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作者: lafite2004 時間: 2007-6-27 17:22 標題: 2020 安踏

Among the new shares 1836,722,1997,3331,2020.

I like 2020 安踏, and then 3331 維達.

2020 安踏 is my choice.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-6-27 17:53

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原帖由 lafite2004 於 2007-6-27 17:22 發表
Among the new shares 1836,722,1997,3331,2020.
I like 2020 安踏, and then 3331 維達.
2020 安踏 is my choice.

I agree!

作者: leoxi 時間: 2007-6-28 00:19

With so many IPOs, it's really hard to spare extra cash to subscribe.

作者: jackpao 時間: 2007-6-28 09:40

Have subscribed IPO. Hope that I can get at least one lot as I only apply 25K shares.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-6-28 10:11

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原帖由 leoxi 於 2007-6-28 00:19 發表
With so many IPOs, it's really hard to spare extra cash to subscribe.

Use margin!

作者: titov 時間: 2007-6-28 21:17

3 hand 安踏, but have not apply 維達.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-6-29 12:47

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原帖由 titov 於 2007-6-28 21:17 發表
3 hand 安踏, but have not apply 維達.

Apply 1 hand 維達 ma. Anyway, too late!

作者: titov 時間: 2007-6-29 21:48

Why you interesting on 維達?

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-6-30 14:38

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原帖由 titov 於 2007-6-29 21:48 發表
Why you interesting on 維達?

It's a good consumer stock. Good profile in HK/PRC.

作者: liqi12345 時間: 2007-6-30 19:30

I DON'T AGREE!```

作者: liqi12345 時間: 2007-6-30 19:31

ANTA IS VERY BEST!

作者: titov 時間: 2007-6-30 20:20

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-6-30 14:38 發表

It's a good consumer stock. Good profile in HK/PRC.

But tissue market have very big competition ma?

作者: xxuudd 時間: 2007-7-1 00:25

With so many IPOs, it's really hard to spare extra cash to subscribe

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-3 20:52

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原帖由 liqi12345 於 2007-6-30 19:30 發表
I DON'T AGREE!```

Why not??

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-3 20:54

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原帖由 titov 於 2007-6-30 20:20 發表
But tissue market have very big competition ma?

ANTA is not a tissue company. You must be referring to VINDA!

ANTA is a sports shoes and clothings company with many outlets within China. When I was in Guangzhou recently, business was good. Yes, there are competitors but what industry does not have??

作者: 來人 時間: 2007-7-3 20:55

2020 好似前景幾好喎.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-5 08:56

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原帖由來人於 2007-7-3 20:55 發表
2020 好似前景幾好喎.

Another sure WIN but won't be as crazy as #658.

作者: titov 時間: 2007-7-5 21:18

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原帖由 titov 於 2007-6-28 21:17 發表
Titov: 3 hand 安踏, but have not apply 維達.

Pennisula: Apply 1 hand 維達 ma. Anyway, too late!

Titov: Why you interesting on 維達?

Pennisula: It's a good consumer stock. Good profile in HK/PRC.

Titov: But tissue market have very big competition ma?

Pennisula: ANTA is not a tissue company. You must be referring to VINDA!

ANTA is a sports shoes and clothings company with many outlets within China. When I was in Guangzhou recently, business was good. Yes, there are competitors but what industry does not have??

版主你真係貴人善忘, 傾緊咩都唔記得。

作者: eatallcheesecak 時間: 2007-7-6 00:06

It seems to me that I made the wrong decision for betting on this one over 658

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-6 13:22

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原帖由 eatallcheesecak 於 2007-7-6 00:06 發表
It seems to me that I made the wrong decision for betting on this one over 658

They should be OK but not as good as #658.

作者: lafite2004 時間: 2007-7-6 17:03

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原帖由 titov 於 2007-7-5 13:18 發表

版主你真係貴人善忘, 傾緊咩都唔記得。

Oh, Excuse him la .........He was thinking of the good old days when he made $ 1x0k in one week.....(.since the post ""RECORD "" is very close to this thread.)

As, ................. he try to make another record in the near future.

Good luck to Him.

