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XOCAT, make sure you read this thread before making a judgement

XOCAT, make sure you read this thread before making a judgement

http://59.188.23.239/f/thread-130293-1-1.html

You are a reasonable person.  Don't let me down.

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First, a remark by a member, feverboydi (who we don't know who he is)

"how come he can do that ???
is that fare for us ???
he posted a link of man169.com adv for members.

http://forum.timway.com/f/thread-127930-1-1.html

1. ÄY¸T«Å¶Ç/³sµ²¨ä¥L»P¥»°Q½×°Ï©Ê½è¬Û¦P¤§½×¾Â©Î°Q½×°Ï :
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¥Ç¤W­z¤§ª©³WªÌ·|³Q§Y®É¸T¨¥¦Ó¤£°µ¥ô¦ó³qª¾¡C "

Then, the stupid guy replied:

"´M±ß§A´£¥X«á§Ú¤w¥ß§Y§R¥h, ¤Ï¦Ó§A¤Þ§Ú­ì¤å§A¦Ü¤µ¤´¨S¦³§R¥h."

Why need to be deleted as well?  Don't want to disclose his stupidity?

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¡u®t¤H¥Çªk§r! ®t¤H¥´¤H§r¡v¥i~~~ "

What kind of attitude is that?  He doens't have concrete evidence to say this member is a so-called ¤Æ¨­, so, he is initiating an argument or personally attacking people.  So, he has to be fucking banned!

And Tungpo said:-

"·|­ûªº³d¥ô¥u¦b«ü¥X¨Æ¹ê¡A¦Ó¥L¤Þ¥Î¤å³¹ªº¤º®e¤]¬O¨Æ¹êªº¤@³¡¤À¡CÄ~Äò«O¯d¥i¥H§@¬°ÃÒ¾Ú¡C

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Who do you think about it?  Well, however, if that's your instruction, I've nothing to say.


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Why need to be deleted as well?  Don't want to disclose his stupidity?
Ú»§A,³£­øÃѱo¥Îneutral term, ¥Ç¤F¤@¿ù´Nµ¥©óstupidity?

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¦³¨S¦³concrete evidence¥h§åµû¤H, ¾Ú batman, ¬O¥Î¨Ó§PÂ_¬O§_personal attack.
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¦b§A¦Û¤v¶}ªºthread, §A´¿°d½|xocat:

http://forum.timway.com/f/viewth ... =page%3D&page=4

post #112:

"Fuck you Bxxxxx (­ì¤å¥þ¦r), that's why xocatII forum now is so fucking mess up.  it's really your fault."

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¤ß²´? it's simple.  i am pinpointing you, and yes, always pinpointing you.  clear?

you don't have to produce a lot of evidence to show how i reacted in previous post.  and you don't have to display everything on how i criticize xocat.  i did say such things, and i apologized to xocat on my bad words.  but, that's the way i critize people.  i don't have to deny.  it's only a matter of accept or not.

xocat is reasonable.  he accepts recommendations.  he is good in the sense he accepts criticisms as well, of course in some extent only.  but look at you.  you only keep others records to defend your stupidity.  the forum here is bigger than the world!  

i don't give a damn on how many words you write.  whatever you say, to me it's just a bullshit.  you play with words, you play with arguments, just to defend how stupid you are.  

anyway, let xocat decides.  if he thinks i have to be banned, then go ahead.  if not, i'm still fine to manage my tiny retail sub-forum and the hidden area, with no more arguments with others.......but except you.

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and mind you.  i can write anything inside my own blog.  and it's my own business.  i regret i didn't fxxk you hard in my personal area.

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wow, what a handsome, smart, beautiful remark!  you're my man! :bird:

i don't care the reason behind, and i don't care who is right or wrong.  the thing is, the manner of this moderator is definitely bad.  and it projects a bad image to the forum......


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just take some points to reply, no interest to read everything.

1. yes, i damage forum image because i use bad words.
2. yes, if you have reason, you can comment.  but as a moderator, your manner is bad.
3. quoteº|, not quoteº|, i don't know what you are talking about.  but please don't explain.
4. point a finger at.....pinpoint.....what9ever la.
5. "§Ú¦b®á®³ªO¤£·|³oºØ»y®ð, §Ú¤w¹ï¸Ñú¨°ÝÃD°µ¤F§Ú¤@¤èÀ³°µªº," you didn't change, whitekitty.  you do some flavors to others, and you always expect someone to thank you.  otherwise, you'll be getting mad and start to make your record for future defense.

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you didn't change, whitekitty.  you do some flavors («Yfavour)to others, and you always expect someone to thank you. ...
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always? «Y«§? §Ú´M¤é¦Pª©¤Í½Õ¯º­ø±o¬[?.
ha ha ha.  you should have said this earlier ma.  then sorry for the wrong judgment on you wor.  hor hor hor.

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how much do you know about this issue?

and don't relate to what 814 or 917, it's a separate issue.  my argument on moderator manner to members, and nothing else.

if you could tolerate a moderator putting bad manner on you, that's your issue.  but i can't.



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okokok, let's stop 'make small things big la' (my English no good wor).

i'm wrong, okay?  §Ú´M¤é¦Pª©¤Í½Õ¯º­ø±o¬[?Ê\ª¾«Yª±¯ºØ{.



you make my day.

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okokok, let's stop 'make small things big la' (my English no good wor).

i'm wrong, okay?  §Ú´M¤é¦Pª©¤Í½Õ¯º­ø±o¬[?Ê\ª¾«Yª±¯ºØ{.



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