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作者: Garfield    時間: 2006-8-18 17:02     標題: CLASSICAL

古典分享.......!

傻事一則.......

因為做野要拎部 NC 返公司用，隊左隻 "德九" 落去聽，後果係：......................

消喇叭
作者: 益力多    時間: 2006-8-18 17:12

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古典分享.......!

傻事一則.......

因為做野要拎部 NC 返公司用，隊左隻 "德九" 落去聽，後果係：......................

消喇叭
有新喇叭聽
作者: Garfield    時間: 2006-8-18 17:33

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有新喇叭聽
至慘係消內置果對呢!!
作者: 益力多    時間: 2006-8-18 17:44

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至慘係消內置果對呢!!
有新機用喇
作者: 祖雲達斯    時間: 2006-8-18 21:34

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古典分享.......!

傻事一則.......

因為做野要拎部 NC 返公司用，隊左隻 "德九" 落去聽，後果係：......................

消喇叭
德伏扎克第九交響樂？邊個指揮？
我少聽佢既作品，但我極之喜歡佢既歌劇: Rusalka
作者: Garfield    時間: 2006-8-18 21:41

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德伏扎克第九交響樂？邊個指揮？
我少聽佢既作品，但我極之喜歡佢既歌劇: Rusalka
The Houston Symphony
Christoph Eschenbach

唔算出名，但係都幾ok!

早幾日返黎開會o係中環妙韻買，果樹classical 大減價買!
作者: 祖雲達斯    時間: 2006-8-18 21:53

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The Houston Symphony
Christoph Eschenbach

唔算出名，但係都幾ok!

早幾日返黎開會o係中環妙韻買，果樹classical 大減價買!
咁耐都未去過你介紹呢間野度睇，呢排窮窮地，比較多行二手舖，唔好處係好似尋寶咁，好野大多數俾人買去炒:@:@
作者: Garfield    時間: 2006-8-18 21:56

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原帖由 祖雲達斯 於 2006-8-18 21:53 發表

咁耐都未去過你介紹呢間野度睇，呢排窮窮地，比較多行二手舖，唔好處係好似尋寶咁，好野大多數俾人買去炒:@:@
有時間o既都值得去行下，減價減得幾平下.....
作者: 祖雲達斯    時間: 2006-8-18 22:07

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有時間o既都值得去行下，減價減得幾平下.....
一定！一定！
最近有乜野推介？
作者: Garfield    時間: 2006-8-18 22:22

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原帖由 祖雲達斯 於 2006-8-18 22:07 發表

一定！一定！
最近有乜野推介？
都有d筍野，執左Weiner 貝1,3,4,6,7,8,9.......馬9, 德9, 拉2,3鋼協.....旦旦

都係幾兜野一隻.......
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-18 22:32

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原帖由 Garfield 於 2006-8-18 09:41 PM 發表


The Houston Symphony
Christoph Eschenbach

唔算出名，但係都幾ok!

早幾日返黎開會o係中環妙韻買，果樹classical 大減價買!
呢隻 1941 年錄音至係天下無敵!!!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product ... ie=UTF8&s=music



不過香港冇得賣, 要上 amazon.com 訂, 二手 CD 最平 US$1.99 有交易, 唔聽係你損失, 信者得救!!!!!







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作者: 祖雲達斯    時間: 2006-8-18 22:36

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都有d筍野，執左Weiner 貝1,3,4,6,7,8,9.......馬9, 德9, 拉2,3鋼協.....旦旦

都係幾兜野一隻.......
睇黎你鍾意聽交響樂喎！以前我都買幾多，貝多芬、柴可夫斯基所有交響樂我都有齊，卡拉揚指揮，柏林愛樂交響響團演奏，後尾聽聽下比較多聽歌劇
你有冇興趣架？
作者: 祖雲達斯    時間: 2006-8-18 22:41

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原帖由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-18 22:32 發表


呢隻 1941 年錄音至係天下無敵!!!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product ... ie=UTF8&s=music

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/imag ...
Willem Mengelberg我未聽過佢既指揮，有機會要聽聽
作者: Garfield    時間: 2006-8-18 22:42

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原帖由 祖雲達斯 於 2006-8-18 22:36 發表

睇黎你鍾意聽交響樂喎！以前我都買幾多，貝多芬、柴可夫斯基所有交響樂我都有齊，卡拉揚指揮，柏林愛樂交響響團演奏，後尾聽聽下比較多聽歌劇
你有冇興趣架？
都間中有聽歌劇，不過始終鐘意交響樂既仔層次同氣勢多ｄ，加上技術都會比 pop 高dd!!
作者: Garfield    時間: 2006-8-18 22:45

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原帖由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-18 22:32 發表


呢隻 1941 年錄音至係天下無敵!!!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product ... ie=UTF8&s=music

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/imag ...
冇玩hi-fi 之後都冇咁著重錄音囉..... 指揮同樂團睇先d!
作者: Garfield    時間: 2006-8-18 22:49

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原帖由 祖雲達斯 於 2006-8-18 22:36 發表

柏林愛樂交響響團演奏
舊年有去香港表演，不過賣成千銀唔捨得去聽！！

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作者: 祖雲達斯    時間: 2006-8-18 22:53

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都間中有聽歌劇，不過始終鐘意交響樂既仔層次同氣勢多ｄ，加上技術都會比 pop 高dd!!
同意！可能我個人懶左，所以選擇比較易明既音樂
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-18 22:55

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原帖由 祖雲達斯 於 2006-8-18 10:41 PM 發表

Willem Mengelberg我未聽過佢既指揮，有機會要聽聽
聽 Orchestral Music 絕對唔可以唔聽 Willem Mengelberg, 論輩份, 佢係 Beethoven 四傳弟子, 同 Mahler 係好朋友 Mahler 在世時, 認為只有佢大徒弟 Oskar Fried 同 Willem Mengelberg 至係佢值得信任演繹佢自己�H作品�H指揮家, Richard Strauss 亦將交響詩《英雄的一生》題獻俾 Mengelberg, Mengelberg 亦係復興 baroque music �H先驅之一......


仲有, 我幅「車頭相」就係 1910 年�H Willem Mengelberg!!!



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作者: 祖雲達斯    時間: 2006-8-18 22:59

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舊年有去香港表演，不過賣成千銀唔捨得去聽！！
一生點都要豪一次既
可惜我都冇去
作者: 祖雲達斯    時間: 2006-8-18 23:01

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聽 Orchestral Music 絕對唔可以唔聽 Willem Mengelberg, 論輩份, 佢係 Beethoven 四傳弟子, 同 Mahler 係好朋友 Mahler 在世時, 認為只有佢大徒弟 Oskar Fried 同 Willem Mengelberg 至係佢值得信任演繹佢自 ...
Louis兄見識廣博，佩服！
作者: Garfield    時間: 2006-8-18 23:05

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原帖由 祖雲達斯 於 2006-8-18 23:01 發表

Louis兄見識廣博，佩服！
同上
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-18 23:21

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原帖由 祖雲達斯 於 2006-8-18 11:01 PM 發表

Louis兄見識廣博，佩服！
唔敢!!! 唔敢!!!

其實呢 D 都係多得一位學作曲�H朋友教我, 佢識好多嘢, 亦係超級 Mahler fans。
作者: Big Rock    時間: 2006-8-19 04:47

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作者: Garfield    時間: 2006-8-19 09:37

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抵死你唔好隊隻Telarc嘅柴記1812？
德9可能爆過1812??!
作者: 祖雲達斯    時間: 2006-8-20 01:18

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唔敢!!! 唔敢!!!

