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OIL remain is dereased, and «æ»Ý¥Ûªo ...so OIL arise.... but all we know ªü©Ô´µ¥[also contain oil ....but develop it cost high ....so «æ»Ý¥Ûªo i think is depend on $$$

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then need to compete with others  to enter to US ²£«~³£­n¦V¥~·G»ù¶É¾P....
all developing countries face this problem .....u have solution to solve it ma ?
i know ppl also alert it .....to suggest ban world trade....


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i know ¶×»ù is need to rise ...but control in a reasonable level... and cant agree with US pressure to up rising.....
u know what is ³g±oµL¹½?  and all the world countries also use methods to control it ....so large change ¶×»ù also let
other countries ¶×»ù change immediately


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but reaction is weak.... they also cant to solve it ...
but... at least the can let a large range of ppl can satisfy the willing of EATING
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but under world trade ...also developing cuntries also increase sale for foreign..
if u need to count... may be after civil war ...china enter to trade with others...
then u know ¥@¬É¶T©ö¤¤©Ò¦û¤ñ¨Òöt¤É.... let we see ...also the "sale volume" also increase in every years From each countries ... only 100% ...if one who never enter into it ....after competing with others.... the percentage of each countries also derease....(Comparative advantage and absolutely advantage)
just like securities market .....USA also the largest in the world but the percentage it capture in the world are also derease

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but c + i + G + X - M = GDP  ¼W¥[¤º³¡®ø¶O =C increase ...if investment decrease is larger than C ...GDP ALSO decrease lor
besides, ¼W¥[¤º³¡®ø¶O  not totally represent increasing living standard ...¼W¥[¤º³¡®ø¶O½Í¦ó®e©ö? u say ¤j³°¯Ê¥FÂåÀø¡B±Ð¨|¡K¡Kµ¥ºÖ§Q ....if u are investor, u can invest in it ga ...not only have chance to earn $ , but also solve problem
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¤¤°ê³f¦V¥~·G»ù¶É¾P¥þ¥@¬É... also others  same as us ...·G»ù¶É¾P is because china also invest less on hi-tech ...odm etc
all things we do are easy to copy and need high manpower .... but salary compare with US are low ...
so it can ·G»ù¶É¾P ...but recent china ppl salary increase immediately ....so i AFRAID ·G»ù¶É¾P HARD TO USE Later
but CHINA have nothing to increase the instinisc value of our product.... HOW TO COMPETE WITH OTHERS ?

i agree ³f¹ô¶×»ù¨ä¹ê¨ÃµL©Ò¿×¦X²z¤ô¥­ (reasonable level)¡Abut ¥@¬É¤W©Ò¦³¥D­n³f¹ô³£¤£·|¥Ñ¬F©²±±¨î i dont thinnk so
buy US Loan can support US... also b4 1980s ¬F©² also have ±±¨î ¨Ñ¨D ....but soros defeat bristish once ...
¬F©²¥[®§´î®§«Y¹ï³f¹ô¥«³õªº¦^À³ ...i think it is one kind of ¤â¬q to control lor ...too many method govt can use ...
just like govt have some chirman to say the price is reasonable... the ¼Ó«ö is no problem ... call ppl who have power to infect the ³f¹ô¶×»ù to stop talking... alert ppl to buy share like 911 ....etc

i say the control is this .... may be i write b4 is not clear
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but ¤¤°ê¬F©²´¡¤â±±¨î¶×»ù only make it flexibility increase 5 to 10 % but if agree with US ...i dont know the ¤É³l¦h¤Ö
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listen Monetary say to change their system ....the effect .....many years ppl live in ¨aÃø

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