作者: ngaiso 時間: 2007-7-7 09:28

Monday will get the result, hope i can get both la

作者: lafite2004 時間: 2007-7-9 10:20

Apply 1 hand (1,000 shares ), ........the chance is 50 %.

Apply 15,000 shares to ensure 1 hand.

Wait and see the price tomorrow.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-9 14:18

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原帖由 lafite2004 於 2007-7-9 10:20 發表
Apply 1 hand (1,000 shares ), ........the chance is 50 %.
Apply 15,000 shares to ensure 1 hand.
Wait and see the price tomorrow.

No allocation for me. Did not use margin.

作者: lafite2004 時間: 2007-7-9 16:58

First day,
The price will be around $6.78 ................. I think

Well, 28 % gain (ex charges)

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-9 17:33

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原帖由 lafite2004 於 2007-7-9 16:58 發表
First day, the price will be around $6.78 ................. I think
Well, 28 % gain (ex charges)

Very good indeed!

作者: titov 時間: 2007-7-9 17:54

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-9 14:18 發表

No allocation for me. Did not use margin.

同是天涯鄰落人。

作者: lafite2004 時間: 2007-7-11 16:41

In view of the poor price of 合景泰富 in the first day, .

Unexpected, 2020 hit $7.91 high .

It close at $7.5  making 42 % gain .

I sold mine at $7.81  Not bad at all .

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作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-11 16:55

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原帖由 lafite2004 於 2007-7-11 16:41 發表
In view of the poor price of 合景泰富 in the first day

Good. 2020 loses steam today but 3331 getting stronger!

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-11 17:38

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-11 04:55 PM 發表

Good. 2020 loses steam today but 3331 getting stronger!

Forget about them lar.

The best IPO EVER is the one today. #569.

Allocation is around 7% and price has gone up 47%.

As as usual, I picked the wrong one today - #825 with 4% allocation and rise of 19%.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-11 17:43

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-11 17:38 發表
Forget about them lar.
The best IPO EVER is the one today. #569.
Allocation is around 7% and price has gone up 47%.
As as usual, I picked the wrong one today - #825 with 4% alloca ...

I did not get allocation on #569 also despite applying both. Will it go up like #658?

Got 1 hand #825 but not much use.

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-11 17:51

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-11 05:43 PM 發表

I did not get allocation on #569 also despite applying both. Will it go up like #658?

Got 1 hand #825 but not much use.

This is better than #658 by far. Allocation is 7% X 47% gain. #658 is 1% X 100% gain.

The trend for today's IPOs is they do favor big tickets.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-11 17:56

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-11 17:51 發表
This is better than #658 by far. Allocation is 7% X 47% gain. #658 is 1% X 100% gain.
The trend for today's IPOs is they do favor big tickets.

So I will set auction price for #569 at 9:43am tomorrow!

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-11 18:13

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-11 05:56 PM 發表

So I will set auction price for #569 at 9:43am tomorrow!

Auction price can be set at 9:49:59

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-11 20:36

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-11 18:13 發表
Auction price can be set at 9:49:59

All on-line service cut-off at 9:45am wor!

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-12 00:37

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-11 08:36 PM 發表

All on-line service cut-off at 9:45am wor!

That's wrong. Before 9:45 am, you can put in both auction price and limit price and you can withdraw anytime up to 9:44:59 sharp. Between 9:45:00 and 9:49:59, you can only put in auction price and you cannot withdraw.

If you are at the right place (stock) at the right time and understand how to use the auction price system to the fullest, there are occasionally free money to be taken.

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作者: eatallcheesecak 時間: 2007-7-12 02:34

I sold all my 56,000 IPO shares of #2020 today.

None 569 for me too.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-12 08:38

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-12 00:37 發表
That's wrong. Before 9:45 am, you can put in both auction price and limit price and you can withdraw anytime up to 9:44:59 sharp. Between 9:45:00 and 9:49:59, you can only put in auction pri ...

But my on-line systems do not allow this function as you described. Let me investigate further. Do you use HSBC or Tai Fook or Hantec or Boom?

