if not matched. That's what happened at HSBC, Hantec and Chief which I am 100% sure. They don't get "canceled".

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-13 09:06 AM 發表


Thanks and let's stop this kind of bickering.

I guess you are right. Always willing buyers & sellers. I have been lucky on most cross currencies leveraged contracts and have made more fr ...

Sure.  I am losing my shirt with my long EUR/YEN.  I gained 16 trades in a row by range trade, and this one loss is many times over that 16 gains.

I stopped using internet trade with banks, esp Hang Seng which is hopeless.  A normal order put in at 9:40 am didn't get on board until 10:15 am and they claimed they had X thousand trades in the pipeline, ...  and this is not one-off ocassion.

I made a lot of easy money via this auction trades preying on the wrong orders, or I guess for brokers who execute for overseas clients who gave them market order and didn't give a damn on the price.  So 9:45 am to 9:50 is a very important trading period for me.

Thankyou for your explanation, a little bit complicated for me though.

I have the same experience with the banks' automated phone system.

One did cancell my pre-opening order after opening , one not.

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-13 09:12 AM 發表


This is another confusion point. For all the auction orders I have placed thus far, they will ALL become "at-limit" orders if not matched. That's what happened at HSBC, Hantec and Chi ...

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-13 09:15 發表
Sure.  I am losing my shirt with my long EUR/YEN.  I gained 16 trades in a row by range trade, and this one loss is many times over that 16 gains.
I stopped using internet trade with banks,  ...

HSBC can be frustrating too (cannot log in at all sometimes during heaving trading).

I am still intrigue by the 9:45am to 9:50am window. Do you place orders on-line? Pls tell me which firm you use.

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-13 09:12 AM 發表


This is another confusion point. For all the auction orders I have placed thus far, they will ALL become "at-limit" orders if not matched. That's what happened at HSBC, Hantec and Chi ...

You probably placed the auction limit order as opposed to the auction order which has a higher priorty than the former.

One word of caution for first time user of auction trade, especially the less popular counters and especially when you look at the IEP at 9:44:XX.  That very often is a hoax, and the bidder/offeror will withdraw before the 9:45 cutoff.   You may end up buying at a much higher price or selling at a much lower price than you when you put your order in.  You should put in a small order to have a taste of it, and very often you pay a little tuition fee to learn the trick before you trick others.

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-13 09:44 發表
You probably placed the auction limit order as opposed to the auction order which has a higher priorty than the former. ...

Any comment on #310? Pls reply to the other thread.

Regarding Aution Trade, I don't understand how they work. For example;;;;

Bid :   $8  = 20k   ;   $6 =15K     ;        $4  =40K

Offer :  $10  =10K   ;     $5  =  22k    ;      $7  =14K @limited order.

What will be matching price and the volumn at    9.50 hours

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原帖由 lafite2004 於 2007-7-13 10:15 AM 發表
Regarding Aution Trade, I don't understand how they work. For example;;;;

Bid :   $8  = 20k   ;   $6 =15K     ;        $4  =40K

Offer :  $10  =10K   ;     $5  =  22k    ;      $7  =14K @limit ...

This is a wrong example.  Give us one that where bid & offer, then +1/-1, then we can explain.