其實呢 D 都係多得一位學作曲�H朋友教我, 佢識好多嘢, 亦係超級 Mahler fans。
講起馬勒，就自然諗起伯恩斯坦，佢係馬勒既推崇者，亦都係佢將馬勒既音樂發揚光大！
作者: 祖雲達斯    時間: 2006-8-20 01:21

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抵死你唔好隊隻Telarc嘅柴記1812？
當年既試機天碟
作者: 祖雲達斯    時間: 2006-8-20 01:25

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德9可能爆過1812??!
1812用左大量敲擊樂去營造大炮及撞擊既氣紛，可惜我唔太欣賞
作者: Big Rock    時間: 2006-8-20 01:48

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其實1812最啱要嚟試音之外，柴記呢首作品可以用四個字形容：大而無當
大石都有聽classical？咁就多Ｄ入黎吹下水啦！
作者: uknowzip    時間: 2006-8-20 02:58

Fryderyk Franciszek Chopin... anyone?
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-20 03:36

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Fryderyk Franciszek Chopin... anyone?


Alfred Cortot, 蕭邦徒孫。


試聽:


http://www.musicandarts.com/CDpages/CD717hi.html

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作者: Garfield    時間: 2006-8-20 14:23

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大石都有聽classical？咁就多Ｄ入黎吹下水啦！
大石都係 hi-fi 友，梗係聽classical啦！
作者: Garfield    時間: 2006-8-20 14:27

Louis 哥對古典音樂知識廣博，請多ｄ入黎指導下！
作者: Garfield    時間: 2006-8-20 19:11




Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (1756 - 1791)
Serenade in G, K.525 "Eine kleine Nachtmusik"
Orchestral version
Track 1  
1. Allegro  [5:44]

Track 2  
2. Romance (Andante)  [5:52]

Track 3  
3. Menuetto (Allegretto)  [2:12]

Track 4  
4. Rondo (Allegro)  [3:51]

I Musici, Pina Carmirelli  




Franz Joseph Haydn (1732 - 1809)
String Quartet in F, H.III No.17, Op.3 No.5 - "Serenade"
Track 5  
2. Andante cantabile  [3:22]



Tomaso Albinoni (1671 - 1750)
Adagio for Strings and Organ in G minor
Track 6  
Arr. by Remo Giazotto  [9:16]



Johann Pachelbel (1653 - 1706)
Track 7  
Canon in D  [4:42]



Luigi Boccherini (1743 - 1805)
Track 8  
Minuet from String Quintet in E, Op.13, No.5  [4:03]



Ludwig van Beethoven (1770 - 1827)
Track 9  
Minuet in G, WoO 10 No.2  [2:46]

I Musici  


Total Playing Time: [41:53]
作者: uknowzip    時間: 2006-8-20 22:56

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Alfred Cortot, 蕭邦徒孫。


試聽:


http://www.musicandarts.com/CDpages/CD717hi.html
Thanks a lot. Anymore "free lunch"?
作者: uknowzip    時間: 2006-8-20 22:58

Yo Yo Ma anyone?
作者: Garfield    時間: 2006-8-20 23:12



Maria Callas: life and Art




Passion Callas




Maria Callas at Covent Garden




La Callas Toujours




Maria Callas in Concert




The Callas Conversation

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作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-20 23:15

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Thanks a lot. Anymore "free lunch"?


試聽:

http://www.musicandarts.com/CDpages/CD4632.html
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-20 23:24

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Yo Yo Ma anyone?
大提琴梗係 Pablo Casals (1876-1973) 啦!!!


PABLO CASALS (Cellist, Conductor)


Born: December 29, 1876 - Vendrell, Catalonia, Spain
Died: October 22, 1973 – San Juan, Puerto Rico

In grammophone history, or even the music history, the greatest cellist should always be Pablo Casals (1876-1973). He was the first one who performed and recorded J.S. Bach's unaccompained cello suite (at least the first one in 20th century)! Here I attach a brief biography of this great musician:

Source: http://www.bach-cantatas.com/Bio/Casals-Pablo.htm

The great Spanich cellist (and conductor) Pablo Casals (actually, Pau Carlos Salvador Defilló), legend has it, supported by Casals himself, that he was conceived when Brahms began his B-flat Major Quartet, of which Casals owned the original manuscript, and that he was born when Brahms completed its composition. This legend is rendered moot by the fact that the quartet in question was completed and performed before Casals was even born. But even the ascertainable facts of the life of Casals make it a glorious tale. His father, the parish organist and choirmaster in Vendrell, gave Casals instruction in piano, violin, and organ. When Casals was 11, he first heard the cello performed by a group of traveling musicians, and decided to study the instrument. In 1888 his mother took him to Barcelona, where he enrolled in the Escuela Municipal de Música. There he studied cello with José García, theory with José Rodoreda, and piano with Joaquín Malats and Francisco Costa Llobera. His progress as a cellist was nothing short of prodigious, and he was able to give a solo recital in Barcelona at the age of 14, on February 23, 1891; he graduated with honors in 1893.

Albéniz, who heard him play in a cafe trio, gave him a 1etter of introduction to Count Morphy, the private secretary to María Cristina, the Queen Regent, in Madrid. Casals was asked to play at informal concerts in the palace, and was granted a royal stipend for composition study with Tomás Bretón. In 1893 he entered the Conservatory de Musica y Declamacion in Madrid, where he attended chamber music classes of Jesus de Monasterio. He also played in the newly organized Quartet Society there (1894-1895). In 1895 he went to Paris and, deprived of his stipend from Spain, earned a living by playing 2nd cello in the theater orchestra of the Folies Marigny. He decided to return to Spain, where he received, in 1896, an appointment to the faculty of the Escuela Municipal de Música in Barcelona; he was also principal cellist in the orchestra of the Gran Teatro del Liceo. In 1897 he appeared as soloist with the Madrid Symphony Orchestra, and was awarded the Order of Carlos III from the Queen. His caree. as a cello virtuoso was then assured.

In 1899 he played at. the Crystal Palace in London, and later for Queen Victoria at her summer residence at Cowes, Isle of Wight. On November 12, 1899, he appeared as a soloist at a prestigious Lamoureux Concert in Paris, and played with Lamoureux again on December 17, 1899, obtaining exceptional success With both the public and the press. He toured Spain and the Netherlands with the pianist Harold Bauer (1900-1901); then made his first tour of the USA (1901-1902). In 1903 he made a grand tour of South America. On January 15, 1904, he was invited to play at the White House for President Theodore Roosevelt. In 1906 he became associated with the talented young Portuguese cellist Guilhermina Suggia, who studied with him and began to appear in concerts as Mme. P. Casals-Suggia, although they were not legally married. Their liaison was dissolved in 1912; in 1914 Casals married the American socialite and singer Susan Metcalfe; they were separated in 1928, but did not divorce until 1957.

Continuing his brilliant career, Casals organized, in Paris, a concert trio with the piariist Cortot and the violinist Thibaud; they played concerts together until 1937. Casals also became interested in conducting, and in 1919 he organized, in Barcelona, the Orquesta Pall Casals and led itsftrst concert on October 13, 1920. With the outbreak of the Spanish Civil War in 1936, the Orquesta Pau Casals ceased its activities. Casals was an ardent supporter of the Spanish Republican government, and after its defeat vowed never to return to Spain until democracy was restored. He settled in the French village of Prades, on the Spanish frontier; between 1939 and 1942 he made sporadic appearances as a cellist in the unoccupied zone of southern France and in Switzerland. So fierce was his opposition to the Franco regime in Spain that he declined to appear in countries that recognized the totalitarian Spanish government, making an exception when he took part ill a concert of chamber music in the White House on November 13, 1961, at the invitation of President John F. Kennedy, whom he admired.

