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作者: icac 時間: 2006-11-29 20:56 標題: 中交(1800)大家抽吾抽?

中交(1800)大家抽吾抽?

作者: icac 時間: 2006-11-29 20:58

sorry

吾知有brother post 佐

作者: hwk 時間: 2006-11-30 02:58

yes, why not

作者: Free2Go 時間: 2006-11-30 09:51

一定抽...................................

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-11-30 10:13

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原帖由 Free2Go 於 2006-11-30 09:51 AM 發表
一定抽...................................

AGREED!!

作者: kevintom 時間: 2006-11-30 22:13

must get this.

作者: ahfahfa 時間: 2006-11-30 23:34

抽了.我想很多人都會抽了.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-12-1 09:37

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原帖由 ahfahfa 於 2006-11-30 11:34 PM 發表
抽了.我想很多人都會抽了.

May need to wait for longer. I don't think it can go up more than 20% on first day.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-12-1 11:01

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原帖由 kevintom 於 2006-11-30 10:13 PM 發表
must get this.

中國交通建設(1800)執行董事兼首席財務傅俊圓表示,公司預計今明兩年的資本性開支將達151億元人民幣(下同),其中06年佔73億元,07年約78億元,大部分資金都用於基建,其次是港口業務。該公司主席周紀昌表示雖然基建的利潤率較低,但公司進入鐵路業務之後,相信基建的利潤率將會改善。

周紀昌表示,去年該公司已獲得中國政府批准成為數家高等級可以進入鐵路行業的企業。自從去年公司進入鐵路行業後,在鐵路的巿場份額已達到90%,但目前具體的利潤率不能披露。

該公司目前的整體純利率只有2%,周紀昌表示,主要因為分包業務成本增加,導致利潤率下跌.今後公司將加強管理,控制分包成本,以及優化資源配置。

Will take time for investments to generate return!

作者: 小花至愛 時間: 2006-12-1 11:57

I've drawn 15 lots in my wife's e-banking account,,, will draw 15 more in mine,,,,

作者: best328 時間: 2006-12-1 12:02

Em... Not a bad choice!

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-12-1 12:43

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原帖由 best328 於 2006-12-1 12:02 PM 發表
Em... Not a bad choice!

So will u buy?

作者: SamDor 時間: 2006-12-1 13:23

Surely i will apply

作者: potatogundam 時間: 2006-12-1 14:06

我剛剛問大褔, 只餘下很少 margin

作者: FeiJai 時間: 2006-12-1 14:50

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2006-12-1 03:01 AM 發表

中國交通建設(1800)執行董事兼首席財務傅俊圓表示,公司預計今明兩年的資本性開支將達151億元人民幣(下同),其中06年佔73億元,07年約78億元,大部分資金都用於基建,其次是港口業務。該公司主席周紀昌表示雖然基建的 ...

Overall margin is 2% only...

Why would anyone want to make an investment on such a business? Put it into your bank saving account and you get more, with much less risk.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-12-1 15:09

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原帖由 FeiJai 於 2006-12-1 02:50 PM 發表
Overall margin is 2% only... Why would anyone want to make an investment on such a business? Put it into your bank saving account and you get more, with much less risk.

It's not about margin. It is about POTENTIAL!

作者: icac 時間: 2006-12-1 19:34

和長江基建比較,那一隻好

作者: King+Garden 時間: 2006-12-1 19:53

抽 !!!!

作者: alex1999 時間: 2006-12-1 20:36

抽, 中長線持有

預抽了六手

作者: ngaiso 時間: 2006-12-1 22:32

長短皆宜

一定抽 Good luck everybody!!!

作者: FeiJai 時間: 2006-12-1 22:48

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2006-12-1 07:09 AM 發表

It's not about margin. It is about POTENTIAL!

Oh yea, POTENTIAL, do you know what the POTENTIAL will be? Upward POTENTIAL or DOWNWARD POTENTIAL? A business with 2% current margin, 4% will be called double, 6% will be called as triple... I wonder how easy it will be to double the margin of a business...

作者: cyberken 時間: 2006-12-2 09:42

中國交通建設（１８００）初步招股文件披露，該公司計劃於在上海Ａ股，２００８年前發行不多於３５億股Ａ股，惟現時未正式向中國證監遞交有關申請，故未有上市準確的上市時間表，Ａ股發行價會按上市時的市場情況而釐訂。

另外，市場消息透露，中東投資者對中交股份有極大興趣，沙地王子已入大飛認購中交，認購金額相等總發行規模的三成，但未知最終獲分配多少。

中交的初步招股文件已披露，該公司已獲三名策略投資者入股，包括中國人壽集團、新世界發展（００１７）主席鄭裕彤及新加坡政府已同意入股，三方將分別入股１﹒６２５億股。

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-12-3 16:01

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原帖由 FeiJai 於 2006-12-1 10:48 PM 發表
Oh yea, POTENTIAL, do you know what the POTENTIAL will be? Upward POTENTIAL or DOWNWARD POTENTIAL? A business with 2% current .

