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作者: icac    時間: 2007-6-24 13:37     標題: 咁多年炒股,有冇失敗經驗分享

吾好買d未有錢賺新上市股

本人經驗
8008 @10.4 新意網

8222 @2 長江生命科技
作者: ytt    時間: 2007-6-25 01:22

we fail because we think we are clever than others. We think we could see things others don't see. So we tend to buy those stocks that others don't buy.

the fact is that 90% of the investors that buy only the large stocks will always win. 90% those who buy "cold" stocks will always lose.
作者: 三少weng    時間: 2007-6-25 04:28

我都同意樓主的意見....
作者: jackpao    時間: 2007-6-25 12:31

8號仔

22$入,好彩$15已斬,相信以前有唔少股民都瀨野
作者: peninsula    時間: 2007-6-26 12:38

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原帖由 icac 於 2007-6-24 13:37 發表
吾好買d未有錢賺新上市股
本人經驗
8008 @10.4 新意網
8222 @2 長江生命科技
Always need to pay "school fee"!
作者: violetblue    時間: 2007-7-10 09:24

1.61 入咗 (603) 中油燃氣，
依家得番 1.36， 慘！
作者: jacksonson    時間: 2007-7-11 20:08

good!   good!    good!
作者: peninsula    時間: 2007-7-11 20:34

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原帖由 jacksonson 於 2007-7-11 20:08 發表
good!   good!    good!
Don't post this kind of garbage!
作者: violetblue    時間: 2007-7-12 12:44

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原帖由 violetblue 於 2007-7-10 09:24 發表
1.61 入咗 (603) 中油燃氣，
依家得番 1.36， 慘！
今日波幅: 1.48 - 1.70
Rise : (12.41%)

可惜！ 驚得滯，
$1.45蝕錢走咗！



[ 本帖最後由 violetblue 於 2007-7-12 15:43 編輯 ]
作者: icac    時間: 2007-7-13 21:50

good!   good!    good!

pls dont post this kind of garbage
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版主請不要delete 這些意見
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呢度都要有些莊家或投機者,如果吾係呢版邊有咁旺
作者: peninsula    時間: 2007-7-13 23:08

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原帖由 icac 於 2007-6-24 13:37 發表
吾好買d未有錢賺新上市股
本人經驗
8008 @10.4 新意網
8222 @2 長江生命科技
Too many disasters but some spectacular success stories as well.
作者: hahaer2    時間: 2007-7-22 13:20

the time is important than chosse a stock
作者: 小花至愛    時間: 2007-7-22 17:16

Usually 3 categories for me...

1. Cut-win too soon,,, e.g. cut-win at 20-50% and the stock doubled or tripled,,,

2. Cut-loss too late,,, especially on derivatives and stocks without decent strength,,,

3. Pure bad luck,,, e.g. I hold 604 for over 2 years,,, the price was stagnant,,,, for some reason I needed the monies for urgent use,,, but 2 weeks after I sold it, price doubled,,, and +16 months later,,, price increased six-fold,,,
作者: giovanni    時間: 2007-7-22 20:59

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作者: icac    時間: 2007-7-22 23:14

the time is important than chosse a stock  
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絕不同意,擇錯股,最多坐艇,但可翻身,
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作者: peninsula    時間: 2007-7-23 09:02

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原帖由 小花至愛 於 2007-7-22 17:16 發表
Usually 3 categories for me...
1. Cut-win too soon,,, e.g. cut-win at 20-50% and the stock doubled or tripled,,,
2. Cut-loss too late,,, especially on derivatives and stocks without decent s ...
Always true!
作者: 薑餅    時間: 2007-7-24 19:06

我都有8222,不過係果時抽返黎,
依家睇返,2元入,依家得返0.7x
唉.攞返佢出黎,等退休時睇下點啦,
希望佢有機會轉營做其他野啦
作者: vodkaboy    時間: 2007-7-24 19:51

