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作者: kenzo1111 時間: 2006-8-19 15:19 標題: Wine lovers! pls come in!!

let's build another thread here!!
any summer wine recently?
I like NZ Sau. Blanc and German Riesling.

作者: Super-K 時間: 2006-8-20 12:01

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原帖由 kenzo1111 於 2006-8-19 16:49 發表
let's build another thread here!!
any summer wine recently?
I like NZ Sau. Blanc and German Riesling.

請問....."97靚次伯".......正唔正

作者: kenzo1111 時間: 2006-8-21 02:03

Lynch Bage 97 should be very open and direct now. Since 97 is not a very successful vantigae, don't expect it can compare with 00 even 95 or 96, however, the price is very reasonable and ready to drink.
I personally will suggest 97 or 99 for immediate drinking.

enjoy it.

作者: Evo8 時間: 2006-8-21 10:06

Halo !

作者: 利記 時間: 2006-8-21 12:01

我鐘意飲酒,但唔識分好定唔好

作者: kenzo1111 時間: 2006-8-22 00:21

WEllcome!!!
big brother EVO8!!!
long time no see.............

Mr Lee Ki, just enjoy the wine.. no need to know too much and it wastes lots lots lots of money.....but i love to..hehe

作者: Payne 時間: 2006-8-22 11:10

好野! 有高人指路，入嚟學下野先~~~
請問一百蚊左右有無好介紹？

作者: Super-K 時間: 2006-8-22 11:30

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原帖由 kenzo1111 於 2006-8-21 03:33 發表
Lynch Bage 97 should be very open and direct now. Since 97 is not a very successful vantigae, don't expect it can compare with 00 even 95 or 96, however, the price is very reasonable and ready to ...

Thank you Brother........

作者: kenzo1111 時間: 2006-8-23 00:27

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原帖由 Payne 於 2006-8-22 11:10 AM 發表
好野! 有高人指路，入嚟學下野先~~~
請問一百蚊左右有無好介紹？

ha, i am not tall at all and only have 178cm tall...

for the wine around $100....

my choice is all in Park'n shop
Montgras, Los Vasco when on sale...from 138 to $88
Also, the from wine called "Alguilhe" its second wine sale from 149 to $99. only available in superstore. MUST BUY!!!
Also, the Chilean wine called Sunrise, its Cab Sau is the recommendation for 250 wine available in Asia, the best one in the low price category.
Read this Book and available in bookstore even library.
In Watson's wine cellar, i think Aust, Paringa is one of the best buy for daily drinking. It is not easy to find good French wine under $100 ga la. Southern France such as Cote de Rhone may have some good stuff.
try an error la.

作者: Payne 時間: 2006-8-24 11:30

Thank you very much~~~~

作者: VineCellar 時間: 2006-8-24 12:02 標題: Greek Wine

Well.. Declare the conflict of Interest first .... I am the importer of Greek Wines

But honest speaking. I personally love Greek Wines more becuase of Aroma, lasting, smooth & PRICE ...of course

May be I wouldnt want to spend more on the French Wine which I think the price is not worth with the quality. Besides
Greek, I would suggest Italy, Portugal & Australia which are quite good with reasonable price. (depands on which brand)

I realise that most of the people only interested in French wine of course with certain reasons

normally I wouldnt spend more than $200/bottle unless in certain events.

Can tell me by average how many bottle will spend per week ?

作者: kenzo1111 時間: 2006-8-27 02:26

No one said we only focus on French wine...
just a place to share experience..better no promotion la.
I have many wine sales friends

作者: kenzo1111 時間: 2006-8-27 02:27

they are watching it but never sell things here.
We all have our ideas to buy wine. I like Italian and Spanish wine also and some Washington, NZ and Aust focus on Western AUst

作者: VineCellar 時間: 2006-8-27 14:22

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原帖由 kenzo1111 於 2006-8-27 02:27 AM 發表
they are watching it but never sell things here.
We all have our ideas to buy wine. I like Italian and Spanish wine also and some Washington, NZ and Aust focus on Western AUst

Sorry to create your misunderstanding... thats why I declare the conflict of interest first.

Initially I just express my personal wine favourite instead of promoting anything .

in fact my business nature major for east asia market instead of hong kong.