In 1950 he resumed his career as conductor and cellist at the Prades Festival, organized in commemoration of the bicentennial of the death of Bach; he continued leading the Prades Festivals until 1966. He made his permanent residence in 1956, when he settled in San Juan, Puerto Rico (his mother was born there when the island was still under Spanish rule). In 1957 an annual Festival Casals was inaugurated there. During all these years, he developed energetic activities as a pedagogue, leading master classes in Switzerland, Italy, Berkeley, California, and Marlboro, Vermount, some of which were televised.

Casals was also a composer; perhaps his most effective work is La sardana, for an ensemble of cellos, which he composed in 1926. His oratorio El pessebre (The Manger) was performed for the first time in Acapulco, Mexico, on December 17, 1960. One of his last compositions was the Himno a las Naciones Unidas (Hymn of the United Nations); he conducted its ftrst performance in a special concert at the United Nations on October 24, 1971, 2 months before his 95th birthday. On August 3, 1957, at the age of 80, Casals married his young pupil Marta Montañez; following his death, she married the pianist Eugene Istomin, on February 15, 1975. Casals did not live to see the liberation of Spain from the Franco dictatorship, but he was posthumously honored by the Spanish government under King Juan Carlos I, which issued in 1976 a commemorative postage stamp in honor of his 100th birthday.


Source: Baker's Biographical Dictionary of 20th Century Classical Musicians (1997)
Contributed by Aryeh Oron (March 2002)

For more detail info. about Pablo Casals please click into:

http://www.cello.org/casals/casals.htm

For those like cello music, Pablo Casals is a MUST for you. He recorded hundreds of great recordings in his long life time, from acoustic 78's to stereo era.

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作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-20 23:25

Essential CDs :

1. Casals Plays Brahms, Boccherini and Haydn    (Pearl GEMM 9363)

Composers: Johannes Brahms, Luigi Boccherini, Franz Joseph Haydn
Performers: Casals, Pablo (Cello), Thibaud, Jacques (Violin), Horszowski, Mieczyslaw (Piano), Net, Blas (Piano)
Orchestras/Ensemble: Casals Orchestra
Conductor: Alfred Cortot

Work Lists:
1. Concerto for Violin and Cello in A minor, Op. 102 "Double"
Composer: Johannes Brahms
Written: 1887
Conductor: Cortot, Alfred
Ensemble: Casals Orchestra
Performer: Casals, Pablo; Thibaud, Jacques

2. Sonata for Cello and Piano no 2 in F major, Op. 99
Composer: Johannes Brahms
Written: 1886

3. Sonata for Cello and Basso Continuo in A major, G 4
Composer: Luigi Boccherini
Written: by 1770

4. Sonata for Cello and Basso Continuo in C major, G 6: Adagio
Composer: Luigi Boccherini
Written: by 1770

5. Minuet in C major
Composer: Franz Joseph Haydn

The Brahms' cello sonata is so impressive to me especially for the second movement where the beginning has a jazz like feel (though the period of this work is before the jazz era). The double concerto  for cello and violin is certainly the best version. The orchestra was conducted by Alfred Cortot, who is usually considered a great pianist for his interpretation of the works by Chopin, Schuman and French Works. He was also a great conductor.

2.Bach: Cello Suites, etc / Pablo Casals, et al    (Pearl GEMM 0045)

Composer: Johann Sebastian Bach
Performers: Casals, Pablo (Cello), Mednikoff, Nicolai (Piano), Net, Blas (Piano), Schulhof, Otto (Piano

As I mentioned before, Casals was the first one who recorded Bach's cello suite. In this CD you may hear how great this Bach expert is.

3.Dvorak, Boccherini, Bruch: Cello Concertos / Pablo Casals   

Composers: Antonin Dvorak, Luigi Boccherini, Max Bruch
Performer: Casals, Pablo (Cello)
Orchestras/Ensembles: Czech Philharmonic Orchestra, London Symphony Orchestra

Works Listing:
1. Concerto for Cello in B minor, Op. 104/B 191
Composer: Antonin Dvorak
Written: 1894-1895
Conductor: Szell, George
Ensemble: Czech Philharmonic Orchestra
Performer: Casals, Pablo

2. Concerto for Cello no 9 in B flat major, G 482
Composer: Luigi Boccherini
Written: ?1785
Conductor: Ronald, Landon
Ensemble: London Symphony Orchestra
Performer: Casals, Pablo

3. Kol Nidrei for Cello and Orchestra, Op. 47
Composer: Max Bruch
Written: 1881
Conductor: Ronald, Landon
Ensemble: London Symphony Orchestra
Performer: Casals, Pablo

4.The Early Years - Beethoven: Chamber Music / Casals, et al (Image Unavailable)
Catalog#: 2PM3 438520
Label: Philips
Composer: Ludwig van Beethoven
Performers: Casals, Pablo (Cello), Horszowski, Mieczyslaw (Piano), Kempff, Wilhelm (Piano), Vegh, Sandor (Violin), Engel, Karl (Piano)

Works Listing:
1. Sonata for Horn and Piano in F major, Op. 17
Composer: Ludwig van Beethoven
Written: 1800

2. Sonata for Cello and Piano no 1 in F major, Op. 5 no 1
Composer: Ludwig van Beethoven
Written: 1796

3. Sonata for Cello and Piano no 2 in G minor, Op. 5 no 2
Composer: Ludwig van Beethoven
Written: 1796

4. Sonata for Cello and Piano no 5 in D major, Op. 102
Composer: Ludwig van Beethoven
Written: 1815

5. Trio for Piano and Strings no 3 in C minor, Op. 1 no 3
Composer: Ludwig van Beethoven
Written: 1794-1795

6. Trio for Piano and Strings no 5 in D major, Op. 70 no 1 "Ghost"
Composer: Ludwig van Beethoven
Written: 1808

7. Trio for Piano and Strings no 7 in B flat major, Op. 97 "Archduke"
Composer: Ludwig van Beethoven
Written: 1810-1811

聽過 Casals, 「馬友」可以從此掉落焚化爐!!!
作者: uknowzip    時間: 2006-8-20 23:42

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原帖由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-20 11:25 PM 發表
Essential CDs :

1. Casals Plays Brahms, Boccherini and Haydn    (Pearl GEMM 9363)
http://art.towerrecords.com/cove ... amp;X=178&Y=178
Composers: Johannes Brahms, Luigi Bocch ...
awesome!
作者: uknowzip    時間: 2006-8-21 03:41

Louis 兄... any piano ensemble?... and may I know how you can manage to type that fast?

[ 本帖最後由 uknowzip 於 2006-8-21 03:48 AM 編輯 ]
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-21 08:23

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原帖由 uknowzip 於 2006-8-21 03:41 AM 發表
Louis 兄... any piano ensemble?... and may I know how you can manage to type that fast?
呢 D 資料 3 年前我貼過喺一個英文討論區, 轉貼返過嚟就得。關於演奏家 biolographies 我都係 copy from 其他網站。
作者: 珠公主    時間: 2006-8-21 18:39

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原帖由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-18 22:55 發表


聽 Orchestral Music 絕對唔可以唔聽 Willem Mengelberg, 論輩份, 佢係 Beethoven 四傳弟子, 同 Mahler 係好朋友 Mahler 在世時, 認為只有佢大徒弟 Oskar Fried 同 Willem Mengelberg 至係佢值得信任演繹佢自 ...
louis兄o既音樂知識真係令小妹佩服不已!! 以後要多多指教!!

亦同意Willem Mengelberg係復興baroque period 作品o既重要靈魂, 尤其係佢做o左 Concertgebouw Orchestra Amsterdam o既musical director!之後!!
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-22 21:46

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原帖由 珠公主 於 2006-8-21 06:39 PM 發表

louis兄o既音樂知識真係令小妹佩服不已!! 以後要多多指教!!

亦同意Willem Mengelberg係復興baroque period 作品o既重要靈魂, 尤其係佢做o左 Concertgebouw O ...
Willem Mengelberg 1939 年�H St. Matthew's Passion (J.S. Bach) 聖枝主日 Live Recording 正係 Baroque Choral Music �H絕響!!!