Just wait and see la!

作者: FeiJai 時間: 2006-12-3 22:08

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2006-12-3 08:01 AM 發表

Just wait and see la!

Just noticed that raw material price index has been on a strong rise in mainland, and that will put a heavy pressure on the overall margin of 1800. So we will see.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-12-4 08:54

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原帖由 FeiJai 於 2006-12-3 10:08 PM 發表
Just noticed that raw material price index has been on a strong rise in mainland, and that will put a heavy pressure on the overall margin of 1800. So we will see.

Anyway, if below IPO price, I will buy more #1800 from market.

作者: agenttong 時間: 2006-12-4 22:13

go ahead

agree
ues
yes
yes

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-12-4 22:29

[quote]原帖由 agenttong 於 2006-12-4 10:13 PM 發表
go ahead

作者: leoxi 時間: 2006-12-4 23:17

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2006-12-4 08:54 AM 發表

Anyway, if below IPO price, I will buy more #1800 from market.

Below price??

If the market is that bad, UBS, ML and BOCI could set the price at the low end.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-12-5 10:05

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原帖由 leoxi 於 2006-12-4 11:17 PM 發表
Below price?? If the market is that bad, UBS, ML and BOCI could set the price at the low end.

Which is very unlikely!

作者: 東虫 時間: 2006-12-5 17:10

抽二球

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-12-5 17:48

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原帖由東虫於 2006-12-5 05:10 PM 發表
抽二球

Sure WIN if today's H stocks excellent performance continue!

作者: 東虫 時間: 2006-12-5 17:55

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-12-7 10:15

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原帖由東虫於 2006-12-5 05:55 PM 發表

中交建設(1800)昨截止公開認購,市場消息指,經初步點算,超額認購約200-220倍,凍結資金近1800億元,料不能一人一手;至於國際配售部份,則超購50倍。
中交以上限4.6元定價機會很大。而市場昨已傳出暗盤叫價高見8.75元,較招股價上限升逾90%。

作者: eatallcheesecak 時間: 2006-12-7 10:36 標題: 回復 #33 peninsula 的帖子

I will be satisfied by a 50% increase.

作者: b4321 時間: 2006-12-7 10:56

I have applied 1.6M shares. If it rises 90% in day 1, it will be a year-end
desert for me.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-12-7 11:19

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原帖由 b4321 於 2006-12-7 10:56 AM 發表
I have applied 1.6M shares. If it rises 90% in day 1, it will be a year-end
desert for me.

50% is good enough!

作者: leoxi 時間: 2006-12-7 23:27

$8.75???

Seems too much in 1 day, probably 15-20%

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-12-9 16:41

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原帖由 leoxi 於 2006-12-7 11:27 PM 發表
$8.75???
Seems too much in 1 day, probably 15-20%

Probably under 25%.

作者: leoxi 時間: 2006-12-9 23:27

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2006-12-9 04:41 PM 發表

Probably under 25%.

Within 1 day, not too certain

Within 1 to 2 weeks, very likely

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-12-10 20:20

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原帖由 leoxi 於 2006-12-9 11:27 PM 發表
Within 1 day, not too certain
Within 1 to 2 weeks, very likely

Yoiu mean Day 1, it will be more than 25% gain or less??

作者: potatogundam 時間: 2006-12-10 21:06

這股我準備作長期投資, 我估它會慢慢升

作者: leoxi 時間: 2006-12-10 21:33

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2006-12-10 08:20 PM 發表

Yoiu mean Day 1, it will be more than 25% gain or less??

Within 1 day, less than 25% gain
Within 2 week, > 25% gain

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-12-11 09:33

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原帖由 potatogundam 於 2006-12-10 09:06 PM 發表
這股我準備作長期投資, 我估它會慢慢升

Newspaper said over 50% increase expected!

作者: b4321 時間: 2006-12-14 11:52

I should have around 20K - 21K shares.

If there is $4 gain per share, I should have a gross profit around
$80K .... a fat fat Christmas Holiday!

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-12-14 13:02

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原帖由 b4321 於 2006-12-14 11:52 AM 發表
I should have around 20K - 21K shares.
If there is $4 gain per share, I should have a gross profit around
$80K .... a fat fat Christmas Holiday!