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-12 09:42

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-12 00:37 發表
That's wrong. Before 9:45 am, you can put in both auction price and limit price and you can withdraw anytime up to 9:44:59 sharp. Between 9:45:00 and 9:49:59, you can only put in auction pri ...

I just tried with 3 brokers on-line and ALL cannot place auction prices after 9:45am!

作者: eatallcheesecak 時間: 2007-7-12 10:39

The auction price for 569 was at 2.50 at around 9:45, and I should have placed a bet on it by looking its price right now.

Again, I sold my 2020 IPO one day behind or one day too early.

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-12 11:42

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原帖由 eatallcheesecak 於 2007-7-12 10:39 AM 發表
The auction price for 569 was at 2.50 at around 9:45, and I should have placed a bet on it by looking its price right now.

Again, I sold my 2020 IPO one day behind or one day too early.

The auction price @ 9:45 doesn't mean a thing especially with fresh IPO on day 1. The only price that counts is the one towards 9:50.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-12 11:55

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-12 11:42 發表
The auction price @ 9:45 doesn't mean a thing especially with fresh IPO on day 1. The only price that counts is the one towards 9:50.

What a lot of SHIT! I cannot place any auction price orders after 9:45am (I tried 3 different brokers, including HSBC).

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-12 12:20

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-12 11:55 AM 發表

What a lot of SHIT! I cannot place any auction price orders after 9:45am (I tried 3 different brokers, including HSBC).

Then, just don't place auction orders after 9:45

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-12 18:46

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-12 12:20 發表
Then, just don't place auction orders after 9:45

Don't give FALSE info!

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-12 21:04

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-12 06:46 PM 發表

Don't give FALSE info!

You are such an amateur.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-12 21:32

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-12 21:04 發表
You are such an amateur.

Can you tell me which broker and I will call-up to verify?

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-12 21:33

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-12 21:04 發表
You are such an amateur.

Don't think so highly of yourself MAN! Know your values ...

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-12 22:05

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-12 09:32 PM 發表

Can you tell me which broker and I will call-up to verify?

Every broker can do it. Do you understand. Do you think it only works for some but not all brokers?

Just because you can't do it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And because I do it all the time, do you think HKSE do an exception for me.

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-12 22:07

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-12 09:33 PM 發表

Don't think so highly of yourself MAN! Know your values ...

I know your value. Wake up from your cyber portfolio.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-12 22:12

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-12 22:05 發表
Every broker can do it. Do you understand. Do you think it only works for some but not all brokers?
Just because you can't do it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And because I do it all the ...

Don't be a jerk. If it is true, just give me a broker's name and I will call the firm and/or person to place an auction price after 9:45am. I already asked my contacts today!

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-12 22:13

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-12 22:07 發表
I know your value. Wake up from your cyber portfolio.

Sweet cyber dream to you too!

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-12 22:19

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-12 10:13 PM 發表

Sweet cyber dream to you too!

You want me to quote the examples in this forum of your cyber trades. I have long memories and I track most trades for the thinly traded stock that I mentioned here. You want me to link the old post to what you say recently. If you tell a lot of lies, sometimes you tend to forget what you had said.

Fantasy doesn't make you money. But if you get a kick out of this, please continue.

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-12 22:22

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-12 10:12 PM 發表

Don't be a jerk. If it is true, just give me a broker's name and I will call the firm and/or person to place an auction price after 9:45am. I already asked my contacts today!:di ...

I don't use discount brokers. You probably can't afford mine.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-12 22:27

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-12 22:19 發表
You want me to quote the examples in this forum of your cyber trades. I have long memories and I track most trades for the thinly traded stock that I mentioned here. You want me to link the ...

I don't want to boast but you do have a BIG ego. I don't need to do cyber trades and I do have 5 active accounts. Just don't insult your own intelligence!

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-12 22:31

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-12 22:22 發表
I don't use discount brokers. You probably can't afford mine.

As a matter of fact, I use both kinds. For the record, these are my brokers :

HSBC
Core Pacific
Hantec
Chief
Win Wong

Tai Fook (inactive)

For US stocks, I use Boom.

For leveraged currencies and gold, I use Tai Fook.

Yes, I cannot afford yours but I don't need to use them ...