作者: my709394.    時間: 2006-8-23 01:39

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原帖由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-22 09:46 PM 發表
路過一問~以我所知亞德蘭修女/教宗若望保祿二世喪禮時星雲法師都有出席,在同一「道理」下,1989年卡拉揚喪禮時又有冇「異類」音樂人出席?
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-23 01:58

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原帖由 my709394. 於 2006-8-23 01:39 AM 發表

路過一問~以我所知亞德蘭修女/教宗若望保祿二世喪禮時星雲法師都有出席,在同一「道理」下,1989年卡拉揚喪禮時又有冇「異類」音樂人出席?
呢樣冇乜 idea, 不過我對卡叔冇乜好感, 功力係有, 但係衰在江湖氣多過藝術氣, 而且太過唯利是圖, 係又錄, 唔係又錄, 好多作品作品好似 Bach, Vivaldi 同 Haydn 根本唔啱佢咀型, 照錄可也, 大交行貨, 所以佢有好多錄音會俾人「手中有劍, 心中無劍�H」�H感覺!!!
作者: 中國人    時間: 2006-8-23 14:09

如果我剛開始聽 Classical 有咩基礎知識要知的啊？
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-23 15:51

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原帖由 中國人 於 2006-8-23 02:09 PM 發表
如果我剛開始聽 Classical 有咩基礎知識要知的啊？
最好讀下音樂史, 睇多 D 關於演奏家0既書 (不過唔好盡信, 要靠自己分析)。
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-23 16:02

以下係幾款初聽古典必備 CD, 全部由錄音史上頂級大師演繹, 有 D 香港買唔到, 要上網訂:

1. Bach Guild - Vivaldi: The Four Seasons, etc / Tomasow, et al

Composer: Antonio Vivaldi
Performers: Tomasow, Jan (Violin), Heiller, Anton (Harpsichord), Ganoci, Anton (Mandolin), Pavlinek, Ferdo (Mandolin), Wobisch, Helmut (Trumpet), Holler, Adolf (Trumpet)
Orchestras/Ensemble: I Solisti di Zagreb
Conductor: Janigro, Antonio

Igor Stravinsky, the great Russian composer, considered this version of  The Four Seasons "The best interpretation of this work during the past twenty years".

The conductor Antonio Janigro (1918-1989) was an expert in 18th century music "discovered" by Pablo Casals (1876-1973), the father of cellist.

Besides the best version of Vivaldi's "Four Seasons", I highly recommend the "Concerto for 2 Mandolins" in this CD. The interpretation is so elegant.

The recording years are from 1957-1964 that we called "the golden era of recordings". The sound effect of "vaccum tube stereo" in this CD I consider much better than modern digital recordings.

You may compare this version with N Kennedy's and you'll find that why he should be completely forgotten. :

2. Serenata - A Bouquet of Favorites for Strings

Composers: Tomaso Albinoni, Arcangelo Corelli, Luigi Boccherini, Maria Theresia Paradis, Ottorino Respighi, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Ralph Vaughan Williams, Gio Battista Pergolesi, Jean Sibelius, Samuel Barber, Franz Joseph Haydn
Performer: Baker, Julius (Flute)
Orchestras/Ensemble: I Solisti di Zagreb
Conductor: Janigro, Antonio

Another great recording by Antonio Janigro with "Ultra Analog Stereo".

3. William Boyce Eight Symphonies

Composer: William Boyce
Conductor: Antonio Janigro
Performer: Herbert Tachezi
Label: Vanguard Classics - #46

4.Stokowski Conducts Vivaldi/Bach/Corelli/Mozart

Composer: Antonio Vivaldi, Johann Sebastian Bach, et al.
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Performer: Igor Kipnis
Label: Vanguard Classics - #8009

This CD also contains the best version of Correli's "Christmas Concerto". About the great conductor Leopold Stokowski (1882-1977), I'll post his biography later here.

5. Mozart: Serenades et Divertimenti Vol 2 / Sandor Vegh   

1. Serenade no 13 in G major, K 525 "Eine kleine Nachtmusik"
2. Serenade no 6 in D major, K 239 "Serenata notturna"
3. Divertimento for String Quartet in B flat major, K 137 (125b)
4. Divertimento for String Quartet in D major, K 136 (125a)
Conductor: Vegh, Sandor
Ensemble: Salzburg Mozarteum Camerata Academica

Sander Vegh (1905?-1997) is one of the greatest conductor in the music of Mozart and Hydan. He is also a great violinist. One of his teacher is the great violinist Jeno Hubay (1858-1937).

His version of Mozart's "Eine kleine Nachtmusik" K525 is the best stereo version. It's so magnificent! You can compare it with other "routine" performances.

6.Jascha Horenstein conducts Mozart: Symphonies, etc   

Composer: Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
Performers: Lipp, Wilma (Soprano), Ludwig, Christa (Mezzo Soprano), Dickie, Murray (Tenor), Berry, Walter (Bass Baritone)
Orchestras/Ensemble: Vienna Symphony Orchestra
Conductor: Horenstein, Jascha
Label: Vox Box Legends

1. Symphony no 41 in C major, K 551 "Jupiter"
2. Symphony no 38 in D major, K 504 "rague"
3. Mass in C major, K 317 "Coronation"
4. Symphony no 39 in E flat major, K 543
5. Vesperae solennes de confessore, K 339

A MUST FOR YOU !!!

7. Bach: Brandenburg Concertos / Jascha Horenstein   

Composer: Johann Sebastian Bach
Written: 1708-1710
Conductor: Horenstein, Jascha
Ensemble: Vienna Symphony Chamber Orchestra
Label: Vox Box Legends
It's the very first recording of this work in original instruments of 18th century.

8. Beethoven: Piano Concertos Nos. 4 & 5 / Schnabel/Stock/Chicago Symphony Orchestra   

This is an ideal CD as an introduction of Beethoven's music. The pianist Artur Schnabel (1882-1951) was called "the one who invent Beethoven". I'll post his biography here later. This is his best version of these 2 concertos.

9. Bach: The Well-Tempered Clavier, Book I & II

Composer: Johann Sebastian Bach
Performer: Wanda Landowska
Wanda Landowska (1879-1959) is the greatest interpretor in 18th century keyboard music. Detail information will be posted later. These 2 CD box sets include the teaching notes written by the performer.

10. Baroque Esprit - Handel: Music for the Royal Fireworks, etc   

1. Music for the Royal Fireworks, HWV 351
2. Water Music, HWV 348-350

Collegium Aureum is one of the most important orchestra in performing 18th century music. This version of Water Music & Royal Firework is the best one I've ever heard!

11.Rameau: Ballet Suites, Dardanus / Collegium Aureum   

Composer: Jean-Philippe Rameau
Orchestras/Ensemble: Collegium Aureum
Jean-Philippe Rameau 1683-1764

Avid reader of Zarlino, Kircher, and Descartes, as a youth Rameau set out to discover the laws of harmony for himself. His Traité de l'harmonie (1722) laid the foundation for a rational science of music, and his concept of the invertibility of triads--a stroke of genius by any measure--had great consequences for the teaching of theory. At first not received well in France, Rameau's ideas were introduced into Germany by Marpurg. Rameau was a first-rate composer as well as theorist, composing mainly operas but also sacred, harpsichord, and chamber works. In the "War of the Buffoons" of 1752 Rameau was a defender of the French opera style of Lully and Destouches as opposed to the opera buffa of Pergolesi. In later years, however, Rameau said that if he had it to do over again he would have gone to Italy and studied with Pergolesi.
作者: arcadia    時間: 2006-8-23 17:17

呢度有好多高人...勁....謝謝資料
作者: uknowzip    時間: 2006-8-24 00:30

Louis 兄... May I ask... What instrument(s) do you play?... and... Are you a professional?
作者: my709394.    時間: 2006-8-24 00:37

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原帖由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-23 03:51 PM 發表

最好讀下音樂史, 睇多 D 關於演奏家0既書 (不過唔好盡信, 要靠自己分析)。
貝多芬的十四粒咖啡豆,係嗎?
其實不如Louis兄推薦些值得推薦的古典樂書俾各位吧...街外古典樂的書可謂多不勝數,就算有咁的財力買都未必有時間睇,更何況要聽?只論莫扎持,不論各個版本,每日聽一首都成年吧...