炒股輸少D.....我主要失敗在炒輪....有變廢紙經驗....所以現在買輪宗指盡量即日...
作者: peninsula    時間: 2007-7-24 21:58

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原帖由 vodkaboy 於 2007-7-24 19:51 發表
炒股輸少D.....我主要失敗在炒輪....有變廢紙經驗....所以現在買輪宗指盡量即日...
I have too many nightmare with warrants.
作者: Air Supply    時間: 2007-7-24 22:26

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原帖由 icac 於 2007-7-22 23:14 發表
the time is important than chosse a stock  
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絕不同意,擇錯股,最多坐艇,但可翻身,
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絕對大錯特錯~ 就算係正股, 都可以俾證監會勒令停牌, 兩年之內無提交復牌建議, 或者復牌建議不被證監會接納, 證監會有權勒令有關公司除牌~
作者: jk3g3w4i    時間: 2007-8-5 12:42     標題: 果然不出我所料恒指在7月期結跌幅達800點之多

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作者: 大冒險家    時間: 2007-8-6 11:25

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原帖由 jackpao 於 2007-6-25 12:31 發表
8號仔

22$入,好彩$15已斬,相信以前有唔少股民都瀨野
我$15 買 $10 cut 晒

上個浪原本賺2球....2星期輸晒
作者: peninsula    時間: 2007-8-6 11:55

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原帖由 大冒險家 於 2007-8-6 11:25 發表
我$15 買 $10 cut 晒
上個浪原本賺2球....2星期輸晒
Easy come easy go!
作者: kenny1234    時間: 2007-8-6 20:48

我當年衰係孖展手上！.................大大鑊！
作者: 3a4b5c6c    時間: 2007-8-6 22:36

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Originally posted by kenny1234 at 2007-8-6 20:48
我當年衰係孖展手上！.................大大鑊！
Me too loss huge in HS future in 2003 and living like in hell for 4 yrs until last Nov
作者: peninsula    時間: 2007-8-7 09:15

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-8-6 22:36 發表
Me too loss huge in HS future in 2003 and living like in hell for 4 yrs until last Nov
HIGH Risk HIGH return lor.
作者: 3a4b5c6c    時間: 2007-8-7 10:47

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Originally posted by peninsula at 2007-8-7 09:15

HIGH Risk HIGH return lor.
Yes, it is.  High risk with high return.
So, I keep betting on warrant, but not HS future anymore now
作者: peninsula    時間: 2007-8-7 11:13

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-8-7 10:47 發表
Yes, it is.  High risk with high return.
So, I keep betting on warrant, but not HS future anymore now
So did you make any $?
作者: 3a4b5c6c    時間: 2007-8-7 11:50

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Originally posted by peninsula at 2007-8-7 11:13

So did you make any $?
Yes, making a lot of money from warrant since Nov last year as long as I stay away from HSI future
作者: peninsula    時間: 2007-8-7 11:53

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-8-7 11:50 發表
Yes, making a lot of money from warrant since Nov last year as long as I stay away from HSI future
Why would that be?
作者: jackpao    時間: 2007-8-7 12:00

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-24 21:58 發表

I have too many nightmare with warrants.
Me2. My great loss is also come from warrant.... It has offset my earning from stock. So I don't buy warrant anymore.
作者: peninsula    時間: 2007-8-7 12:35

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原帖由 jackpao 於 2007-8-7 12:00 發表
Me2. My great loss is also come from warrant.... It has offset my earning from stock. So I don't buy warrant anymore.
Avoid at all costs!
作者: 3a4b5c6c    時間: 2007-8-7 14:30

It is an experience.  Some are good on stock, some on HSI future, and some on warrant, currency,.....etc.
Whatever you can use those tools to make money, then it is suitable for you.