作者: kenzo1111 時間: 2006-8-27 23:50

ok, thx for your honesty, just too new too us, GREEK, theoretically can have good wine if the technology can match such a good climate. Hot, dry and sunny. just like Italy

作者: 資深球迷2世 時間: 2006-8-29 12:27

地中海氣候, 應該會幾接近 Fitou 區嘅紅酒口味

作者: gtc 時間: 2006-9-20 10:23

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作者: alby 時間: 2006-9-20 22:27

Any Aussie Recommendations?

作者: Thomson 時間: 2006-9-20 22:40

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原帖由 gtc 於 2006-9-20 02:23 AM 發表

FOR ME I LIKE CONSUR FM CHILE C.B. WHICH IS GOOD ENOUGH
AND PARKN SHOP IS JUST SELLING 59-79/BOTTLE ONLY.

My choice in ParkNShop is Jacob.

作者: kenzo1111 時間: 2006-9-23 02:05

Jacob's Creek's sparkling is good.
Others, u can have many other choices.
Such as Durius from Spain. Excellent and on sale $69 only. Worth as the Spanish wine of $150..

作者: FeiJai 時間: 2006-9-23 19:48

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原帖由 alby 於 2006-9-20 02:27 PM 發表
Any Aussie Recommendations?

West Cape Howe 2005 Unwooded Chardonnay

fairly reasonable price, about 18 something Aussie dollar.

作者: 炮艇工兵 時間: 2006-10-21 08:26

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作者: tailawyau 時間: 2006-11-10 11:13

hi all

didn't know a new thread here
will come and check regularly

how about parklane and deju, where are they???

作者: kenzo1111 時間: 2006-11-12 01:44

don't know ar, deju,easy to find him in investment thread.
me, silent recently,
without u, very dry ar, ar Tai.

作者: alphagirl@ 時間: 2006-11-12 21:59 標題: 回復 #24 kenzo1111 的帖子

Hi Kenzo, I like white wine.
What do you suggest for price lower than $500?
I prefer something from Chile or Australia.

作者: kenzo1111 時間: 2006-11-12 23:48

Lower than $500?
Chile or Australia  white wine can be very pleasant even if u pay only under 200.
For gal, i like German resling kabinet or Spatlase. Around 200 to 300, very good and pleasant. Very charming.

Also, any Gurwerstraminer can be good too. Best from south france such as
ALsace.

I also like New Zealand Sauvignon blanc. Clouldy Bay or Osyter Bay are good choice.

For Austrilian wine, choose Western Austrilian, Voctoria, Claire Valley wine.

I personally have less idea about Chilean white. sorry

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2006-11-13 23:11

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原帖由 alphagirl@ 於 2006-11-12 01:59 PM 發表
Hi Kenzo, I like white wine.
What do you suggest for price lower than $500?
I prefer something from Chile or Australia.

If you pay just a little more, you should try the Leeuwin Estate Arts Series Chardonnay.

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2006-11-13 23:14

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原帖由 kenzo1111 於 2006-11-11 05:44 PM 發表
don't know ar, deju,easy to find him in investment thread.
me, silent recently,
without u, very dry ar, ar Tai.

want to check on Amour de Deutz Champagne, Millesime 1999 Blanc de Blancs. Any good?

作者: alphagirl@ 時間: 2006-11-13 23:49

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原帖由 kenzo1111 於 2006-11-12 03:48 PM 發表
Lower than $500?
Chile or Australia white wine can be very pleasant even if u pay only under 200.
For gal, i like German resling kabinet or Spatlase. Around 200 to 300, very good and pleasant. ...

Thanks for your suggestion. I am new to wine, so I feel the names are difficult to remember...

I know year is important, regarding the Australian wine, which year should be better in the price range?
BTW, is Park'n a good place for me to buy the wine?
Sorry for so many questions at the same time..

作者: alphagirl@ 時間: 2006-11-13 23:56

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2006-11-13 03:11 PM 發表

If you pay just a little more, you should try the Leeuwin Estate Arts Series Chardonnay.

Do i need to choose a specific year?
I know Chardonnay is common for making wine. How does it taste like?

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2006-11-14 00:37

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原帖由 alphagirl@ 於 2006-11-13 03:56 PM 發表

Do i need to choose a specific year?
I know Chardonnay is common for making wine. How does it taste like?

check out this link.

http://leeuwinestate.com.au/index.php?page=84

I only tried 1998 and 2002. The better vintages are listed at the bottom of the link.

