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原帖由 xocatII 於 2010-11-3 10:35 PM 發表
you might not know, I have tried to be very careful in this case.  
筆突，紅豆沙 are my friends that I care.  we even have phone of each other to talk about the forum.  I've asked 紅豆沙 about changi ...

首先，我同你唔係friend，
第二，你從來都無一個合理的解釋，
第三，你鍾意點就點啦。

HJ2127_ATR1其實係咪就係xocat呢, 而家!!

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原帖由 xocatII 於 2010-11-3 22:35 發表
you might not know, I have tried to be very careful in this case.  
筆突，紅豆沙 are my friends that I care.  we even have phone of each other to talk about the forum.  I've asked 紅豆沙 about changi ...

XOCATII,

You stated your case. Fair enough.

I am not convinced that your decision is right.
The appointment of boardmasters is your prerogative, but you are perversely unfair.

Perhaps you may care to tell us what was the dire need for such a drastic move.
Who and what forced you to make a difficult decision?

One last thing, whilst not expecting you to be answerable to any of us, I hope you will appreciate that open and good communication would help with you administration.

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原帖由 紅豆沙 於 2010-11-3 22:56 發表

首先，我同你唔係friend，
第二，你從來都無一個合理的解釋，
第三，你鍾意點就點啦。

please be polite here.
personal attack is strictly prohibited here.
I feel personal attack by both butt and you and so I have to make this decision.  (both in phone talk and messages in this forum)

I want to state again that you've been very helpful.  Though helpful should be polite as well.  

Ok, personal attack is the reasonable explanation.  I don't like to make it public.  I already mentioned in phone talk.  I feel embarrassed to point it out here.  

Be polite in both sides, and both will be respected.  If I make mistakes, all people need to be politely told.

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原帖由 happycamel 於 2010-11-4 14:22 發表


XOCATII,

You stated your case. Fair enough.

I am not convinced that your decision is right.
The appointment of boardmasters is your prerogative, but you are perversely unfair.

Perhaps y ...

simply put: impolite.
in forum rules/terms: personal attack.  
- suddenly shout at me and put off the phone without letting the conversation continue.

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原帖由 xocatII 於 2010-11-4 16:59 發表


I feel personal attack by both butt and you

Would you state clearly in which thread and which sentenance that I personal attacked you or
somebody else, please?

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原帖由 xocatII 於 2010-11-4 17:05 發表


simply put: impolite.
in forum rules/terms: personal attack.  
- suddenly shout at me and put off the phone without letting the conversation continue.

What a pathetic reply!! (This is a comment, a statement of my opinion.)

I would expect evidence, as you previously insisted.

Your are now making accusations by referring to private conversation.

If you do things in the dark, you have to prepare yourself with something solid when the dawn comes.

What I see from your reply is that you find the three removed board masters helpful but for some reasons you want to have them removed.  You then accused them of being impolite to you in private conversations.  So you make a "difficult" decision.

I, as an ordinary member of the forum, expect and demand an Administrator who is and is seen to be fair.

Mind you, do not point your finger at me and shout "Personal Attack".

The ball is in your court, again.

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原帖由 xocatII 於 2010-11-4 17:05 發表


simply put: impolite.
in forum rules/terms: personal attack.  
- suddenly shout at me and put off the phone without letting the conversation continue.

我就唔係為挑戰你而來既, 我係為xocat默哀而來既
大版主要既係擦鞋仔, xocat點會唔死落去, 而家我真係叫朋友來, 佢地都厭呢度人氣弱呀
點似得以前xocat響現實生活都有影響力咁利害呀

唔係人地強左, 係xocat 弱左, 當一班擦鞋仔成幫成派後, 敗局已定, 我一早就放長雙眼睇有乜野結局架啦
而家中曬啦, 如果大版主真係獨立於呢班擦鞋仔以外, 唔該睇睇邊班人係一組, 邊班人先話要廢其他版主
之後, 除左鹹版, 成個xocat有幾多post