My experience, I lost badly in HSI future, but doing quite good in stock and warrant.  But some people have opposite experience from me for sure
作者: peninsula    時間: 2007-8-7 17:29

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-8-7 14:30 發表
My experience, I lost badly in HSI future, but doing quite good in stock and warrant.  But some people have opposite experience from me for sure
I doubt if many people have positive experience on warrants or futures.
作者: 3a4b5c6c    時間: 2007-8-7 17:34

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Originally posted by peninsula at 2007-8-7 17:29

I doubt if many people have positive experience on warrants or futures.
Not many of course.  
I know few friends who are professional traders at HSI future everyday.  They don't make big money, but they live on it for last 6 years.

Too bad, I am not the one with them.  I do a little bit better in warrant instead of future.

Stock is a long term investment with big profit return and save if found some good stocks.
Warrant is gambling, up and down pretty fast.  High risk and high return(maybe loss) as well
作者: peninsula    時間: 2007-8-7 17:45

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-8-7 17:34 發表
Not many of course.   
I have been winning on cross rates leveraged FX contracts but can lose big on - esp. if you bet against JPY. I am now marginally up after being in front by over $150K.
作者: 3a4b5c6c    時間: 2007-8-7 17:51

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Originally posted by peninsula at 2007-8-7 17:45

I have been winning on cross rates leveraged FX contracts but can lose big on - esp. if you bet against JPY. I am now marginally up after being in front by over $150K.
Not bad, still very good
作者: peninsula    時間: 2007-8-7 18:01

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-8-7 17:51 發表
Not bad, still very good
But giving back $100K+ is no fun (it is now paper loss as I have not closed contracts).
作者: 3a4b5c6c    時間: 2007-8-7 18:04

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Originally posted by peninsula at 2007-8-7 18:01

But giving back $100K+ is no fun (it is now paper loss as I have not closed contracts).
So. what are you going to do now? Close your contract?
作者: peninsula    時間: 2007-8-7 18:10

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-8-7 18:04 發表
So. what are you going to do now? Close your contract?
If you put in margin calls, there is no expiry date/no need to close and I earn @3% interest on the entire strike amount. If I keep for 1 year, and the cross currencies dropped by 3%, I am technically EVEN as I would have earned 3% interest.
作者: 3a4b5c6c    時間: 2007-8-7 18:19

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Originally posted by peninsula at 2007-8-7 18:10

If you put in margin calls, there is no expiry date/no need to close and I earn @3% interest on the entire strike amount. If I keep for 1 year, and the cross currencies dropped by 3%, I am techni ...
Any other profit beside this 3%, it seems not much unless you buy a lot on it
作者: peninsula    時間: 2007-8-7 18:23

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-8-7 18:19 發表
Any other profit beside this 3%, it seems not much unless you buy a lot on it
It is highly leveraged. I can use HKD50,000 margin to control a GBP62,500 (nearly HKD1m) contract. So if JPY weakens against GBP, even by say 1.5% (which is very possible), I can make 1.5% of GBP62,500 or GBP940. They move up and down by hundreds of basis points every day so if you pick the right direction, can make easy money every day.
作者: 3a4b5c6c    時間: 2007-8-7 18:25

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Originally posted by peninsula at 2007-8-7 18:23

It is highly leveraged. I can use HKD50,000 margin to control a GBP62,500 (nearly HKD1m) contract. So if JPY weakens against GBP, even by say 1.5% (which is very possible), I can make 1.5% of GBP ...
I understand now.
Sometimes, it seems much easy to make money than in stock market, don't you agree
作者: peninsula    時間: 2007-8-7 18:28

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-8-7 18:25 發表
I understand now.
Sometimes, it seems much easy to make money than in stock market, don't you agree
It's easy to make the $4K to 5K per contract but need to have very good timing to make the really big ones. I have sat on contracts that could make 1,000+ basis points (1 point = HK$40 to HK$70) depending on what cross rates contracts you hold but often sold after gaining just 150 points.
作者: 3a4b5c6c    時間: 2007-8-7 18:31

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Originally posted by peninsula at 2007-8-7 18:28

It's easy to make the $4K to 5K per contract but need to have very good timing to make the really big ones. I have sat on contracts that could make 1,000+ basis points (1 point = HK$40 to HK$70)  ...
I see, timing is very good on everything.  No matter in stock or currency,.....etc
150 points is good per contract.
Hope you are doing good over there.