作者: kenzo1111 時間: 2006-11-14 15:10

Leeuwin Art series Chadonnay probably the best white in Aussie although i have no chance to try it. The price is not expensive and money for value

by the way, wellcome our first gal in this thread and that is good to have gathering wine dinner later.
I will try my best to arrange.

作者: alphagirl@ 時間: 2006-11-15 00:32

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2006-11-13 04:37 PM 發表

check out this link.

http://leeuwinestate.com.au/index.php?page=84

I only tried 1998 and 2002. The better vintages are listed at the bottom of the link.

Thanks for the info.
I seldom drink wine at home. I think i first need to buy some glasses...
Is there any hints on buying them?
There are so much to learn....

作者: alphagirl@ 時間: 2006-11-15 00:35

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原帖由 kenzo1111 於 2006-11-14 07:10 AM 發表
Leeuwin Art series Chadonnay probably the best white in Aussie although i have no chance to try it. The price is not expensive and money for value

by the way, wellcome our first gal in this t ...

IC...do you guys keep the bottle or the 木塞after you finished the wine?

作者: kenzo1111 時間: 2006-11-15 00:45

i keep the cork of the fine wine only.

For the glasses, Better buy Riedel or Schott. Ask the sales in wine shop such as Watson's or Ponti..

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2006-11-15 01:34

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原帖由 alphagirl@ 於 2006-11-14 04:32 PM 發表

Thanks for the info.
I seldom drink wine at home. I think i first need to buy some glasses...
Is there any hints on buying them?
There are so much to learn....

The hint on getting some glasses at home is........

Join us to the wine tasting and get a Riedel, for free. Each of us got one from last week's tasting.

作者: alphagirl@ 時間: 2006-11-15 23:30

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原帖由 kenzo1111 於 2006-11-14 04:45 PM 發表
i keep the cork of the fine wine only.

For the glasses, Better buy Riedel or Schott. Ask the sales in wine shop such as Watson's or Ponti..

Ok, thanks for letting me know.

作者: alphagirl@ 時間: 2006-11-15 23:34

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2006-11-14 05:34 PM 發表

The hint on getting some glasses at home is........

Join us to the wine tasting and get a Riedel, for free. Each of us got one from last week's tasting.

Ha..so everytime I go I will get a glass, right?
I only need one...+ 2 or 3 more for my fds...

How many do you guys taste at one time? I know when you drink different kinds, it may affect your taste???

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2006-11-16 00:07

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原帖由 alphagirl@ 於 2006-11-15 03:34 PM 發表

Ha..so everytime I go I will get a glass, right?
I only need one...+ 2 or 3 more for my fds...

How many do you guys taste at one time? I know when you drink different kinds, it may affect y ...

To get a glass, it all depends if Brother Kenzo1111 has done his due diligence.

How many we taste? We drink up to the limit but not to get drunk. It must have been over 20.

作者: kenzo1111 時間: 2006-11-16 01:09

That is just the first 500 tickets with free glass last time from Watson's wine cellar and we were the lucky one to get it.

Girl, spend some money to buy a Bordeaux first. For Schott, it is only about 100.
Last time i have tasted over 50, haha, affecting the taste? better than nothing
to taste. taste from white to red, rinse mouth every time,that is fine.

作者: alphagirl@ 時間: 2006-11-17 00:21 標題: 回復 #39 dejavu2003 的帖子

ic..how does a tasting party like?
people gather together drink different wine and share with each other?
do you have a specific topic each time? I mean how to choose wine for the party?

作者: alphagirl@ 時間: 2006-11-17 00:23

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原帖由 kenzo1111 於 2006-11-15 05:09 PM 發表
That is just the first 500 tickets with free glass last time from Watson's wine cellar and we were the lucky one to get it.

Girl, spend some money to buy a Bordeaux first. For Schott, it is only ...

wow..that must be big party, so many people???
ok, will check it out later for the glass.

Can tell more about wine? From the start, what basics need to know?