最後想講既係, 既然有人咁想做, 無問題架
最緊要係成績, 如果硬係要霸人地既野做, 咪比個限期0羅, 一個月好兩個月好, 唔得唔止要免去版主之職, 仲要免埋所有xocat職務

其意有二,
一. 沒破釜沈舟之心, 如何能成功, 如沒破釜沈舟之心, 為乜霸其他人職務, 唔係為麻目爭權, 為乜
二. 所有商業成功既運作, 都係咁既做法, 如果xocat仲想響論壇界佔一個位, 麻煩攪好d, 如果唔想的話, 唔該早d close佢, 唔好令我地呢d支持左十年既人失望, 版主如果搵到邊個早過小弟入xocat, 仲要而家還是活躍會員, 記得通知一聲

唉.......又黎過......

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原帖由 happycamel 於 2010-11-4 18:31 發表


What a pathetic reply!! (This is a comment, a statement of my opinion.)

I would expect evidence, as you previously insisted.

Your are now making accusations by referring to private conversat ...

Last visit on 2010-11-04

I show due respect with patience.

what happened

支持唔易做, 筆突, 紅豆沙！

無上泥兩個月攪的咁既野！想當年(5-7年前)幾高人氣！唉.............

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原帖由 happycamel 於 2010-11-8 14:28 發表


Last visit on 2010-11-04

I show due respect with patience.

Rung the bell again.

Good News :

XOCATII finally logged on at 1736 hours today.

BAD NEWS :

NO RESPONSE YET!

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原帖由 happycamel 於 2010-11-11 21:39 發表
Good News :

XOCATII finally logged on at 1736 hours today.

BAD NEWS :

NO RESPONSE YET!

Maybe he is too busy, or unaware.

PM-ed.

Respectfully awaiting.

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原帖由 筆突 於 2010-11-4 17:51 發表




Would you state clearly in which thread and which sentenance that I personal attacked you or
somebody else, please?

hey friend, if I have to find it out, that would be embarrassing for both of us.

anyway, I admit that personal attack is a mild one.  that's about [url=space.php?username=HJ2127_ATR1]HJ2127_ATR1[/url] that keep on monitoring which 版主 won't online.  And you say something about it.  And you mentioned the story that no matter who is right or wrong, you must not 得罪 the big guy, otherwise, no matter you are right, you will get fired or bad.  I feel bad about it.  Though comparatively, [url=space.php?username=HJ2127_ATR1]HJ2127_ATR1[/url] is more polite and won't 單打.  this is the culture that most forums should obey.  Exactly speaking, you're not attack.  it is a mild 單打 one.  Normally, I will have one eye open and one eye close cause I do allow people to voice out different opinions so that I can improve.  However, since [url=space.php?username=HJ2127_ATR1]HJ2127_ATR1[/url] also contribute to that board and he seems to give me some polite constructive ideas, in this case, I have to make a difficult decision.  

hope you understand me.  this is really a hard decision.

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原帖由 bridgehead 於 2010-11-10 19:47 發表
支持唔易做, 筆突, 紅豆沙！

無上泥兩個月攪的咁既野！想當年(5-7年前)幾高人氣！唉.............

actually, their contribution is enormous.

However, I have to choose.  So, I choose the more polite one without 單打 anybody.

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原帖由 kenny01 於 2010-11-5 10:18 發表


我就唔係為挑戰你而來既, 我係為xocat默哀而來既
大版主要既係擦鞋仔, xocat點會唔死落去, 而家我真係叫朋友來, 佢地都厭呢度人氣弱呀
點似得以前xocat響現實生活都有影響力咁利害呀

唔係人地強左, 係xocat ...

i don't need a 擦鞋仔.   I don't want a 擦鞋仔.  
so, I admit this is a difficult decision.

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原帖由 happycamel 於 2010-11-4 18:31 發表


What a pathetic reply!! (This is a comment, a statement of my opinion.)

I would expect evidence, as you previously insisted.

Your are now making accusations by referring to private conversat ...

for the private conversation:
just ask red bean if she has suddenly put down my phone or not.  