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-12 22:34

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-12 22:19 發表
You want me to quote the examples in this forum of your cyber trades. I have long memories and I track most trades for the thinly traded stock that I mentioned here. You want me to link the ...

Please QUOTE. I like to know too.

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-12 22:35

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-12 10:27 PM 發表

I don't want to boast but you do have a BIG ego. I don't need to do cyber trades and I do have 5 active accounts. Just don't insult your own intelligence!

Don't side track on the ego shit. I am talking about the cyber trade. That trades that you did after 4 pm. That you got in $XX (day low)..... Wonder if Jockey club let me bet on Race 1 after Race 10 was run.

Want me to quote an example of what you said six months ago on your "trade" of #197 and what you said 2 weeks ago?

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-12 22:38

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-12 22:35 發表
Don't side track on the ego shit. I am talking about the cyber trade. That trades that you did after 4 pm. That you got in $XX (day low)..... Wonder if Jockey club let me bet on Race 1 afte ...

What did I say on #197? Pls refresh my memory. In fact, I still have 20K.

When the hell did I say I can trade after 4pm? Are you out of your mind?

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-12 22:41

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-12 22:35 發表
That you got in $XX (day low)..

I am not so lucky. I hardly ever can get in at day low or out at day high with exceptions. You need to be very smart to do that. With auction prices, you can get in at day low provided the stocks keep on rising. Today, there are several examples ie. #569, #139, #885.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-12 22:43

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-12 22:07 發表
I know your value. Wake up from your cyber portfolio.

Today, #224 is out of favour so I will place orders tomorrow for @$0.9.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-12 22:50

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原帖由 eatallcheesecak 於 2007-7-12 10:39 發表
The auction price for 569 was at 2.50 at around 9:45, and I should have placed a bet on it by looking its price right now.
Again, I sold my 2020 IPO one day behind or one day too early.

I like to know if other brothers/sisters can place auction prices after 9:45am?? Anyone tried and succeed?

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-12 22:52

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-11 17:38 發表
Forget about them lar.
The best IPO EVER is the one today. #569.
Allocation is around 7% and price has gone up 47%.
As as usual, I picked the wrong one today - #825 with 4% alloca ...

Since you are expert on so many things, where do you think GOLD is heading? I just executed several PUT contracts at $668.

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-12 23:22

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-12 10:52 PM 發表

Since you are expert on so many things, where do you think GOLD is heading? I just executed several PUT contracts at $668.

Don't put words into my mouth - I never claimed to be an expert on so many things, in particular predicting the market, currency, bullion.... In fact, I always said in this forum that today's price is the right price, when you have a willing buyer and a willing seller. So you have a 50/50 chance of winning/losing. Good luck on your gold trade.

I claim to be an expert on the rules for things that I deal with and I don't 9up without having done it myself first hand. For things like auction trade at what they call "pre-order matching period" - 9:45 am to 9:50 am, where I have done 100 trades and ocassionally paid tuition fees, I am not only an expert but a Master of it.

作者: eatallcheesecak 時間: 2007-7-13 08:46

Are the bids or asks bounded to be executed within the "pre-order matching period 9:45am - 9:50am" if matching can be made?

Thanks.

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作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-13 09:05

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原帖由 eatallcheesecak 於 2007-7-13 08:46 AM 發表
Are the bids or asks bounded to be executed within the "pre-order matching period 9:45am - 9:50am" if matching can be made?

Thanks.

can't fully understand your question but I guess the answer would be -

the matching will be made for the volume at the cutoff at 9:50 am sharp. And it all depends on the volume on each side. Eg. if bid = 100K, and offer = 150K, 100K will be matched and if the balance 50K is auction order, it will be automatically cancelled but if they are limit order, they will remain on board and carry thru to 10 am.

If your question is about the timing, no, the matching won't happen during that 5 min. as one can put in more auction orders until 9:49:59

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-13 09:06

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-12 23:22 發表
Don't put words into my mouth - I never claimed to be an expert on so many things, in particular predicting the market, currency, bullion.... In fact, I always said in this forum that today's ...

Thanks and let's stop this kind of bickering.