作者: kenzo1111 時間: 2006-11-17 00:50

u need a basic wine course woh.
haha, come out and let me teach u.
Buy a book for new drinker or goto library to borrow one.
Need to know the main wine type, red, white, champaigne, dessert wine...
then how to desribe the taste,
First of all, know the grape types.
Then, know the taste of the main grapes. Cabinet sauvignon, merlot, shiraz,
pinot noir, melbec,....
For the white: chadonnay, sauvignon blanc, riesling, semillon, gwerustaminer, pinot gris....
then know the countries
Old world{ French, Italian, Spanish. German.....
New world{ US, Aussie, Chilean, NZ, Argentina,
then draw into details into France, Italian, Aussie, US...as u like.
need to know what is champaigne.
SO complicated, rite?
ANyway, drink more and u will know more...no need to be too theoretical.
Interested to join our gathering?

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2006-11-17 01:11

Has anyone had this year's Beaujolais Nouveau? I had my first tonight - on Nov 16.

It seems they are coming out earlier and earlier each year.

作者: kenzo1111 時間: 2006-11-17 01:27

so early.!
let me try it tomorrow la.
good?
i want to try Moulin A Vent or St Amour, seems more complex and thicker.

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2006-11-17 01:35

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原帖由 kenzo1111 於 2006-11-16 05:27 PM 發表
so early.!
let me try it tomorrow la.
good?
i want to try Moulin A Vent or St Amour, seems more complex and thicker.

Good? As good as a Beaujolais Nouveau could be. Can it ever be complex?

I had the Georges Duboeuf but it was kind of pricey at the restaurant. But what the hack. You can only have it once a year.

作者: tailawyau 時間: 2006-11-17 18:55

Beaujolais Nouveau = fresh grage juice

kenzo, you are much more enthusastic in organizing dinner when there is female ~.<

作者: tailawyau 時間: 2006-11-17 19:24

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2006-11-13 04:37 PM 發表

check out this link.

http://leeuwinestate.com.au/index.php?page=84

I only tried 1998 and 2002. The better vintages are listed at the bottom of the link.

though a bit late, still want to express my views

for most new world wine, I think vintage is not that important as they irrigation and other "man-made" action are allowed while growing the grape
rather the brand / vineyard is much more important

作者: parklane 時間: 2006-11-20 12:57

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原帖由 tailawyau 於 2006-11-10 03:13 AM 發表
hi all

didn't know a new thread here
will come and check regularly

how about parklane and deju, where are they???

Hi all,
I am here.

You guys went to the watson's tasting together ? I was there too. What do you guys like.

I tasted an old bottle of burgundy at the corner of the hall. Quite good. And then there was the large format of an Australian wine (Peter Lehmann maybe), very different from regular sized bottle. The most interesting one is the 1993 white from France. Taste of dry rasin.

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2006-11-20 15:10

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原帖由 parklane 於 2006-11-20 04:57 AM 發表

Hi all,
I am here.

You guys went to the watson's tasting together ? I was there too. What do you guys like.

I tasted an old bottle of burgundy at the corner of the hall. Quite good. An ...

Long time no see ar. Welcome back.

I like the German Ice wine most. And the Peter Lehman too - from the 6 litre bottle of course.

作者: barton 時間: 2006-11-20 15:20

friends, where can I find Leeuwin's Chardonnay in HK? I know that Rare and Fine Wine has it, any other place of reasonable price? Thanks.

作者: kenzo1111 時間: 2006-11-21 00:44

Rare and Fine wine price is not high already.  If in Watson's, price must be    higher.

ar Tai,
first gal ar ma, more inspiration to us ar..hehe..

Parklane
I tasted an old bottle of burgundy at the corner of the hall..it is the 1985 vintage.  Onyl few bottles at the beginning. I tried it twice.
I was disappointed by all the Bordeaux this time.  I like the Delas Cote rotie.  The Italian wine, Spanish Chivite gran reserva and all the German wine esp the eiswien and Tba.  very impressive.

作者: tailawyau 時間: 2006-11-21 10:24

i like the italian wine of the night
actually i spent too much time at the italian counters, and didn't taste much of the french and aussie wine, what a waste

作者: parklane 時間: 2006-11-22 10:04

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原帖由 barton 於 2006-11-20 07:20 AM 發表
friends, where can I find Leeuwin's Chardonnay in HK? I know that Rare and Fine Wine has it, any other place of reasonable price? Thanks.

