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作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-7-24 02:02 標題: HSBC

Would HSBC go up in her report before next monday?

作者: vodkaboy 時間: 2007-7-24 12:37

匯控主要股東之一杜拜投資表示，匯控估值偏低，並料次按對其影響不大，加上雷曼唱好，該股今早終於重$145，最高見$145.6，現造$145.4，回升0.4%，成交521萬股。

雷曼昨天將匯控<0005.HK>評級調高至「增持」及目標價$175，以反映其業務增幅蓋過風險因素..

BUT IM DISAGREE.....NEXT WEEK WILL DROP TO $140....kekekekeke

作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-7-24 13:04

What factor to support you, HSBC can drop to 140?

作者: vodkaboy 時間: 2007-7-24 15:00

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-7-24 13:04 發表
What factor to support you, HSBC can drop to 140?

hehehe...i just blow water / make a joke...

but i hope it will happen next week~

作者: edison1610 時間: 2007-7-24 16:04

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作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-7-24 16:11

It could be, so many uncertainly there. It could affect the price of HSBC.
But still so many local fund houses set the target higher and higer on HSBC. Don't you think they are stupid to do that on their report?

作者: vodkaboy 時間: 2007-7-24 16:56

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-7-24 16:11 發表
It could be, so many uncertainly there. It could affect the price of HSBC.
But still so many local fund houses set the target higher and higer on HSBC. Don't you think they are stupid to do th ...

they set up the target higher becuase they want to sell their share on hand to you, hahahahahaha~

作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-7-24 17:01

Maybe, will see.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-24 17:03

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-7-24 02:02 發表
Would HSBC go up in her report before next monday?

Much better to use the fund to buy H shares. Most have moved significantly again today!

作者: vodkaboy 時間: 2007-7-24 17:14

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-24 17:03 發表

Much better to use the fund to buy H shares. Most have moved significantly again today!

991

作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-7-24 17:27

I already got 2628 and related call warrant, 2328, 939 call warrant, and some HSBC call warrant as well. It is a good run for today.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-24 18:05

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原帖由 vodkaboy 於 2007-7-24 17:14 發表
991

Too many to name!

作者: vodkaboy 時間: 2007-7-24 18:57

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-7-24 17:27 發表
I already got 2628 and related call warrant, 2328, 939 call warrant, and some HSBC call warrant as well. It is a good run for today.

i have HSI PUT WARRANT....keke~~

作者: I__want__U 時間: 2007-7-24 19:10

Target $160-

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-24 22:00

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原帖由 vodkaboy 於 2007-7-24 18:57 發表
i have HSI PUT WARRANT....keke~~

You are BRAVE indeed!

作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-7-25 00:04

Yes, too brave to have put warrant on HSBC.
I think it is better to have call warrant or cash out your stock, not that smart to buy put warrant in this market, too risky.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-25 16:18

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-7-25 00:04 發表
Yes, too brave to have put warrant on HSBC.
I think it is better to have call warrant or cash out your stock, not that smart to buy put warrant in this market, too risky.

PUT did well today!

作者: vodkaboy 時間: 2007-7-25 17:19

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-25 16:18 發表

PUT did well today!

lucky i sold my hsi warrant in the beginning of trade...made very little profit....

now im gambling the hsbc call warrant, bought in b4 market closed, hahahahaaha

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-25 17:36

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原帖由 vodkaboy 於 2007-7-25 17:19 發表
lucky i sold my hsi warrant in the beginning of trade...made very little profit....
now im gambling the hsbc call warrant, bought in b4 market closed, hahahahaaha

But more downside risk ...

作者: kenhk168 時間: 2007-7-25 17:48

Pls look at the future.
July future is 12 pt below HSI but August future is 30 pt above HSI.
HSBC will exdividend in August which mean the HSI will drop about 60 pt. By include this, Aug future is 90 pt above.
Why???
I think the big guy will push up HSBC after the result under the reason of HSBC is not as bad as they think before or HSBC will be better from this point onward.

作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-7-26 22:34

I think so too. HSBC could be pushed up after earning report on next monday.
I have bought a lot of call warrants of it, hopefully, HSBC will go up up up start next monday.

And all of us can take some profits on it.