I guess you are right. Always willing buyers & sellers. I have been lucky on most cross currencies leveraged contracts and have made more from them than the stock market. All are CALLS and they are GBP/JPY, GBP/CHF and AUD/JPY. I was down over $100K per contract in March due to carry trade and JPY getting to 115 vs. USD but have recovered as I have CALL contracts and can wait out (no need to pay interest as in PUT).

I asked a simple question as I cannot execute online. Must they be done manually via a live broker?

Thanks again.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-13 09:12

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-13 09:05 發表
can't fully understand your question but I guess the answer would be -
the matching will be made for the volume at the cutoff at 9:50 am sharp. And it all depends on the volume on each si ...

This is another confusion point. For all the auction orders I have placed thus far, they will ALL become "at-limit" orders if not matched. That's what happened at HSBC, Hantec and Chief which I am 100% sure. They don't get "canceled".

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-13 09:15

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-13 09:06 AM 發表

Thanks and let's stop this kind of bickering.

I guess you are right. Always willing buyers & sellers. I have been lucky on most cross currencies leveraged contracts and have made more fr ...

Sure.  I am losing my shirt with my long EUR/YEN.  I gained 16 trades in a row by range trade, and this one loss is many times over that 16 gains.

I stopped using internet trade with banks, esp Hang Seng which is hopeless.  A normal order put in at 9:40 am didn't get on board until 10:15 am and they claimed they had X thousand trades in the pipeline, ...  and this is not one-off ocassion.

I made a lot of easy money via this auction trades preying on the wrong orders, or I guess for brokers who execute for overseas clients who gave them market order and didn't give a damn on the price.  So 9:45 am to 9:50 is a very important trading period for me.

作者: eatallcheesecak 時間: 2007-7-13 09:16

Thankyou for your explanation, a little bit complicated for me though.

作者: eatallcheesecak 時間: 2007-7-13 09:20

I have the same experience with the banks' automated phone system.

One did cancell my pre-opening order after opening , one not.

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-13 09:12 AM 發表

This is another confusion point. For all the auction orders I have placed thus far, they will ALL become "at-limit" orders if not matched. That's what happened at HSBC, Hantec and Chi ...

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-13 09:22

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-13 09:15 發表
Sure. I am losing my shirt with my long EUR/YEN. I gained 16 trades in a row by range trade, and this one loss is many times over that 16 gains.
I stopped using internet trade with banks, ...

HSBC can be frustrating too (cannot log in at all sometimes during heaving trading).

I am still intrigue by the 9:45am to 9:50am window. Do you place orders on-line? Pls tell me which firm you use.

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-13 09:44

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-13 09:12 AM 發表

This is another confusion point. For all the auction orders I have placed thus far, they will ALL become "at-limit" orders if not matched. That's what happened at HSBC, Hantec and Chi ...

You probably placed the auction limit order as opposed to the auction order which has a higher priorty than the former.

One word of caution for first time user of auction trade, especially the less popular counters and especially when you look at the IEP at 9:44:XX. That very often is a hoax, and the bidder/offeror will withdraw before the 9:45 cutoff. You may end up buying at a much higher price or selling at a much lower price than you when you put your order in. You should put in a small order to have a taste of it, and very often you pay a little tuition fee to learn the trick before you trick others.

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作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-13 10:05

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-13 09:44 發表
You probably placed the auction limit order as opposed to the auction order which has a higher priorty than the former. ...

Any comment on #310? Pls reply to the other thread.

作者: lafite2004 時間: 2007-7-13 10:15

Regarding Aution Trade, I don't understand how they work. For example;;;;

Bid : $8 = 20k ; $6 =15K ; $4 =40K

Offer : $10 =10K ; $5 = 22k ; $7 =14K @limited order.

What will be matching price and the volumn at 9.50 hours

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-13 10:21

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原帖由 lafite2004 於 2007-7-13 10:15 AM 發表
Regarding Aution Trade, I don't understand how they work. For example;;;;

Bid : $8 = 20k ; $6 =15K ; $4 =40K

Offer : $10 =10K ; $5 = 22k ; $7 =14K @limit ...

This is a wrong example. Give us one that where bid & offer, then +1/-1, then we can explain.