U can try wine buff in wanchai. They hosted a Leeuwin dinner about 2 months ago and they offers art series chardonnay for 03 vintage at less than 600 per bottle. But I will caution you that new vintage of Leeuwin is not always in its best form. 01 vintage is just beginning to show its wealth and 03 vintage may take even longer to mature. If you plan to buy and open, then I do not recommend Leeuwin. There are plenty of them out there at lower price can deliver the same joy today. Of course if you plan to store it for at least 5 years, Leeuwin art series chardonnay is the choice.

作者: parklane 時間: 2006-11-22 10:10

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2006-11-20 07:10 AM 發表

Long time no see ar. Welcome back.

I like the German Ice wine most. And the Peter Lehman too - from the 6 litre bottle of course.

Thank you. I planned to try the dry white first, then pinot, then red, then German white but by the time I went to German corner, everything is gone. What a pity.

Anyone recall the 1993 white from France with a very special taste. It is next to Delas Freres counter. I didnt jot down the brand but I quite like it.

作者: parklane 時間: 2006-11-22 10:14

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原帖由 kenzo1111 於 2006-11-20 04:44 PM 發表
Rare and Fine wine price is not high already. If in Watson's, price must be higher.

ar Tai,
first gal ar ma, more inspiration to us ar..hehe..

Parklane
I tasted an old bottle of b ...

Yes it is the 1985 clos vouguet but it is only of average quality. Of course, magnum of Delas Feres, I recall it to be Les Bressade 1999. Very nice wine. There is one more wine show this Saturday organised by winenow in Happy Valley, anyone going.

作者: tailawyau 時間: 2006-11-22 11:40

you mean the one organized by winenow?
i didn't order the advanced/discounted tickets >.<

作者: tailawyau 時間: 2006-11-22 16:34

hi parklane

where is wine buff?? the one opposite to Hopewell Centre?

作者: parklane 時間: 2006-11-23 15:19

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原帖由 tailawyau 於 2006-11-22 08:34 AM 發表
hi parklane

where is wine buff?? the one opposite to Hopewell Centre?

Yes it is a small shop opposite to the temple around Hopewell Center. There is nothing much you can window shop there. Better leave your name and email to them and they will send you the list of new stock every month by email.

作者: tailawyau 時間: 2006-11-27 14:10

how's the wine fair last week? anyone been there?

作者: kenzo1111 時間: 2006-11-27 23:41

i did not. By the way, there is a new supermarket called THREE SIXTY in Landmark Central. SO many organic wine and so less popular but very good wine from Loire, France, Aussie and NZ. If have time, worthy going for a look.

作者: tailawyau 時間: 2006-11-28 16:59

oh, is it? i didn't notice such new shop
i like the white (chinen blanc) from loire for their acidity and refreshness very much
will go there shortly

作者: kenzo1111 時間: 2006-11-29 00:05

ask the sales, they have very good chenin Blanc.

作者: amoureux_de_vin 時間: 2006-11-29 01:26

Hi! it's nice to read this thread! It's good place to share!

I'm a wine lover, but I'm only a beginner, hope bros won't mind. I'm not rich, the price range I've tried is HKD 50-1900 - the cheapest one is 1996 長城干紅 Cab Sau., the $1900 is a 1989 Lynch Bages. And I always drink alone, a.k.a less varieties I've tried.

I'd like to share 2 very interesting experience just happened recently: I had a bottle of Las Vacos Reserve 1998 with 打邊爐, at the beginning it's nothing special, but during the middle of the meal, I found the "pairing" is so wonderful! I found out it's the Las Vacos Reserve and the 辣椒豉油, they just match so good!

Anothe experience is Penfold St. Henri Shiraz 2001 with 大排檔黑椒羊鞍煲, I like Shiraz with 羊腩 for long time, but this time, the Shiraz with 羊鞍煲 is just exceed my expectation. Worth a try.

BTW, I'll have 避風塘炒蟹 with friends a few days later, I'm thinking of pair it with a sparkling wine - light to medium bodied, well balance of 甜酸度, I haven't tried this before, is it a good idea? Any recommendation?

[ 本帖最後由 amoureux_de_vin 於 2006-11-29 01:43 AM 編輯 ]

作者: amoureux_de_vin 時間: 2006-11-29 01:35

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原帖由 炮艇工兵 於 2006-10-21 08:26 AM 發表

95正!

