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§@ªÌ: colorbhk    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-10 14:28

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Not All returning Chinese are so naive and fool, many sunk deep but many are floating and playing with the waves.especially for those also playing the same game oversea at the same. Back to China is just a fesh new game with different nationality player, the money domination is different but the basic rule is the same. You work hard and play hard- that's the mentality.
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  I have exactly the feeling on working girls...  I told 2 of my closer lunchboxes in the past that I really admired their courage and gut to come all the way to China SOuth, doing something that no one feel excited to share about, and faced the prssure from their home that they had to get married before 25 and also all the bad words behind them, saying that they sacrificed their bodies for $$.....   Both of them wanted to study but terminated at different stages sinec their families did not have the $ to support them further and they could hardly get a decent job.

Of coures, you could say that they are greedy, they have no dignity.  Yes, they are greedy, their eyes are on $ and they know they are doing something immoral for $...   But look, when I was 17, i had just graduated Form 5, no financial pressure, my path (and most friends of that age) was straightforward, finished the A-level and tried to get into the University. We did not need to worry much about $ and future..  

Regarding topics to discuss, I coudl not expect MMs from China to communicate with me in English, or expet them how to drink/enjoy red wine.  However, do not forget we as HKer, also learnt how to drink red wine not many years ago.. In 80's , we still think that the older the red wine, the better. In fact, I was quite moved by my lunchbox when I told her the basic step of enjoying a glass of red wine and some stories about red wine, she sighed..  saying that I am so lucky to be a HKer, have the chance to know so many things, and they could not have the chance to be exposed to the outside world (and she must be thinking that she was so unlucky to spend the time with me rather than a handsome 20's years old young Chinese man, haha)...  I could not say a word for 10 sec...

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§@ªÌ: glucerna    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-11 01:28

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§@ªÌ: denny2000    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-11 01:38

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Good story.. Thanks for sharing..

As a man, most of us like to be rescuer...  Some do it with heart and money, I think you may be this kind (and apologize if I try to categorise you, or categorize you wrongly).   I would say that your heart must be very warm but hurting when she cried,  knowing that someone you loved so much was married to someone else (hurting) and feeling happy that she had a bright future (warm).  

It is fate to bring you two together...  You may never get another one that gave you the feel.  Although she is not with you anymore, at least you had this little sweet story to remember, may be for the whole life. ALthough you pay some $$, were at risk of damaging your family, etc.  but no pain no gain..
§@ªÌ: geprc    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-11 02:52

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§@ªÌ: simonkok    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-11 04:43

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§@ªÌ: mikechen830    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-11 05:20

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§@ªÌ: hongkonger    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-11 10:04

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  I have exactly the feeling on working girls...  I told 2 of my closer lunchboxes in the past that I really admired their courage and gut to come all the way to China SOu ...
Exactly right...
born in HK, u get better chance..education, job...
born in Canada...get your driver's lic at 16 and think what car Dad is going to buy u . ..
But born in China .. need to work as MMs....
§@ªÌ: Haidada    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-11 18:23

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§@ªÌ: pgod25    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-11 23:06

Very good report, thank you!
§@ªÌ: coke818    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-12 00:54

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This is the most touching report I ever read at here.  Totally are stories in stories..every day stories in China.  I am very happy to be friends..if we have chance..We are talking in same language.  Glad to be member at here.^^
§@ªÌ: denny2000    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-12 09:45

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§@ªÌ: icheng609    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-12 10:12

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§@ªÌ: denny2000    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-12 10:21

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But I could seldom follow this rule..
§@ªÌ: wkchi    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-12 10:38

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§@ªÌ: TaiChiSword    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-12 20:11

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I suppose we cannot really generalise in this way, as there are some professional ladies who know and read a lot.  Try the other thread in this forum, for example the 141 topic under this Guide ©]¹C­·¤ë , you will find some brothers here reallly appreciate some girls in the 141 or USB business who have the breath of taste and knowledge a lot of HK girls cannot even comprehend.  For that Univ. prof. it could well be the case.  But then, if you look at HK, anything is possible, right ?  a 28-year old kid who happens to know the right person in the government /political party will now earn in a month more than a cleaner can make in a year !  Nothing is going to surprise us anymore !!
§@ªÌ: Haidada    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-13 02:49

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But I think I own her a lot...

Her Mother always urged her to go home and get married...usual for people in the countryside...and she just refused and kept staying with me..not for money...I did not give her much money....

And of course she had to go home finally..at 24...a little money for her cannot compensate a small fraction of her priceless youth whenever I think of her..I feel...

§@ªÌ: icheng609    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-13 09:15

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But I think I own her a lot...

Her Mother always urged her to go home and get married...usual for people in the countryside...and she just refused and kept staying with me..not for money...I ...
Do you still have contact with her as good friends...? I think there is no problem and it will be good to keep up the good relationship though the affair is terminated.
§@ªÌ: 7-siu    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-13 10:07     ¼ÐÃD: ¦^´_ #65 icheng609 ªº©«¤l

But I think it is no good to both the girl and our friend if still keep the contact.
§@ªÌ: icheng609    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-13 10:16

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But I think it is no good to both the girl and our friend if still keep the contact.
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§@ªÌ: 7-siu    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-13 10:19     ¼ÐÃD: ¦^´_ #67 icheng609 ªº©«¤l

My No: 2 is a good example, she married and keep contact with me., which is 1 of the reasons she divorced.
§@ªÌ: colorbhk    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-13 10:26

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§@ªÌ: icheng609    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-13 10:27

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My No: 2 is a good example, she married and keep contact with me., which is 1 of the reasons she divorced.
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§@ªÌ: icheng609    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-13 10:30     ¼ÐÃD: ¦^´_ #69 colorbhk ªº©«¤l

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§@ªÌ: Haidada    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-13 11:57

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Do you still have contact with her as good friends...? I think there is no problem and it will be good to keep up the good relationship though the affair is terminated.
Yes, for the first half year or so and then one time when we were talking on the phone a man's voice was heard..and I could feel something wrongfrom the Mm's voice...
I did not call for a while and later MM changed her phone number...

It is good for me not to interfere with her anymore...and wish her good luck..and hope not to hear from her again...becos if she called again..something bad must have happeded...
§@ªÌ: icheng609    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-13 14:07

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Yes, for the first half year or so and then one time when we were talking on the phone a man's voice was heard..and I could feel something wrongfrom the Mm's voice...
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§@ªÌ: Haidada    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-13 14:35

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Can understand MM's situation..
Actually I would not be happy if I hear my lunch box talk to another man..
And I would ask who she just talked to...even if I know there is nothing between them...
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§@ªÌ: icheng609    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-13 14:50

Having "Big Coke with Lemon" at Cafe de Coral................ What will the result be?
§@ªÌ: colorbhk    ®É¶¡: 2008-6-13 14:54

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Having "Big Coke with Lemon" at Cafe de Coral................ What will the result be?
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