I have no intention/motivation to make those who contribute a lot to feel bad.  That is a stupid decision.  However, giving a lot of contribution does not mean that you can be impolite to others.  this is stupid to ask those contributed a lot to leave.   does it make sense?

think of it!  

I repeat.  that's a difficult decision.  I have to choose one who is rating of 89 and rating of 96.  Which one will you choose?  very difficult.

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原帖由 紅豆沙 於 2010-11-3 22:56 發表

首先，我同你唔係friend，
第二，你從來都無一個合理的解釋，
第三，你鍾意點就點啦。

if you see the above, that's already very impolite.  

I've already given the best explanation: shout at me during the conversation and suddenly drop the phone.

xocatII, 我不明白點解Soccer Gambling『足球博彩/賭波』點解要只有一個單一版主HJ2127_ATR1呢?
我一向玩開筆突同紅豆沙個亞洲讓球盤擂臺好多年架喎! 依家無得玩
睇番今日嘅HJ2127_ATR1 做來做去都喺同佢咁多年一様嘅估估下張貼區之嘛! 一模一様都唔好玩嘅, 估估下張貼區一向不及亞洲讓球盤擂臺架啦!
點解不能保留筆突同紅豆沙個亞洲讓球盤擂臺呢? 起碼多元化些呢?

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原帖由 xocatII 於 2010-11-11 23:07 發表


if you see the above, that's already very impolite.

I've already given the best explanation: shout at me during the conversation and suddenly drop the phone.

xocatII, 好好奇, 點解紅豆沙會擲你電話呢?
你到底做咗咩呢?
我網上見xocatII你都好有禮貌,
喺咪你話要辭咗紅豆沙, 所以紅豆沙擲你電話呢?
還是紅豆沙擲你電話所以你辭咗紅豆沙?
咁紅豆沙擲你電話, 做咩要辭埋同筆突同唔易做呢?

可否留番三個其中一個, 等網友有得玩亞洲讓球盤擂臺呢?

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原帖由 arsonhongkong 於 2010-11-11 23:52 發表


xocatII, 好好奇, 點解紅豆沙會擲你電話呢?
你到底做咗咩呢?
我網上見xocatII你都好有禮貌,
喺咪你話要辭咗紅豆沙, 所以紅豆沙擲你電話呢?
還是紅豆沙擲你電話所以你辭咗紅豆沙?
咁 ...

I want to know the reasons as well.  The conversation is : I keep asking and asking...
anyway, just ask red bean.  she is impolite in this thread as well.  So, privately, publicly.

I don't want to: 辭咗紅豆沙.  
Though in this case, I have to choose.  If I have a chance, I want them all.  However, 紅豆沙 do not let me to do it.  I hope all 4 of them can be 版主 to make all people happy.  However, 紅豆沙 don't let me.  So, I have to choose.  

For your ideas you want to keep on the game, please suggest to:
HJ2127_ATR1

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原帖由 xocatII 於 2010-11-12 09:43 發表


I want to know the reasons as well.  The conversation is : I keep asking and asking...
anyway, just ask red bean.  she is impolite in this thread as well.  So, privately, publicly.

I don't wa ...

You just keep saying that you are forced to make a choice between one who is more constructive (and more polite) and three who are helpful but less constructive (and allegedly impolite).

I asked you who and what forced you to make a choice.  You say nothing.

What would you expect someone who is aggrieved by your action and annoyed by your unconvincing explanation to react when you tried to sort things out in private?

You are like a brick wall (a feeling I got with you from experience)  and I could understand the frustration in "reasoning" with you.

As I see it, the Soccer Board had all along been fine before your big and heavy hand knocked three board masters out.

As I said, you are not wrong.  You are just perversely unfair to the three removed board masters.

[ 本帖最後由 happycamel 於 2010-11-12 19:22 編輯 ]

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原帖由 happycamel 於 2010-11-12 19:21 發表


You just keep saying that you are forced to make a choice between one who is more constructive (and more polite) and three who are helpful but less constructive (and allegedly impolite).

I aske ...

the force is:
1. they want to be 版主.
2. they can't coexist.  (because they refuse to)
3. so I have to choose.