作者: eatallcheesecak 時間: 2007-7-26 23:53

Dow is down near 200 pts now, and it will have a pressure on HSBC and its call warrants tomorrow.

作者: Water 時間: 2007-7-27 00:20

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-7-26 22:34 發表
I think so too. HSBC could be pushed up after earning report on next monday.
I have bought a lot of call warrants of it, hopefully, HSBC will go up up up start next monday.

And all of us can t ...

I hope so........I also have some call warrants of HSBC

作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-7-27 01:00

Yes, I hope so too.
Dow down 250 points now, and doesn't seem, it will have any rebound tonight, and HS index will probably drop 3~400 points at the beginning. It will be really critical for us and tomorrrow is friday too.

Wish better tomorrow like correction everytime before

作者: dana 時間: 2007-7-27 01:29

but..... if the index is going down, how can HSBC go up alone?

作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-7-27 01:42

HSBC can not go up alone for sure tomorrow.
The whole market will drop sharply tomorrow, the only thing we can do, either hold your stocks wait for next monday, or cut loss; or buy more shares after it dropped sharply tomorrow if you think the market bound back later.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-27 12:16

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-7-27 01:42 發表
HSBC can not go up alone for sure tomorrow.
The whole market will drop sharply tomorrow, the only thing we can do, either hold your stocks wait for next monday, or cut loss; or buy more shares a ...

Hold la.

作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-7-27 12:33

Yes, hold and hold, and I have bought more call warrant this morning too

作者: nonhuman 時間: 2007-7-27 14:31

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作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-7-27 15:43

1777, turnover is not very much, but expiry in april 2008, it is long one, therefore, it drops not much today. You may take a look at 7866

作者: nonhuman 時間: 2007-7-27 16:06

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作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-7-27 16:59

Yes, it could be risky for somebody, but think about it.
If you bought warrant, you are looking for short run(like gambling). It could be easily jump up and down in 1 or 2 days.

I am holding 5 M shares on 7866, and looking to sell it by middle of next week hopefully

作者: vodkaboy 時間: 2007-7-27 17:03

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-7-27 16:59 發表
Yes, it could be risky for somebody, but think about it.
If you bought warrant, you are looking for short run(like gambling). It could be easily jump up and down in 1 or 2 days.

I am holding 5 ...

Middle week of next month is a bit risky..but if u bought it at low price, then forget what i say~

作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-7-27 17:22

I am just thinking of till middle of next week, will see how it runs.
I bought it at 0.11 in average, I think it should be okay, moderate risky

作者: nonhuman 時間: 2007-7-30 15:31

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作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-7-30 16:08

Nonhuman just bought 1300 @ 0.56 which is not bad at all.
#5 and related call warrant up in the afternoon, now only need to do, is waiting for earning announment from #5, all we need from #5, is beat the estimate better than expectation.

Then we would be winners

作者: Sharp902 時間: 2007-7-30 16:48

I also got some 7866 @ 0.109, now HSBC's results are excellent, and looking forward to the price tomorrow

作者: ekwan2007 時間: 2007-7-30 16:50

<匯港通訊> 匯豐控股(0005)公布截至07年6月30日止中期業績,錄得股東應佔溢利108.95億美元,較06年同期增長25%,每股盈利0.95美元,第二次股息為中期息0.17美元，連同已派發第一之股息每股0.17美元內，比06年第一及第二次股息共增加13%。

該公司06年同期錄得純利87.29億美元。

巿場預測匯控中期盈利升3-14%，預測中位數為增長7%。

作者: eatallcheesecak 時間: 2007-7-30 17:07

Too bad that only ~1/3 of my buying order of a specific HSBC call can be filled.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-30 17:14

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原帖由 eatallcheesecak 於 2007-7-30 17:07 發表
Too bad that only ~1/3 of my buying order of a specific HSBC call can be filled.

Why focus on 1 CALL? There are so many HSBC warrants out there!

作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-7-30 17:33 標題: Reply #37 Sharp902's post

Good, 7866 is one of the most powerful call warrant of HSBC, it will rise dramatically tomorrow. Of course, it depends on how #5 runs tonight at ADR and tomorrow morning in HK market.

Cheers up

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-30 17:34

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-7-30 17:33 發表
Good, 7866 is one of the most powerful call warrant of HSBC, it will rise

Will put onto my radar!