I liked Lynch Bages, too, it's an all time favourite when dinning with biz friends, vintage I've tried: 89, 94, 96, 97, 99, 2000, they're very consistant and 96' 00' are outstanding, but too bad they're becoming over-priced now, 五級酒莊, 2級價錢! then I switched to Montrose, Les Fort du Latour.

作者: amoureux_de_vin 時間: 2006-11-29 01:40

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原帖由 kenzo1111 於 2006-8-23 12:27 AM 發表

ha, i am not tall at all and only have 178cm tall...
for the wine around $100....
my choice is all in Park'n shop
Montgras, Los Vasco when on sale...from 138 to $88
Also, the from win ...

I once follow the recommendation from Dee's blog, tried a JJ McWlliam's Cab Sau 2004 from Park'n shop, $99@, very enjoyable, very strict and no-nonsense, but when I try the Melot and CMS, that's another story.

作者: amoureux_de_vin 時間: 2006-11-29 01:41

BTW, 你地鐘意睇"神之水滴"嗎?

作者: amoureux_de_vin 時間: 2006-11-29 01:52

One more question: What's your favourite wine with oyster? Chablis? Chardonnay? Pouilly Fuisse? Others? I'd tried many but haven't found my favourite yet, any comment?

作者: kenzo1111 時間: 2006-11-29 02:07

wellcome amoureix,  Troplong Mondot is one of my favorite. Not very expensive. Med. body with its unique smokey taste.
Also, I think Champaigne is also a perfect match with oyster.  I personally seldom touch new world Chadonnay except Western Aussie and Washington. US
all u list are good for oyster. For Chablis, buy the grand Cru with little more money.
Don't forget Sancere and Muscadet Ser lie.
More suggestion : Gewruztraminer for Thai or Vietman food.

DeeTsang is higher ranked than most of us.  A master!

作者: kenzo1111 時間: 2006-11-29 02:11

Penfold St Henri's 2002 has got 95 pts by James Holliday. watch it!

For mutton, southern france is a good choice such as Cheateauneuf de Pape and Cote de Rhone Village.

作者: dejavu2003 時間: 2006-11-29 21:24

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原帖由 dejavu2003 於 2006-11-13 03:14 PM 發表

want to check on Amour de Deutz Champagne, Millesime 1999 Blanc de Blancs. Any good?

anyone tried that before?

作者: tailawyau 時間: 2006-11-30 17:57

ha, i wasted a bottle of Troplong Mondot 96 last time, she still has a long way to go, i opened too early

personally, using grand cru chablis with oyster is not my favourite as the 腥味 of oyster will become much stronger, i prefer using Muscadet Ser lie, the additional favour from the lees just make the wine very enjoyable

作者: barton 時間: 2006-12-1 23:07

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原帖由 parklane 於 2006-11-22 10:04 AM 發表

U can try wine buff in wanchai. They hosted a Leeuwin dinner about 2 months ago and they offers art series chardonnay for 03 vintage at less than 600 per bottle. But I will caution you that n ...

Thanks Parklane, can you suggest some good Chardonnay for short and medium term drinking? I like the more elegant and complex burgundy style.

作者: kenzo1111 時間: 2006-12-1 23:15

Columbia crest Grande Estate Chardonnay.
Very good in Dry Washington area. Burgundy like.

作者: tailawyau 時間: 2006-12-2 12:55

then why not going Burgundy direct?

作者: barton 時間: 2006-12-3 18:04

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原帖由 tailawyau 於 2006-12-2 12:55 PM 發表
then why not going Burgundy direct?

Because good Burgundy is very expansive and unstable. I find that it's quite difficult to find good Burgundy less than $600! Some good Domains (like Leory) charge more than $800 for their entry level wine.

作者: kenzo1111 時間: 2006-12-3 23:39

Tai gor,
Columbia Crest grande estate chardonnay is only about 150 and even 120 on ssales in Watson's. It is always the top 50 of Wine Spectator.
Everybody knows Merseult or Montrachet is good ar....money money money..

作者: channon1 時間: 2006-12-4 07:33

aust wine...penfolds
there is a muscat which is good....brown brothers orange..flora muscat

作者: parklane 時間: 2006-12-4 09:36

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原帖由 barton 於 2006-12-1 03:07 PM 發表

Thanks Parklane, can you suggest some good Chardonnay for short and medium term drinking? I like the more elegant and complex burgundy style.