作者: lafite2004 時間: 2007-7-13 10:56

Excuse me for saying ..........In reality, there are thousands of bids and offers. They bid and offer at a wide range  . They must not have +1  /  -1 only. My example is  extreme. but  that will show the way how it works .

How about these

Bid : $8  = 20k ; $7 =15K    ;

Offer :  $9  =30K ;    $10  =  22k ;

作者: lafite2004 時間: 2007-7-13 11:11

How about these

Bid : $10 = 20k ; $9 =15K ; $8 = 20k ; $7 =15K

Offer : $8 =10K ; $9 = 22k $10 =30K ; $11 = 22k

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-13 13:11

[quote]原帖由 lafite2004 於 2007-7-13 10:56 AM 發表

How about these

Bid : $8  = 20k ; $7 =15K    ;

Offer :  $9  =30K ;    $10  =  22k ; /quote]

These are limit orders (as opposed to auction or auction limit orders).

When you put in an auction order, you can't name a price.  It would match the best limit price in your counterparty.  If you want to sell at auction in the above example, you put a sell auction order and your order would show an offer of $8.

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作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-13 13:14

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原帖由 lafite2004 於 2007-7-13 11:11 AM 發表
How about these

Bid : $10 = 20k ; $9 =15K ; $8 = 20k ; $7 =15K

Offer : $8 =10K ; $9 = 22k $10 =30K ; $11 = 22k

You won't find this either. You won't have a bid of $10 & offer of $8 on board. Chances are when you put an offer at $8 when there's a bid for $10, the system will take you to $10. I think qty might play a part in it if you want to sell lower than already is on screen.

Again, you are only putting a limit order, not auction. You don't fix a price for auction order.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-13 14:17

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-13 13:11 發表
These are limit orders (a ...

When you put in an auction order, you can't name a price.

Maybe that's the thing. When I put in auction orders, I always name prices. I guess if I don't specify prices and let the system take over, I can put in bids after 9:45am. Maybe ...

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-13 14:21

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-13 02:17 PM 發表

When you put in an auction order, you can't name a price.

Maybe that's the thing. When I put in auction orders, I always name prices. I guess if I don't specify prices and let the system take ...

The rule stipulates that after 9:45 am you can only put in an auction order.

What you put in was either a Limit Order or Auction Limit Order.

In case you guys don't already know, the auction order will overtake all Limit orders that were placed earlier than you.

作者: lafite2004 時間: 2007-7-13 16:17

Thanks  to dejavu2003

Yes my mistake last time .

BUT  , if

Bid :  { $10  = 20k ; $9 =15K    ; $8  = 20k ; $7 =15K ;; all limed bid } and { 200 K @auction    }

Offer : { $8  =10K ;    $9  =  22k $10  =30K ;    $11  =  22k  ;; all limed bid          }  and {250 K @ auction }

Then what is the matching price  and what is the  volumn.  ?

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-13 16:47

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原帖由 lafite2004 於 2007-7-13 04:17 PM 發表
Thanks  to dejavu2003

Yes my mistake last time .

BUT  , if

Bid :  { $10  = 20k ; $9 =15K    ; $8  = 20k ; $7 =15K ;; all limed bid } and { 200 K @auction    }
...

This is the wrong data again.  You have bid higher than offer and this won't happen in real life.

I have a print screen dd 5-17 on #197 when I prey on two market orders and made $11,000 out of nothing, and this is the real life data and may give you some idea of what happens to auction orders. But I can't copy a word file to the forum.  pm me your email address and I will forward the file to you.  Then I can explain.

Anyway, the system is much more complicated.  There is a rule for the equilibrium price and the final IEP would be affected by the size of auction order from each side.  It took me a while to learn and then I forgot and now I am trying to pick up again.

作者: lafite2004 時間: 2007-7-13 17:08

My email address is

lafite2004@yahoo.com.hk

I just want to learn ........Since at auction period, some fool can put in a bid price higer than the Offer price as they can not see the offer price at the screen at that time .
I very often find that they are crazy putting their price sky high and then drop back afterwards in a few seconds.

thx

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-13 17:14

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原帖由 lafite2004 於 2007-7-13 05:08 PM 發表
My email address is

lafite2004@yahoo.com.hk

I just want to learn ........Since at auction period, some fool can put in a bid price higer than the Offer price as they can not see the off ...