I think at least 50% increase. How much margin did you use?

作者: 波記 時間: 2006-12-14 13:21

兩隻都唔中, 灰到爆!

作者: b4321 時間: 2006-12-14 14:07

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2006-12-14 01:02 PM 發表

I think at least 50% increase. How much margin did you use?

Around 1.6M X 4.6 = $7.4M

If using too little margin or by cash, it is a waste of chance.

Next round will be 株洲南車, but margin size is only around $3.5M.
Many brokers were not offering margin or offering with limited
margin for this share, so I expect the over-subscription won't be
much and I should be able to get many.

[ 本帖最後由 b4321 於 2006-12-14 02:36 PM 編輯 ]

作者: hklistco 時間: 2006-12-14 15:27

I used 10% cash to borrow 90% margin (rate 4.8% p.a., from a broker house)
I got 94K shares
I heard the grey market price is $8.7, my cost is $5.0 (interest and others included)

作者: 小花至愛 時間: 2006-12-14 15:49

I draw 15 lots but got none!!!

lucky that got 2 lots of 2006 by drawing 30....

作者: alia 時間: 2006-12-14 16:03

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原帖由 小花至愛 於 2006-12-14 03:49 PM 發表
I draw 15 lots but got none!!!

lucky that got 2 lots of 2006 by drawing 30....

You are unlucky...

作者: 科拿仔 時間: 2006-12-14 16:56

抽中一手，希望聽日有$7.5啦。

作者: mmr.ren 時間: 2006-12-14 17:04

我都有一手，個價唔太離譜明天再追入

作者: potatogundam 時間: 2006-12-14 17:06

我有 2000 股, 太少啦

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-12-14 17:55

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原帖由 mmr.ren 於 2006-12-14 05:04 PM 發表
我都有一手，個價唔太離譜明天再追入

中交建設(1800)明日掛牌,市場最新傳出有歐資行代客安排暗盤沽貨,叫價約6.5元,較上限定價4.6元高出41%。

市場人士指出,中交建設暗盤叫價差異頗大由6-9元不等,但以中交市值之大,上市初期能升20%表現已算不俗。

作者: leoxi 時間: 2006-12-15 00:26

Planning to buy some 1800 tomorrow. Hopefully the price is decent

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-12-15 10:46

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原帖由 leoxi 於 2006-12-15 12:26 AM 發表
Planning to buy some 1800 tomorrow. Hopefully the price is decent

Rise to over $7 is a little bit unexpected but market is very crazy!

作者: b4321 時間: 2006-12-15 12:29

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2006-12-15 10:46 AM 發表

Rise to over $7 is a little bit unexpected but market is very crazy!

社保基金 should be selling the shares in the 1st few days as 社保基金
is restricted to hold only very little oversea stocks in its profolio.

I'll wait for a few days or hold for medium to long term. This is a dragon
head.

作者: mmr.ren 時間: 2006-12-15 12:50

$7.8 finally... didn't catch the chance, but I bought some more when it's 6.75

作者: b4321 時間: 2006-12-15 12:56

Very big transactions.... Who can have that many shares to sell? From 社保基金?

12-15 10:52 中國交通建設(1800)出現大手賣出500萬股，成交價$6.7，涉資3.35千萬 [ AA]
12-15 10:43 中國交通建設(1800)出現大手買入500萬股，成交價$7.0，涉資3.5千萬 [ AA]
12-15 10:42 中國交通建設(1800)出現大手賣出300萬股，成交價$6.7，涉資2.01千萬 [ AA]
12-15 10:41 中國交通建設(1800)出現大手買入200萬股，成交價$7.05，涉資1.41千萬 [ AA]
12-15 10:30 中國交通建設(1800)出現大手賣出190萬股，成交價$7.0，涉資1.33千萬 [ AA]
12-15 10:26 中國交通建設(1800)出現大手買入100萬股，成交價$7.0，涉資700萬 [ AA]
12-15 10:19 中國交通建設(1800)出現大手賣出1千萬股，成交價$4.65，涉資4.65千萬 [ AA]
12-15 10:12 中國交通建設(1800)出現大手買入100萬股，成交價$6.8，涉資680萬 [ AA]
12-15 10:11 中國交通建設(1800)出現大手買入180萬股，成交價$7.0，涉資1.26千萬 [ AA]
12-15 10:10 中國交通建設(1800)出現大手買入190萬股，成交價$7.0，涉資1.33千萬 [ AA]
12-15 10:08 中國交通建設(1800)出現大手買入100萬股，成交價$7.0，涉資700萬 [ AA]
12-15 10:08 中國交通建設(1800)出現大手賣出100萬股，成交價$6.3，涉資630萬 [ AA]
12-15 10:07 中國交通建設(1800)出現大手賣出220萬股，成交價$6.45，涉資1.419千萬 [ AA]
12-15 10:05 中國交通建設(1800)出現大手買入120萬股，成交價$7.7，涉資924萬 [ AA]
12-15 10:05 中國交通建設(1800)出現大手賣出750萬股，成交價$6.5，涉資4.875千萬 [ AA]
12-15 10:05 中國交通建設(1800)出現大手賣出90萬股，成交價$6.35，涉資571.5萬 [ AA]
12-15 10:00 中國交通建設(1800)出現大手賣出100萬股，成交價$4.7，涉資470萬 [ AA]
12-15 10:00 中國交通建設(1800)出現大手買入230萬股，成交價$7.8，涉資1.794千萬 [ AA]
12-15 09:50 中國交通建設(1800)出現大手賣出1億股，成交價$7.8，涉資7.8億 [ AA]
12-15 09:50 中國交通建設(1800)出現大手賣出2.06千萬股，成交價$7.8，涉資1.607億 [ AA]