Thanks for your information, I have learned a good lesson from you today
作者: peninsula    時間: 2007-8-7 18:32

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-8-7 18:31 發表
I see, timing is very good on everything.  No matter in stock or currency,.....etc
150 points is good per contract.
Hope you are doing good over there. ...
I am too impatience or too CHEAP!
作者: kenny1234    時間: 2007-8-7 21:44

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-8-6 22:36 發表




Me too loss huge in HS future in 2003 and living like in hell for 4 yrs until last Nov
唉，搞到我現在都未復元氣，雖然舊年已過四年！
作者: 3a4b5c6c    時間: 2007-8-7 23:52

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Originally posted by peninsula at 2007-8-7 18:32

I am too impatience or too CHEAP!
No, I don't think so, play safe always good.
作者: 3a4b5c6c    時間: 2007-8-8 00:23

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Originally posted by kenny1234 at 2007-8-7 21:44

唉，搞到我現在都未復元氣，雖然舊年已過四年！
It was pretty bad for 4 yrs, almost no entainment at all, and had to pay for all general expenses, negative house owner; tough time for me and also for many people in Hk as well.

But get into all possible chance to make more money, then back to the game, but is safe way after learnt a big big lesson.  Then better success in the future.

Keep on Kenny
作者: kenny1234    時間: 2007-8-9 21:51

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-8-8 00:23 發表



It was pretty bad for 4 yrs, almost no entainment at all, and had to pay for all general expenses, negative house owner; tough time for me and also for many people in Hk as well.

But get i ...
一齊再努力啦，我已經儲緊錢再入市！
作者: 3a4b5c6c    時間: 2007-8-9 22:10

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Originally posted by kenny1234 at 2007-8-9 21:51

一齊再努力啦，我已經儲緊錢再入市！
Yes, saved enough ammo, and fight again.  
Try to buy some around 21900 for short run, sell at 22700
作者: peninsula    時間: 2007-8-9 22:14

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-8-9 22:10 發表
Yes, saved enough ammo, and fight again.  
Try to buy some around 21900 for short run, sell at 22700
The BIG crash can come any time. Be prepare and only commit what you can afford to lose (consider worst case scenario).
作者: 3a4b5c6c    時間: 2007-8-9 22:27

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Originally posted by peninsula at 2007-8-9 22:14

The BIG crash can come any time. Be prepare and only commit what you can afford to lose (consider worst case scenario).
Yes, agreed, always alert the market at all time.
Play safe, don't lose the principle; otherwise, need to save ammo again
作者: peninsula    時間: 2007-8-10 10:14

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-8-9 22:27 發表
Yes, agreed, always alert the market at all time.
Play safe, don't lose the principle; otherwise, need to save ammo again
Consider total loss and any profit will be bonus.
作者: 3a4b5c6c    時間: 2007-8-10 11:07

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Originally posted by peninsula at 2007-8-10 10:14

Consider total loss and any profit will be bonus.
Absolutely, always prepare for worst.
This is a jeopardy game, that why so many people got attracted by it(money)
作者: peninsula    時間: 2007-8-10 18:03

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-8-10 11:07 發表
Absolutely, always prepare for worst.
This is a jeopardy game, that why so many people got attracted by it(money)
They all think they can outsmart the market and make easy money. I'd say over 95% are wrong!
作者: 3a4b5c6c    時間: 2007-8-10 20:29

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Originally posted by peninsula at 2007-8-10 18:03

They all think they can outsmart the market and make easy money. I'd say over 95% are wrong!
Yes, money is not that easy to make from market.  Some can make good and easy money when match up the right time with market blow up in anyway, it is a luck.
if really can make long term money, make big and loss less, it takes long time to learn and gets many unhappy experience.
作者: jk3g3w4i    時間: 2007-8-20 09:37     標題: 果然不出我所料恒指在7月期結跌幅達800點之多

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