作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-7-30 17:37

Yes, surely. Check that out tomorrow.
I am pretty confident on it since I told and bought it last week.

It is the time for rewards now

作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-7-30 18:06

At ADR, HSBC up over 2%

作者: eatallcheesecak 時間: 2007-7-30 18:08

May I know why buying numbers instead of 1? thanks.

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-7-30 05:14 PM 發表

Why focus on 1 CALL? There are so many HSBC warrants out there!

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-30 20:35

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原帖由 eatallcheesecak 於 2007-7-30 18:08 發表
May I know why buying numbers instead of 1? thanks.

There are too many!

作者: nonhuman 時間: 2007-7-31 07:56

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作者: nonhuman 時間: 2007-7-31 15:14

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作者: ekwan2007 時間: 2007-7-31 15:37

heng sang gone up by 10%, but hsbc only 2%, yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?

作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-7-31 15:39

I sold all my call warrant of HSBC this morning, only made 27%, still not bad. But far less than I expected last night.

It seemed all call warrant on HSBC and 2628 are being forced not to up today, pretty strange.

You are not bad, made money and run, smart way

作者: ytt 時間: 2007-7-31 16:26

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-7-31 15:39 發表

It seemed all call warrant on HSBC and 2628 are being forced not to up to ...

No one force
but market still doubt whether HSBC's rise in price could be keep on
if price of HSBS becomes stagnant again
warrant would be eroded by time

作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-7-31 17:15

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Originally posted by ytt at 2007-7-31 16:26

No one force
but market still doubt whether HSBC's rise in price could be keep on
if price of HSBS becomes stagnant again
warrant would be eroded by time

Curious to ask, 2628 seems strong, but related call warrants did not really go up , some are even dropped.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-7-31 17:19

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-7-31 17:15 發表
Curious to ask, 2628 seems strong, but related call warrants did not really go up , some are even dropped.

That's exactly the danger with warrants!

作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-7-31 17:36

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Originally posted by peninsula at 2007-7-31 17:19

That's exactly the danger with warrants!

Yes, it is. Highly risky and higly return.
As same as gambling at casino, no different

作者: nonhuman 時間: 2007-7-31 18:14

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作者: ytt 時間: 2007-7-31 19:51

I think in trading warrants, what needs to be consider is more than that for trading normal stocks.
that is, You have to consider what other warrants traders think

Everybody thinks today is good day to materilize the profits for their call warrants. So everybody sell. And price of the warrant don't go up even the stock rise.

作者: eatallcheesecak 時間: 2007-7-31 22:54

The DowJones is doing awkward in the past hour, from over 120pts up to just only 27pts up.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-8-1 09:00

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原帖由 eatallcheesecak 於 2007-7-31 22:54 發表
The DowJones is doing awkward in the past hour, from over 120pts up to just only 27pts up.

Yes but I believe impact on HK will be minimal.

作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-8-1 09:53

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Originally posted by peninsula at 2007-8-1 09:00

Yes but I believe impact on HK will be minimal.

I agreed with you. Minor and short term effect from Dow, not much. HK market still supported by central govt

作者: eatallcheesecak 時間: 2007-8-1 10:46

Speaking for myself, I personally think the risk on betting on warrants is smaller than on betting in casino.

Indeed, I lost 6000 in casino on monday.

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-7-31 05:36 PM 發表
Yes, it is. Highly risky and higly return.
As same as gambling at casino, no different

作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-8-1 10:51

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Originally posted by eatallcheesecak at 2007-8-1 10:46
Speaking for myself, I personally think the risk on betting on warrants is smaller than on betting in casino.

Indeed, I lost 6000 in casino on monday.

Actually, pretty much the same, it is only on timing.
You can make double or nothing in a minute in casino
You can make or lose same amount of money on warrants too. Sometimes, you can make or lose 50% from warrant in a second, same as in casino. eg: you spent 12K on warrant, and lost 50% in the opening. You paper value already lost 6K. Of course, you can wait for it rebound.

I actually love both games; high risk with high return(loss) too

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-8-1 12:31

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原帖由 eatallcheesecak 於 2007-8-1 10:46 發表
Speaking for myself, I personally think the risk on betting on warrants is smaller than on betting in casino.
Indeed, I lost 6000 in casino on monday.