其實我覺得Louis兄貼的「入門」碟對新手來講...要聽入耳而進入古典樂界似乎仍有一定難度(聽懂而冇嚇跑的大概有一定的古典樂根基了.),不論要聽還是要買上手...為什麼唔推薦一些「熟口熟面」而容易入手的俾新手聽呢?例如Rossini-William Tell Overtune,老一輩的會知係賽馬音樂,後生一輩的經典節目運財至叻星內陳百祥唱的'我至叻'亦算一首經典...
不過嘛...畢竟這裡你才係Pro...如有得罪,多多包涵...

[ 本帖最後由 my709394. 於 2006-8-24 12:49 AM 編輯 ]
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-24 02:24

引用:
原帖由 my709394. 於 2006-8-24 12:37 AM 發表
貝多芬的十四粒咖啡豆,係嗎?
其實不如Louis兄推薦些值得推薦的古典樂書俾各位吧...街外古典樂的書可謂多不勝數,就算有咁的財力買都未必有時間睇,更何況要聽?只論莫扎持,不論各個版本,每日聽一首都成年吧...

其實我覺得Louis兄貼的「入門」碟對新手來講...要聽入耳而進入古典樂界似乎仍有一定難度(聽懂而冇嚇跑的大概有一定的古典樂根基了.),不論要聽還是要買上手...為什麼唔推薦一些「熟口熟面」而容易入手的俾新手聽呢?例如Rossini-William Tell Overtune,老一輩的會知係賽馬音樂,後生一輩的經典節目運財至叻星內陳百祥唱的'我至叻'亦算一首經典...
不過嘛...畢竟這裡你才係Pro...如有得罪,多多包涵...
作為入門工具書, 呢兩本唔錯:


1. 《西洋音樂史與風格》     劉志明著          大陸書店

2. 《貝多芬》  上、中、下冊    邵義強編譯   天同出版社


灣仔天地圖書亦有好多關於演奏家�H書, 不妨睇睇。不過睇書始終只係紙上談兵, 用耳去聽, 用心去感受至係最實際。

我介紹�H入門 CD 並唔係乜嘢特別艱澀�H曲目, 以 Baroque 同莫扎特為主, 貝多芬只有兩首, 第一隻就係韋華第《四季》, 手機鈴聲都有得 download,另外係巴哈《布蘭登堡協奏曲》、《十二平均律曲集》、韓德爾《水上音樂》、《皇家煙花音樂》、莫扎特第 13 號弦樂小夜曲 K525、第 41 交響曲, 貝多芬第四、五 號 鋼琴協奏曲...... 全部都係旋律優美, 雅俗共賞之作, 只係我揀�H全部都係錄音史上�H至 Top 版本, 咁可以令初學者欣賞到最上乘�H演繹, 行少好多冤枉路, 交少好多學費。
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-24 02:34

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原帖由 uknowzip 於 2006-8-24 12:30 AM 發表
Louis 兄... May I ask... What instrument(s) do you play?... and... Are you a professional?
我唔識玩樂器, 亦唔係乜嘢 professional, 我聽音樂純為興趣, 不過我就真係好發燒, 買咗超過一千隻古典 CD。
作者: 珠公主    時間: 2006-8-24 13:54

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原帖由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-22 21:46 發表


Willem Mengelberg 1939 年�H St. Matthew's Passion (J.S. Bach) 聖枝主日 Live Recording 正係 Baroque Choral Music �H絕響!!!

http://images.amazon.com/images/ ... SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V1 ...
多謝louis兄推介!! 之前我未真正欣賞過 choral music, 而家得louis兄誠意推介, 我會試下聽呢!!

係baroque period裡面, 個人比較鐘意 harpsichord concertos
作者: brasco    時間: 2006-8-24 18:44     標題: 回復 #56 珠公主 的帖子

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作者: 珠公主    時間: 2006-8-24 18:46

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原帖由 brasco 於 2006-8-24 18:44 發表
真係高手如雲....

珠餅主!!....自己執生喇!!........
所以我咪乖乖坐定定係到跟各位高手學o野lor!!......
作者: 中國人    時間: 2006-8-25 19:04

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原帖由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-23 08:02 AM 發表
以下係幾款初聽古典必備 CD, 全部由錄音史上頂級大師演繹, 有 D 香港買唔到, 要上網訂:

1. Bach Guild - Vivaldi: The Four Seasons, etc / Tomasow, et al
http://art.towerrecords.com/coverart.asp?S=120 ...
唔該晒！
好詳盡既資料！
雖然我都唔係好睇得明

其實你係幾時開始接觸古典音樂？
點解會咁鍾意既？
因為你真係好熟喎！

[ 本帖最後由 中國人 於 2006-8-25 11:09 AM 編輯 ]
作者: 中國人    時間: 2006-8-25 19:10

引用:
原帖由 my709394. 於 2006-8-23 04:37 PM 發表

貝多芬的十四粒咖啡豆,係嗎?
其實不如Louis兄推薦些值得推薦的古典樂書俾各位吧...街外古典樂的書可謂多不勝數,就算有咁的財力買都未必有時間睇,更何況要聽?只論莫扎持,不論各個版本,每日聽一首都成年吧...
...
請問咩係貝多芬的十四粒咖啡豆呢？
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-25 21:13

引用:
原帖由 中國人 於 2006-8-25 07:04 PM 發表

唔該晒！
好詳盡既資料！
雖然我都唔係好睇得明

其實你係幾時開始接觸古典音樂？
點解會咁鍾意既？
因為你真係好熟喎！
唔使客氣!!!

我真正開始聽古典係 1989 年, 冇幾耐之後識到位學作曲�H朋友, 佢教識我好多嘢。



點解會咁鍾意? 正囉!!! 呢 D 先至係音樂藝術�H最高境界。
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-25 21:17

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原帖由 中國人 於 2006-8-25 07:10 PM 發表

請問咩係貝多芬的十四粒咖啡豆呢？
我都未聽過!!!
作者: my709394    時間: 2006-8-25 23:47

引用:
原帖由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-24 02:24 發表
灣仔天地圖書亦有好多關於演奏家�H書, 不妨睇睇。不過睇書始終只係紙上談兵, 用耳去聽, 用心去感受至係最實際。

我介紹�H入門 CD 並唔係乜嘢特別艱澀�H曲目, 以 Baroque 同莫扎特為主, 貝多芬只有兩首, 第一隻就係韋華第《四季》, 手機鈴聲都有得 download,另外係巴哈《布蘭登堡協奏曲》、《十二平均律曲集》、韓德爾《水上音樂》、《皇家煙花音樂》、莫扎特第 13 號弦樂小夜曲 K525、第 41 交響曲, 貝多芬第四、五 號 鋼琴協奏曲...... 全部都係旋律優美, 雅俗共賞之作, 只係我揀�H全部都係錄音史上�H至 Top 版本, 咁可以令初學者欣賞到最上乘�H演繹, 行少好多冤枉路, 交少好多學費。
韓德爾《皇家煙花音樂》應該唔算「熟口面」吧...韋華第《四季》我想新手較熟的係春季吧...莫扎特第40交響曲亦應該會被大眾認識吧...
不過算了,這大概唔係重要的...我想重要係~至Top版本?音樂似乎唔應該劃分「Top」唔「Top」吧?或者古典樂只係我音樂系的第三興趣,唔係太聽唔進...我想音樂唔能夠由個人將自己的評估強制輸入在別人(尤其係新手.)處,咁可能會導致一種「主觀」而錯失見識其他音樂的動力吧...很抱歉...