Bannockburn chardonnay and Bass Phillip are very reliable choice but some bottle age is necessary. New wine, even white wine, need air. I will normally open it and leave it there for at least half an hour so that the sulflur, CO2 will blow away and the wine will taste much better. Both of them are at the range of 300-400. Another one I like very much is Ashbrook. It is also an Australian wine. I bought a case of 2001 last year during sale and the price is less than 200 (from Boutique Wine in Southern Horizon). If you like creamy, heavy wood, buttery style, Clauraut (you can find in Watson) is OK and it is ready to drink even for newer vintage. This wine is a little bit too easy to drink and too obvious which lose the elegance aspect but nevertheless will please many people.

作者: parklane 時間: 2006-12-4 09:50

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原帖由 amoureux_de_vin 於 2006-11-28 05:35 PM 發表

I liked Lynch Bages, too, it's an all time favourite when dinning with biz friends, vintage I've tried: 89, 94, 96, 97, 99, 2000, they're very consistant and 96' 00' are outstanding, but too ba ...

Bordeaux is becoming too expensive now. You just wont find any classified growth below 500 that you would eager to buy nowaday. And I observed a very very interesting phenomenon last week. I was in a wine tasting on Friday where it featured Aussie, California, Burgundy, Bordeaux, Italy and Rhone. The first counter that run out of wine is Burgundy, even the Bourgonge was gone. People are not too keen on Bordeaux. By the time I left, there are still bottles of Bordeaux there remained unopened (they are classified growth by the way). I think peoples palate has changed now.

作者: barton 時間: 2006-12-4 13:01

Thanks for kenzo1111 and Parklane's suggestion.
I also want to ask for the storage of wine, I have some white wine that stored in my office where temperature always keeps between 22-25 C but I find that many of the white loss their charming after 2 years, they are not especially bad but just has a feeling of flattened and a bit sour. I also find that most red Bordeaux stored in wine cellar developed a lot of sediment after 1-2 years of storage but the wines stored in my office has almost no sediment even they are the same wine as in my cellar, that's quite strange as I thought that higher temperature should cause the wine mature faster though they could be rough. Now I think that different temperature may force the wine to develope in different way, not only speed of maturity! how do you think?

作者: parklane 時間: 2006-12-5 09:10

white wine is very sensitive to heat and 22-25 degree will definitely force the wine to mature very quickly or even loss the flavour. If you do not have a cellar, better store it in the refrigerator or drink up fast, dun stock it up.
Many red wine right now are unfiltered so it is natural to flow sentiment. But if you find wine lost sentiment in hot environment, I have never experienced this. I suspect it may be due to bottle variation. When the wine are being extracted from the 255 liter barrel, some may carry the sentiment and some may not. You may also find that wine may be lighter than another bottle of the same wine because of this.

作者: tailawyau 時間: 2006-12-7 16:21

i had experience of two bottles of Chapoutier le Meal in the dinner
the 1st was excellent while the 2nd one was totally flat and showed nothing
and since then I seldom store white in my home unless i have a definite date of drinking

作者: Antenna 時間: 2006-12-17 16:28

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原帖由 tailawyau 於 2006-12-2 12:55 PM 發表
then why not going Burgundy direct?

What do u mean? Do you mean why not try Burgundy wines?

作者: Antenna 時間: 2006-12-17 16:34

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原帖由 kenzo1111 於 2006-11-29 02:11 AM 發表
Penfold St Henri's 2002 has got 95 pts by James Holliday. watch it!

For mutton, southern france is a good choice such as Cheateauneuf de Pape and Cote de Rhone Village.

I prefer RWT rather than St Henri, of course the price has a large gap between them. So I will try Saltram Bin No 1 Shiraz, the price is a little bit cheaper than St Henri, but the quality is marvellous!

Rhone wines are good in general but their style is quite different from Aussie. They are so elegant & stylish.

作者: Antenna 時間: 2006-12-17 16:41

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原帖由 parklane 於 2006-12-4 09:50 AM 發表

Bordeaux is becoming too expensive now. You just wont find any classified growth below 500 that you would eager to buy nowaday. And I observed a very very interesting phenomenon last week. I ...