[ 本帖最後由 b4321 於 2006-12-15 12:57 PM 編輯 ]

作者: 東虫 時間: 2006-12-15 13:25

Up Up and Away

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-12-15 15:39

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原帖由東虫於 2006-12-15 01:25 PM 發表
Up Up and Away

But back down to close to $6 in the afernoon!

作者: mmr.ren 時間: 2006-12-15 16:13

close at 6.33....

作者: leoxi 時間: 2006-12-15 23:33

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原帖由 b4321 於 2006-12-15 12:56 PM 發表
Very big transactions.... Who can have that many shares to sell? From 社保基金?

12-15 10:52 中國交通建設(1800)出現大手賣出500萬股，成交價$6.7，涉資3.35千萬
12-15 10:43 中國交通建設(1800)出現大 ...

I saw the entire "action" this morning. It started at $7.80, then within 3 minutes it slipped to $6.80.

I wonder who bought the shares early in the morning?

作者: gtc 時間: 2006-12-16 00:17

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作者: 東虫 時間: 2006-12-16 04:16

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2006-12-15 07:39 AM 發表

But back down to close to $6 in the afernoon!

Up Up and Away

作者: eatallcheesecak 時間: 2006-12-16 13:13

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原帖由 leoxi 於 2006-12-15 03:33 PM 發表
I saw the entire "action" this morning. It started at $7.80, then within 3 minutes it slipped to $6.80.

I wonder who bought the shares early in the morning?

I missed morning's action, and by the time I got to the phone the price it was $6.6 and I sold it all.

[ 本帖最後由 eatallcheesecak 於 2006-12-16 05:23 AM 編輯 ]

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-12-16 19:39

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原帖由 eatallcheesecak 於 2006-12-16 01:13 PM 發表
I missed morning's action, and by the time I got to the phone the price it was $6.6 and I sold it all.

Still a very nice profit!!

作者: eatallcheesecak 時間: 2006-12-17 01:28

Yes, i am very pleased and satisfied with the profit. Though, mostly spent on a girl

作者: potatogundam 時間: 2006-12-17 18:55

如果星期一只是 6 元多, 我想買入一些, 是否值得, any comment ?

作者: titov 時間: 2006-12-17 21:10

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原帖由 potatogundam 於 2006-12-17 18:55 發表
如果星期一只是 6 元多, 我想買入一些, 是否值得, any comment ?

我諗可以睇多幾日先。

作者: leoxi 時間: 2006-12-17 23:30

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原帖由 titov 於 2006-12-17 09:10 PM 發表

我諗可以睇多幾日先。

Don't wait for too long, or else you might miss the ride.

This stock reminds me of 3968 in Oct

作者: ytt 時間: 2006-12-18 02:20

afraid may fly up 15-20 percent monday and eventually up 20-30 percent next week. pity not buy last fridat at 6.3

作者: b4321 時間: 2006-12-18 10:17

Being traded at $6.11......

I'll start to buy the 1st batch if below $6.

作者: leoxi 時間: 2006-12-18 13:29

$6 would be a very strong support point... perhaps buy around $6.05

作者: mmr.ren 時間: 2006-12-18 15:56

the first morning is very wonderful.... long long ask/bid queue at $7.8... and then drop to $7 in less than 1 minute!

I think we better wait a bit for this one, many white form guys will be selling

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-12-18 22:07

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原帖由 leoxi 於 2006-12-18 01:29 PM 發表
$6 would be a very strong support point... perhaps buy around $6.05

Under $6 can be reached soon!