我想Louis兄如果想其他新手行少些冤枉路,交少些學費的話,不如講講有什麼唱片鋪值得推薦(老闆或店員對古典樂的認知虛和態度,唱片鋪自身大唔大,值錢平唔平和肯唔肯進貨,地址是否適中等.),就以香港計中環寶韻就有推薦的價值吧...
作者: my709394    時間: 2006-8-25 23:59

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原帖由 中國人 於 2006-8-25 19:10 發表

請問咩係貝多芬的十四粒咖啡豆呢？
傳聞貝多芬飲咖啡時用十四粒咖啡豆,唔可以多唔可以少...如別人沖而他發現唔對,整杯咖啡會潑在別人處...
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-26 00:56

引用:
原帖由 my709394 於 2006-8-25 11:47 PM 發表
韓德爾《皇家煙花音樂》應該唔算「熟口面」吧...韋華第《四季》我想新手較熟的係春季吧...莫扎特第40交響曲亦應該會被大眾認識吧...
不過算了,這大概唔係重要的...我想重要係~至Top版本?音樂似乎唔應該劃分「Top」唔「Top」吧?或者古典樂只係我音樂系的第三興趣,唔係太聽唔進...我想音樂唔能夠由個人將自己的評估強制輸入在別人(尤其係新手.)處,咁可能會導致一種「主觀」而錯失見識其他音樂的動力吧...很抱歉...

我想Louis兄如果想其他新手行少些冤枉路,交少些學費的話,不如講講有什麼唱片鋪值得推薦(老闆或店員對古典樂的認知虛和態度,唱片鋪自身大唔大,值錢平唔平和肯唔肯進貨,地址是否適中等.),就以香港計中環寶韻就有推薦的價值吧...
音樂同音樂家當然有分「Top」唔「Top」啦!!! 一首音樂 Top 唔 Top 就要視首作品有冇意境, 等如梵谷�H畫同尖沙咀行貨畫�H分別, 版本 Top 唔 Top 就視乎演奏家能否演繹曲中精髓, 呢樣就好視乎演奏家對曲目�H理解。最簡單例子, 就係 Alfred Cortot �H蕭邦同李雲迪�H蕭邦, 前者學養甚高, 演奏著重曲中內涵, 有一種古茂樸拙, 莊嚴肅穆�H氣韻; 後者只著重機械式技巧操練, 彈到飛沙走石, 但係就胸無點墨, 聽嚟聽去只係聽到滿天豆豉, 毫無意境, 仲要古怪表情多多, 典肚痛咁, 呢種演繹就不免流於俗品!!!

買 CD 旨意老闆或者 Sales 介紹就蛇都死, 佢地唔係音樂家, 介紹 CD 俾你只有一個目的, 就係 $$$ !!! 唱片舖好唔好最緊要係睇佢選擇多唔多, 價錢合唔合理, 我比較多去上環永吉街波斯富、信昌 (呢間最多古董錄音, 啱我咀型!!! )、又一城 Hong Kong Records 同 HMV (呢間通常只聽唔買, 因為太掠水)。

你想聽邊 D 曲目不如話我知, 等我介紹 D 正版本俾你好過。

[ 本帖最後由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-26 01:03 AM 編輯 ]
作者: my709394    時間: 2006-8-26 01:26

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原帖由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-26 00:56 發表

買 CD 旨意老闆或者 Sales 介紹就蛇都死, 佢地唔係音樂家, 介紹 CD 俾你只有一個目的, 就係 $$$ !!! 唱片舖好唔好最緊要係睇佢選擇多唔多, 價錢合唔合理, 我比較多去上環永吉街波斯富、信昌 (呢間最多古董錄音, 啱我咀型!!! )、又一城 Hong Kong Records 同 HMV (呢間通常只聽唔買, 因為太掠水)。

你想聽邊 D 曲目不如話我知, 等我介紹 D 正版本俾你好過。
對李雲迪倒冇Louis兄咁大反應,頂多係恰眼訓吧...

咁當然為錢吧...Louis兄試試去上環永吉街波斯富只揀唔買?老闆娘肯定會「親切地詢問」閣下父母的「教子之道」呢...
信昌係我買第一興趣的地方呢...又一城Hong Kong Records確實我的古典樂系朋友都講她掂呢...HMV...現在簡直侮辱了「無限」兩個字,越開越細...

你想聽邊 D 曲目不如話我知, 等我介紹 D 正版本俾你好過。<<<似乎有所誤會,我唔係存心搵你麻,如你真係咁想我必需講~對唔住啊!!!

嗯~好奇一問你有幾隻碟?比例幾多?
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-26 01:42

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原帖由 my709394 於 2006-8-26 01:26 AM 發表
好奇一問你有幾隻碟?比例幾多?
大約一千隻左右, 以古董錄音為主, 樣樣曲目都有 D 咁啦, 比例幾多我就冇計過。
作者: uknowzip    時間: 2006-8-26 01:54

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原帖由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-26 12:56 AM 發表



前者學養甚高, 演奏著重曲中內涵, 有一種古茂樸拙, 莊嚴肅穆�H氣韻; 後者只著重機械式技巧操練, 彈到飛沙走石, 但係就胸無點墨, 聽嚟聽去只係聽到滿天豆豉, 毫無意境, 仲要古怪表情多多, 典肚痛咁, 呢種演繹就不免流於俗品!!!
好多人都係咁彈... 大勢所趨... 講真...  後者花太多氣力在無意義東西上...
作者: 中國人    時間: 2006-8-26 12:11

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原帖由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-25 01:13 PM 發表


唔使客氣!!!

我真正開始聽古典係 1989 年, 冇幾耐之後識到位學作曲�H朋友, 佢教識我好多嘢。



點解會咁鍾意? 正囉!!! 呢 D 先至係音樂藝術�H最高境界。
咁個陣你係咪仲讀緊書呢？
你係點樣開始接觸古典音樂？
作者: 中國人    時間: 2006-8-26 12:13

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原帖由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-25 04:56 PM 發表



音樂同音樂家當然有分「Top」唔「Top」啦!!! 一首音樂 Top 唔 Top 就要視首作品有冇意境, 等如梵谷�H畫同尖沙咀行貨畫�H分別, 版本 Top 唔 Top 就視乎演奏家能否演繹曲中精髓, 呢樣就好視乎演奏家對曲目�H理 ...
其實點先聽到隻曲既意境？
如果我聽 Alfred Cortot 同李雲迪我真係未必聽得出有咩分別
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-26 12:26

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原帖由 中國人 於 2006-8-26 12:13 PM 發表

其實點先聽到隻曲既意境？
如果我聽 Alfred Cortot 同李雲迪我真係未必聽得出有咩分別
你將兩個版本「隻揪」,自然聽得出有咩分別。
作者: my709394    時間: 2006-8-27 01:30

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原帖由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-26 01:42 發表
大約一千隻左右, 以古董錄音為主, 樣樣曲目都有 D 咁啦, 比例幾多我就冇計過。
嘩...古董錄音大多係日本版喎,咁即係Louis兄都幾有米呢...
有冇非古典樂類型的CD?

有冇在無意間買了重覆?深水涉黃金近來有唔少Classical的DVD一百元四隻,有去掃嗎?


嗯~總係唔記得請教~有'日本四季'/'空氣交響樂'/'人類交響樂'的資料嗎?
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-27 02:11

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原帖由 my709394 於 2006-8-27 01:30 AM 發表

嘩...古董錄音大多係日本版喎,咁即係Louis兄都幾有米呢...
有冇非古典樂類型的CD?