Most of the time, they are not fool. They put in a sky high price sometimes to trap you into putting in a auction bid/offer. Then they withdraw at 09:44:45 and when you find out, you are too late to withdraw your auction order. This is particularly true in a second liner where there are few bid/offer at pre-open.

With first day of IPO, it's a different story because it's an efficient market.

File is on the way. My order (auction of course) is the 2nd on the offer side broker #6835.

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-13 18:03

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原帖由 lafite2004 於 2007-7-13 05:08 PM 發表
My email address is

lafite2004@yahoo.com.hk

problem with the hotmail. Will send later.

作者: lafite2004 時間: 2007-7-13 19:57

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-13 10:03 發表

problem with the hotmail. Will send later.

Noted..................not in hurry.

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-13 20:05

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原帖由 lafite2004 於 2007-7-13 07:57 PM 發表

Noted..................not in hurry.

I sent 15 min. ago. Are you on MSN?

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-13 20:06

Found this link in the HKSE website.

http://www.hkex.com.hk/infra/tradmech/pfaq.doc

作者: lafite2004 時間: 2007-7-13 22:32

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-13 12:05 發表

I sent 15 min. ago. Are you on MSN?

On Yahoo.
Recd with thanks. :bird: :bird:

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作者: lafite2004 時間: 2007-7-13 22:34

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-13 12:06 發表
Found this link in the HKSE website.

http://www.hkex.com.hk/infra/tradmech/pfaq.doc

Got it .

Take some time to digest.

Thanks ............

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-13 23:06

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-13 20:06 發表
Found this link in the HKSE website.
http://www.hkex.com.hk/infra/tradmech/pfaq.doc

Many thanks. This is good info.

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-14 14:57

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原帖由 lafite2004 於 2007-7-13 10:32 PM 發表

On Yahoo.
Recd with thanks. :bird: :bird:

Sent you some notes at yahoo.

作者: lafite2004 時間: 2007-7-14 16:08

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-14 06:57 發表

Sent you some notes at yahoo.

Received with thanks.

You must be a genius ..........cool,clever, calculated investor/trader.

Apart from the money you gain , you must have win satisfaction.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-14 16:09

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原帖由 lafite2004 於 2007-7-14 16:08 發表
Received with thanks.
You must be a genius ..........cool,clever, calculated investor/trader.
Apart from the money you gain , you must have win satisfaction. :app ...

I am sure. And like some of my friends, already "retired" before reaching 40.

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-14 16:50

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-14 04:09 PM 發表

I am sure. And like some of my friends, already "retired" before reaching 40.

Unfortunately, I am still struggling for my imminent retirement. And I am well past 40.

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-14 16:54

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原帖由 lafite2004 於 2007-7-14 04:08 PM 發表

Received with thanks.

You must be a genius ..........cool,clever, calculated investor/trader.

Apart from the money you gain , you must have win satisfaction. :app ...

Thanks for the compliment but I only learned this trick by accident. I gained the first few times without fully understanding how it worked before I got caught up once. Fortunately for me, the loss was just a couple of thousand dollars and it was a small tuition fees to pay.

And unfortunately, I can only prey on the few stocks that I follow and these opportunites only came by a few times a year. This is my third for the year and it's July already.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-14 17:32

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-14 16:54 發表
Thanks for the compliment but I only learned this trick by accident. I gained the first few times without fully understanding how it worked before I got caught up once. Fortunately for me, ...

Anyway, you are smart. It is always much more easier to utilize money to make money rather than human to make money. You need brain power and some luck too! I have learned this long time ago!

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2007-7-14 17:42

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-14 05:32 PM 發表

It is always much more easier to utilize money to make money ...

I just took up an overdraft facility this morning with DBS for $350K.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-14 17:44

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2007-7-14 17:42 發表
I just took up an overdraft facility this morning with DBS for $350K.

Only $250K. I thought $3,500K.

By the way, what is the O/D rate?

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