It depends on .....
Burgundy wines are very good only to those high-priced i.e. over $500. Their style is very different from Bordeaux wines. I don't know what burgundy wines they opened. However, Burgundy wines seems not the main theme in HK. Recently, I love Burgundy wines.

作者: Antenna 時間: 2006-12-17 16:45

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原帖由 kenzo1111 於 2006-11-27 11:41 PM 發表
i did not. By the way, there is a new supermarket called THREE SIXTY in Landmark Central. SO many organic wine and so less popular but very good wine from Loire, France, Aussie and NZ. If have tim ...

Really? I will visit it shortly. How's the price?

作者: tailawyau 時間: 2006-12-19 12:20

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原帖由 Antenna 於 2006-12-17 08:45 AM 發表

Really? I will visit it shortly. How's the price?

i am the most impressed by the collection of armagnac in three sixty
it would be a great place for spirit lover to visit

but there was limited wine from lorie valley, a bit disappointed for me

作者: barton 時間: 2006-12-22 15:20

Thirty six's Bordeaux is quite expansive compare to other wine shop.

作者: barton 時間: 2006-12-22 15:21

Oh, it should be three sixty, not thirty six. quite strange name.

作者: tailawyau 時間: 2006-12-22 18:41

yes, price there is not cheap
just about the same price in watsons and city super

作者: Antenna 時間: 2006-12-23 00:41

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原帖由 tailawyau 於 2006-12-22 06:41 PM 發表
yes, price there is not cheap
just about the same price in watsons and city super

That sounds not attractive....
I only purchase discounted items in Watsons since their standard price items are not reasonable, sometimes crazy!!

作者: 可愛老頑童 時間: 2006-12-30 17:48

I've just spent about an hour reading through this thread, I find it very
interesting and informative.

Lacking any new input, pls allow me to just give it a......... PUSH !

Cheers & Happy New Year !

作者: 05606489 時間: 2007-1-1 16:58

Hi guys, I'm a beginner, I rec'd a bottle of St-Emillion Grand Cru 1999 of Chateau DE FONBEL as a 1st
prize of X'mas party. Someone told me it's very good and expensive, could you guys give your
professional comments !
thanks

作者: Antenna 時間: 2007-1-2 03:08

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原帖由 05606489 於 2007-1-1 04:58 PM 發表
Hi guys, I'm a beginner, I rec'd a bottle of St-Emillion Grand Cru 1999 of Chateau DE FONBEL as a 1st
prize of X'mas party. Someone told me it's very good and expensive, could you guys give your
...

Congratulation!
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year! (a little bit late ...=D)
The wine is fruity, silky & have a good body. However, it might have some earthy smell which you may not like it. The price is reasonable. I don't think it's expensive. It's value for money.
Enjoy your wine! =DDD

作者: tailawyau 時間: 2007-1-2 12:46

Chateau DE FONBEL is just a "so-so" wine selling at about 200 something in Watson's, not really outstanding one

The classification system in St Emilion is quite different from Bordeaux, the real good ones are Premiers Grands Crus Classes A & B, like Ausone, Cheval Blanc, etc. Grand Gru label in the area means nothing

next time, if you wish to check the prices, you can use this search engine:
http://www.wine-searcher.com/

作者: kenzo1111 時間: 2007-1-3 01:58

Happy new year!!!
hope u all get drunk in 2007 .....beside a pretty gal!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah!!!!!!!!!

作者: kenzo1111 時間: 2007-1-3 02:02

Tai gor,
De Fonbel is very good already for a beginner la.
05605489, u know, we are not young and few quota left for wine, Tai gor
always has good stuff ga.

可愛老頑童 , wellcome!!!
thanks for reminding me to update more!!!
hope to see u all guys more.

作者: Antenna 時間: 2007-1-3 15:45

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原帖由 kenzo1111 於 2007-1-3 02:02 AM 發表
Tai gor,
De Fonbel is very good already for a beginner la.
05605489, u know, we are not young and few quota left for wine, Tai gor
always has good stuff ga.

可愛老頑童 , wellcome!!!
thanks ...

What is "good stuff" stands for?

作者: kenzo1111 時間: 2007-1-3 23:47

good question!
it depends...that is!
to me, value for money!
to ar Tai, pretty gals and fine wine.

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