有冇在無意間買了重覆?深水涉黃金近來有唔少Classical的DVD一百元四隻,有去掃嗎?


嗯~總係唔記得請教~有'日本四季'/ ...
米就冇喇, 十幾年嚟買下買下就買咗咁多, 計埋 pop, country, blues, 少少 Jazz...... 千二隻左右, 你都咪話唔傷!!!

偶然都會有買重覆, 但係唔多, 通常係同一錄音, 但係唔通 label, 因為第二個 label 翻得靚聲 D, 所以買多隻。

大陸版 EMI Classical DVD, 深圳十蚊搞掂。

[ 本帖最後由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-27 02:12 AM 編輯 ]
作者: my709394    時間: 2006-8-27 18:23

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原帖由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-27 02:11 發表


米就冇喇, 十幾年嚟買下買下就買咗咁多, 計埋 pop, country, blues, 少少 Jazz...... 千二隻左右, 你都咪話唔傷!!!

偶然都會有買重覆, 但係唔多, 通常係同一錄音, 但係唔通 label, 因為第二個 label 翻得靚聲 D, 所以買多隻。

大陸版 EMI Classical DVD, 深圳十蚊搞掂。
為什麼唔考慮二手?pop,country,blues...二三線的樂者都曾經跌到唔駛廿皮一隻吧...

唏~傷唔傷睇你的心係唔係喜歡這類音樂吧...純以碟的數量計我仲多過你,搜集日子亦比你短,但我的碟內只有三隻係令我覺得後悔的...就算之前我提及認識的古典樂迷亦多過你,但亦未曾聽過他有悔意呢...

咁Louis兄點處置多出來的碟?送人?賣掉?

唔止EMI啊...不過深圳買的「可信」嗎?睇唔到佢會唔會認和俾你換另一隻?如果真係要在深圳買,我寧願買飛邊版了,雖然道德上有問題,但出產質數有極大保證呢...
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-27 19:13

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原帖由 my709394 於 2006-8-27 06:23 PM 發表

唏~傷唔傷睇你的心係唔係喜歡這類音樂吧...純以碟的數量計我仲多過你,搜集日子亦比你短,但我的碟內只有三隻係令我覺得後悔的...就算之前我提及認識的古典樂迷亦多過你,但亦未曾聽過他有悔意呢...

咁Louis兄點處置多出來的碟?送人?賣掉?

唔止EMI啊...不過深圳買的「可信」嗎?睇唔到佢會唔會認和俾你換另一隻?如果真係要在深圳買,我寧願買飛邊版了,雖然道德上有問題,但出產質數有極大保證呢...
買得就梗係諗住收藏, 唔會賣, 有 D 碟賣咗就買唔返, 有平靚正二手就梗係好啦, 不過要有人放出嚟至得, 但係信和家陣開始興炒舊版 CD, 有好多仲貴過新碟, 貴兩三倍都有, 最誇張見過過千!!!
作者: my709394    時間: 2006-8-27 20:09

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原帖由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-27 19:13 發表


買得就梗係諗住收藏, 唔會賣, 有 D 碟賣咗就買唔返, 有平靚正二手就梗係好啦, 不過要有人放出嚟至得, 但係信和家陣開始興炒舊版 CD, 有好多仲貴過新碟, 貴兩三倍都有, 最誇張見過過千!!!
二手碟...該說舊碟都係睇彩數吧...我一星期行五日信和,這隻碟在「第六日」俾人(那人在某論壇的網聚相遇了講起,所以知道.)買了,你話?


信和炒CD並非一朝一夕了,特區的Chris可以講係炒碟的「發揚光大」者,不過Classial一向價錢不算大上大落...不過早兩年中文炒碟價跌到最低,到現在算係谷底回升,但係大公司又大量復刻,攪到二手碟界依然冇啖好食,所以就退一步炒古典樂了...不過過千以中文碟來講「小數目」了,之前在'陳秋霞'那主題處我都提及~林志美的粉絲個人財力平均來說肯定比陳秋霞高吧?早四五年前的一次林志美的第一次生日會上,她提及自己並沒有自己的一套個人CD,其中一個Fans在隨即在二手界豪拎近一萬出來買回林志美的一套個人CD(題外問~陳秋霞Fans有誰會咁做,唔係話出唔出到近一萬,係有冇其豪邁?)...附帶一提~林志美的個人大碟在二手界已經唔算最貴,甚至講三甲不入了...
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-27 21:09

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原帖由 my709394 於 2006-8-27 08:09 PM 發表

信和炒CD並非一朝一夕了,特區的Chris可以講係炒碟的「發揚光大」者,不過Classial一向價錢不算大上大落...不過早兩年中文炒碟價跌到最低,到現在算係谷底回升,但係大公司又大量復刻,攪到二手碟界依然冇啖好食,所以就退一步炒古典樂了...不過過千以中文碟來講「小數目」了,之前在'陳秋霞'那主題處我都提及~林志美的粉絲個人財力平均來說肯定比陳秋霞高吧?早四五年前的一次林志美的第一次生日會上,她提及自己並沒有自己的一套個人CD,其中一個Fans在隨即在二手界豪拎近一萬出來買回林志美的一套個人CD(題外問~陳秋霞Fans有誰會咁做,唔係話出唔出到近一萬,係有冇其豪邁?)...附帶一提~林志美的個人大碟在二手界已經唔算最貴,甚至講三甲不入了...
2004 年陳秋霞 喺君悅酒店�H Fans Gathering, 有位 32 歲, 5 歲開始聽 Chelsia �H台灣男 Fans 將 Chelsia 所有黑膠碟全部翻晒做 CD 送俾偶像, 當時佢一見到秋霞, 情緒失控, 喊到飛起!!!

好似離咗題, 都係講返 Classical 把啦!!!

[ 本帖最後由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-27 09:14 PM 編輯 ]
作者: my709394    時間: 2006-8-27 21:26

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原帖由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-27 21:09 發表


2004 年陳秋霞 喺君悅酒店�H Fans Gathering, 有位 32 歲, 5 歲開始聽 Chelsia �H台灣男 Fans 將 Chelsia 所有黑膠碟全部翻晒做 CD 送俾偶像, 當時佢一見到秋霞, 情緒失控, 喊到飛起!!!

好似離咗題, 都 ...
我講的係正版CD,唔係翻晒做CD的版本...附帶一提~地點係'馬可孛羅'酒店(高級過君悅酒店呢...哈!)...不過我都相信台灣的Fans對偶像的熱情亦確實唔會弱,有一次在方季惟的網頁我打段簡譜出來都賺到一千台幣呢...