A lot of people lost big today on HSBC Call and HSI Call.

作者: mmr.ren 時間: 2007-8-1 12:34

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-8-1 04:31 發表

A lot of people lost big today on HSBC Call and HSI Call.

faint... HSBC call and HSI call... not much reason to call indeed.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-8-1 12:36

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原帖由 mmr.ren 於 2007-8-1 12:34 發表
faint... HSBC call and HSI call... not much reason to call indeed.

Maybe CRY instead!

作者: mmr.ren 時間: 2007-8-1 12:46

你話 call 乜輪呢...

put 乜輪!!!!!!!!!!!!

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-8-1 13:52

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原帖由 mmr.ren 於 2007-8-1 12:46 發表
你話 call 乜輪呢...
put 乜輪!!!!!!!!!!!!

PUT HSI index and #941.

作者: mmr.ren 時間: 2007-8-1 14:17

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作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-8-1 14:36

At this moment, hold what you have on hand, no buy or sell

作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-8-1 14:44

At this moment, hold what you have on hand, no buy or sell

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-8-1 15:28

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-8-1 14:44 發表
At this moment, hold what you have on hand, no buy or sell

SELL.

作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-8-1 16:01

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Originally posted by peninsula at 2007-8-1 15:28

SELL.

Do you think so, I bought some 2628 at 31.75 today. If market going down more, then I will buy more on some potential stocks for long run

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-8-1 16:50

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-8-1 16:01 發表
Do you think so, I bought some 2628 at 31.75 today. If market going down more, then I will buy more on some potential stocks for long run

Likely to fall further. I would buy only if below $30.

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作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-8-1 17:38

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Originally posted by peninsula at 2007-8-1 16:50

Likely to fall further. I would buy only if below $30.

Yes, right. I agreed what you have said. Of course, I will buy more when it dropped below 30. It is good for long term

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-8-1 17:44

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原帖由 3a4b5c6c 於 2007-8-1 17:38 發表
Yes, right. I agreed what you have said. Of course, I will buy more when it dropped below 30. It is good for long term

If #2328 falls back to $9.50, will be good to buy too.

作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-8-1 18:00

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Originally posted by peninsula at 2007-8-1 17:44

If #2328 falls back to $9.50, will be good to buy too.

I have no idea on 2328 since it is dramatically up over 25% in a week. Maybe it is okay to buy if under $9.50.

I think 939 and 2899 are good to buy during this correction.

作者: wishinghappy 時間: 2007-8-4 01:59

good news Target $170

作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-8-4 02:41

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Originally posted by wishinghappy at 2007-8-4 01:59
good news Target $170

Yes, many fund houses set her target price between 165~175. 20% profit plus interest from today closed

作者: vodkaboy 時間: 2007-8-4 11:44

I WILL SELL ALL SHARES ON MONDAY~~ NOT LOOKING GOOD...

作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-8-4 12:42

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Originally posted by vodkaboy at 2007-8-4 11:44
I WILL SELL ALL SHARES ON MONDAY~~ NOT LOOKING GOOD...

It is okay and not a bad idea as long as you feel okay to do so, it depends on how much risk you can handle and point of view, everyone is different.

Can cash out and wait for another round coming

作者: eatallcheesecak 時間: 2007-8-5 19:13

The good thing is I sold my HSBC call the next day following its earning announcement, and with almost a 50% gain in 3 days.

But, the bad thing is my whole profolio is down 6-7 figures in the past week.

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-8-1 12:31 PM 發表

A lot of people lost big today on HSBC Call and HSI Call.

作者: 3a4b5c6c 時間: 2007-8-5 20:38

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Originally posted by eatallcheesecak at 2007-8-5 19:13
The good thing is I sold my HSBC call the next day following its earning announcement, and with almost a 50% gain in 3 days.

But, the bad thing is my whole profolio is down 6-7 figures in the pa ...

Same to me too; I sold all my HSBC call warrant next day after earning annuouncement too, made 30% from it in a week.

Yes, I also lost 15% of my profolio last week too

Hope to recover all soon

作者: peninsula 時間: 2007-8-5 22:14

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原帖由 wishinghappy 於 2007-8-4 01:59 發表
good news Target $170

HSBC, right?

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