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I think he refers to the social system that  " Cultured " this mindset.
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I think he refers to the social system that  " Cultured " this mindset.
Is this the one you are blaiming:

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It takes education and integrity to be law abiding citizens, however, this will never happen under communist rule as it is the party that determines the " law ".
Lawless = no integrity, like so many people you can find even in Hong Kong.
Lack of Education = zero knowledge, only listen to what the commie said and obey it like a slave.
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It takes education and integrity to be law abiding citizens, however,this will never happen under communist rule as it is the party thatdetermines the " law ".
Lawless = no integrity, like so many people you can find even in Hong Kong.
Lawless ?
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>>>Lack of Education = zero knowledge, only listen to what the commie said and obey it like a slave.
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only listen to what the commie said ?
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Can you do that in Hong Kong?
Bringing  Estacy and sell in Hong Kong ?
Bring an AK47 and shoot in the market ?

You can do that in China, at least there are news that people shooting AK47 in newly established dance hall a few months ago.
Lawless = commie.

If the commie do not allow you to speak, you dare not speak.
That is the case in China.
So you call the " tiger " a big case,  did you mentioned "Dr. Jiang Yanyong " who exposed the SARs cases now  "Jiang Yanyong, as a soldier, recently violated the relevant disciplineof the military. Based on relevant regulations, the military has beenhelping and educating him"? ...  
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No one collects their milk products now.  And all goes down the drain.
Secondly, the death toll are much higher than 4, in particular, if you run out of money,
which most rural farmer don't have much in the first place, the hospital will stop treatment and those babies have to go home
and died there.  Those figures won't be collect.

It is very obvious that this tragedy will repeats itself under the current system.
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The mis-concept here is ignoring the most basic stabilizing mechanism in modern society - Democracy and an open society.
No leader is perfect and when leaders banned and punishes others for saying what they think, another idiot may headed all into another "cultural revolution".
Just thinking the commies will be perfect is like building castles on quick sand.
For a few years they might stand, but not for long until another came along.
To maintain trust and believes in the commies, the party had always distort news, truth and facts.
What will you do when you know the people don't elect you.

The commies only rule by lies, under certain illusions to make you believe that they are the only hope for China.
Not that I am saying they are always doing that, but they have greater intention to lie than to let the people know, just because the empowerment of their ruling is not delegated from the people, but from the coherence within their own commie party members.
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Your quoted examples are not the result of democracy.
Actually, they are examples of abuse of democracy.
Fair to say, most modern society are democratic. , did that speak for itself already ?

Can you blame the knife / the inventor of knife if someone uses it to kill another guy instead of cutting foodstuff ?

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Comparatively speaking issue :  Democratic society needs the vote from everybody, so they have to reveal as much in their advantage as possible, while rivals will reveal as much against them.  =>  ³Ì¤½¶}³Ì¯u¹ê.  It will be too naive to believe all that you had been told.
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