也對...兜回來~Louis兄最喜歡那一首古典樂?我最喜歡'行星組曲'...
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-27 21:55

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原帖由 my709394 於 2006-8-27 09:26 PM 發表
Louis兄最喜歡那一首古典樂?
講真, 我都唔知。

不過我比較喜歡 Beethoven , Mahler, Brahms, Mozart, 同 baroque music, 仲有黑人靈歌 (Negro Spiritual)。
作者: my709394    時間: 2006-8-27 22:07

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原帖由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-27 21:55 發表

講真, 我都唔知。

不過我比較喜歡 Beethoven , Mahler, Brahms, Mozart, 同 baroque music, 仲有黑人靈歌 (Negro Spiritual)。
咁你第一首刻意搵的非「熟口熟面」的音樂是誰?
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-27 22:16

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原帖由 my709394 於 2006-8-27 10:07 PM 發表

咁你第一首刻意搵的非「熟口熟面」的音樂是誰?
Handel "Messiah"
作者: my709394    時間: 2006-8-27 22:46

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原帖由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-27 22:16 發表


Handel "Messiah"
Handel "Messian"?
彌賽亞?序曲係E小調,歌詞係選於聖經的'彌賽亞書'/'詩篇'和傳統的四大福音,係嗎?
如係...咁Louis兄當時係唔係一日聽哂55節?好有耐性呢...
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-27 23:35

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原帖由 my709394 於 2006-8-27 10:46 PM 發表

Handel "Messian"?
彌賽亞?序曲係E小調,歌詞係選於聖經的'彌賽亞書'/'詩篇'和傳統的四大福音,係嗎?
如係...咁Louis兄當時係唔係一日聽哂55節?好有耐性呢...
係呀, 嗰時係暑假, 所以有時間。
作者: my709394    時間: 2006-8-27 23:55

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原帖由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-27 23:35 發表


係呀, 嗰時係暑假, 所以有時間。
咁什麼驅使你聽這歌?老師介紹?
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-28 00:21

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原帖由 my709394 於 2006-8-27 11:55 PM 發表

咁什麼驅使你聽這歌?老師介紹?
其實都係嘗試心態, 信仰亦係原因之一, 當時我已經決志入天主教。不過始終係第一次, 所以版本揀得唔好, 係 Solti 指 Chicago Sym Orch. 呢類音樂唔啱佢咀型。
作者: my709394    時間: 2006-8-28 23:58

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原帖由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-28 00:21 發表


其實都係嘗試心態, 信仰亦係原因之一, 當時我已經決志入天主教。不過始終係第一次, 所以版本揀得唔好, 係 Solti 指 Chicago Sym Orch. 呢類音樂唔啱佢咀型。
宗教...其實大部份古典樂家都要作些教會曲才紅,似乎太「黑暗」了...或許我唔太慣...

言歸正傳~初次嘗試亦未等於一定喜歡這曲啊,是否有其他因素令Louis兄對此曲情有獨鍾?抱歉...我份人太打爛砂盆問到篤...
以我資料睇...最佳版本係倫敦愛樂樂團版...Donath,Reynolds,Burrows,Mclntyre演唱,大黃花出版,CD編號453 028-2...係嗎?
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-29 00:16

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原帖由 my709394 於 2006-8-28 11:58 PM 發表

宗教...其實大部份古典樂家都要作些教會曲才紅,似乎太「黑暗」了...或許我唔太慣...

言歸正傳~初次嘗試亦未等於一定喜歡這曲啊,是否有其他因素令Louis兄對此曲情有獨鍾?抱歉...我份人太打爛砂盆問到篤...: ...
其實都唔算係情有獨鍾, 好多曲目我都鍾意。最佳版本應該係 Sir Thomas Beecham 二十年代錄音 (全曲), 同 Leopold Stokowski 六十年代錄音 (選段)。
作者: billybob11    時間: 2006-8-29 07:47

You guys are very knowledgable!!!  I prefer Opera because I sing them!!!
作者: 中國人    時間: 2006-8-29 18:19

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原帖由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-28 04:16 PM 發表


其實都唔算係情有獨鍾, 好多曲目我都鍾意。最佳版本應該係 Sir Thomas Beecham 二十年代錄音 (全曲), 同 Leopold Stokowski 六十年代錄音 (選段)。
其實你係幾時開始接觸/鍾意古典音樂架？
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-29 20:55

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原帖由 中國人 於 2006-8-29 06:19 PM 發表

其實你係幾時開始接觸/鍾意古典音樂架？
1989 年暑假。
作者: Dave1968    時間: 2006-8-29 22:53

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原帖由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-27 01:55 PM 發表

講真, 我都唔知。

不過我比較喜歡 Beethoven , Mahler, Brahms, Mozart, 同 baroque music, 仲有黑人靈歌 (Negro Spiritual)。
Brother Louis...about Baroque Music, any composers can introduce to us? (beside Bach, Handel, Vivide)
作者: my709394    時間: 2006-8-29 23:53

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原帖由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-29 00:16 發表


其實都唔算係情有獨鍾, 好多曲目我都鍾意。最佳版本應該係 Sir Thomas Beecham 二十年代錄音 (全曲), 同 Leopold Stokowski 六十年代錄音 (選段)。
不過我想Louis兄會唔會係因為44段的Hallelujah才來聽呢?

嗯~最近有去聽音樂會嗎?
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-30 00:14

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原帖由 Dave1968 於 2006-8-29 10:53 PM 發表


Brother Louis...about Baroque Music, any composers can introduce to us? (beside Bach, Handel, Vivide)
Jean-Philippe Rameau 1683-1764

Avid reader of Zarlino, Kircher, and Descartes, as a youth Rameau set out to discover the laws of harmony for himself. His Traité de l'harmonie (1722) laid the foundation for a rational science of music, and his concept of the invertibility of triads--a stroke of genius by any measure--had great consequences for the teaching of theory. At first not received well in France, Rameau's ideas were introduced into Germany by Marpurg. Rameau was a first-rate composer as well as theorist, composing mainly operas but also sacred, harpsichord, and chamber works. In the "War of the Buffoons" of 1752 Rameau was a defender of the French opera style of Lully and Destouches as opposed to the opera buffa of Pergolesi. In later years, however, Rameau said that if he had it to do over again he would have gone to Italy and studied with Pergolesi.

Rameau: Ballet Suites, Dardanus / Collegium Aureum    



Composer: Jean-Philippe Rameau
Orchestras/Ensemble: Collegium Aureum

William Boyce (1711-1779)

http://www.rslade.co.uk/boyce/

William Boyce Eight Symphonies



Composer: William Boyce
Conductor: Antonio Janigro
Performer: Herbert Tachezi
Label: Vanguard Classics - #46

Arcangelo Corelli (1653-1713)

http://www.baroquemusic.org/bqxcorelli.html
作者: 中國人    時間: 2006-8-30 18:40

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原帖由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-29 12:55 PM 發表



1989 年暑假。
個陣你係讀緊幾年級架？

點樣開始接觸呢？
作者: Dave1968    時間: 2006-8-30 18:42

wow!!! Thanks again!
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-8-30 19:35

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原帖由 中國人 於 2006-8-30 06:40 PM 發表

個陣你係讀緊幾年級架？

點樣開始接觸呢？
考完 AL。

之前我都係聽 pop, 我係超級 Sam Hui Fans, Form 6 因為要預備考 listening, 所以開始聽舊英文歌 (藉口嚟啫! ), 由 Elvis, Chuck Berry, Carpenters 開始,當時好鍾意五、六十年代�H Rock and Roll, 跟住知道原來 Rock music 起源黑人音樂, 就開始「尋根」聽二、三十年代 blues, 仲有阿媽好仲意聽�H Nat King Cole 同 Patti Page, 越聽得呢 D 老餅嘢多要求就越高, 最後就決定嘗試聽 Classical。

[ 本帖最後由 LouisLee 於 2006-8-30 07:40 PM 編輯 ]
作者: psychjoe    時間: 2006-9-14 02:12

哪里有啊，我晕，看不到也
作者: LouisLee    時間: 2006-9-14 15:55

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原帖由 psychjoe 於 2006-9-14 02:12 AM 發表
哪里有啊，我晕，看不到也
你想睇乜???
作者: 白貓兒    時間: 2006-9-19 16:40

請問同Nicholas Harnocourt 一樣咁出名的那個英國古樂指揮叫咩名? (唔係Sir John Gardiner)
太耐無聽,唔記得了
因講起Messiah, 我特別喜歡佢指的
其中voices唱'For unto a child is born' 好正
(唱片係Decca古樂版)

[ 本帖最後由 白貓兒 於 2006-9-19 08:58 AM 編輯 ]
作者: 白貓兒    時間: 2006-9-19 16:43

'日出時讓悲傷終結' 中果首都好似係Rameau寫喎



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