作者: mmr.ren 時間: 2006-12-19 11:55

really dropped below $6 today, but raise back now... this one really need EQ to play.

作者: potatogundam 時間: 2006-12-19 13:52

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原帖由 mmr.ren 於 2006-12-19 11:55 AM 發表
really dropped below $6 today, but raise back now... this one really need EQ to play.

星期五出輪, 可能要當天才升

作者: leoxi 時間: 2006-12-20 00:36

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原帖由 potatogundam 於 2006-12-19 01:52 PM 發表

星期五出輪, 可能要當天才升

If so then better buy it tomorrow morning

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-12-20 02:08

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原帖由 leoxi 於 2006-12-20 12:36 AM 發表
If so then better buy it tomorrow morning

Have gone back over $6 at close. Expect to be moving between $5.8 to $6.5 range.

作者: mmr.ren 時間: 2006-12-20 15:02

呢隻野真係古怪。。。放多一陣應該上得返之前追入個價，但就搞到我一早放左 1388... 放左之後依家仲升緊，真係升到 bra bra 聲...

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-12-20 15:37

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原帖由 mmr.ren 於 2006-12-20 03:02 PM 發表
呢隻野真係古怪。。。放多一陣應該上得返之前追入個價，但就搞到我一早放左 1388... 放左之後依家仲升緊，真係升到 bra bra 聲...

Moved to $6.5 now!

作者: mmr.ren 時間: 2006-12-20 15:40

唉。。。我 $6.75 追入呢。。。除返開連埋抽倒既都未需要蝕。。。

希望早日上 $7 樓上!

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-12-20 15:42

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原帖由 mmr.ren 於 2006-12-20 03:40 PM 發表
唉。。。我 $6.75 追入呢。。。除返開連埋抽倒既都未需要蝕。。。
希望早日上 $7 樓上!

$7 can be reached soon. Don't worry!

作者: mmr.ren 時間: 2006-12-20 17:19

其實我心諗起碼 $7.8!

作者: leoxi 時間: 2006-12-21 00:24

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原帖由 mmr.ren 於 2006-12-20 05:19 PM 發表
其實我心諗起碼 $7.8!

That's very optimistic.

It's pretty hard to predict what happens to 1800 when the warrants are listed. On one hand that could be a demand, but at the same time it is the day before long weekend.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-12-21 02:16

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原帖由 leoxi 於 2006-12-21 12:24 AM 發表
That's very optimistic.
It's pretty hard to predict what happens to 1800 when the warrants are listed. On one hand that could be a demand, but at the same time it is the day before long ...

Wait and see. Should be reached in Jan. 2007.

作者: mmr.ren 時間: 2006-12-21 10:39

今日返到家鄉啦....

我唔心急架，等幾個月都無問題，因為已經放左好幾隻股票，夠錢交稅仲夠錢入其它添!

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-12-21 11:02

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原帖由 mmr.ren 於 2006-12-21 10:39 AM 發表
今日返到家鄉啦....
我唔心急洵陘w經放左好幾隻股票，夠錢交稅仲夠錢入其它添!

It is a good stock so don't worry!

作者: mmr.ren 時間: 2006-12-21 11:25

agree.... 有機再入多 D!!!

作者: mmr.ren 時間: 2006-12-21 12:49

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原帖由 mmr.ren 於 2006-12-20 07:02 AM 發表
呢隻野真係古怪。。。放多一陣應該上得返之前追入個價，但就搞到我一早放左 1388... 放左之後依家仲升緊，真係升到 bra bra 聲...

救命呀! 1388 真係仲有得升，之前自己研究覺得呢隻有前途，點知出面完全無人提，新聞又無乜，我以為無乜人會掂，所以太早放左。。。今日仲係咁上，後悔中

作者: alia 時間: 2006-12-21 14:11

6.53再入...

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-12-22 16:28

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原帖由 alia 於 2006-12-21 02:11 PM 發表
6.53再入...

#1800, right? Good deal!

作者: alia 時間: 2006-12-22 16:48

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2006-12-22 04:28 PM 發表

#1800, right? Good deal!

Yes!! Done at IEP on yesterday...

[ 本帖最後由 alia 於 2006-12-22 04:49 PM 編輯 ]

作者: leoxi 時間: 2006-12-22 17:52

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2006-12-20 03:42 PM 發表

$7 can be reached soon. Don't worry!

Closed over $7 today. Very content

作者: wt29 時間: 2006-12-24 20:28

I bought #1800 at $6.76,
I felt this is a very good share.

作者: peninsula 時間: 2006-12-25 01:04

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原帖由 wt29 於 2006-12-24 08:28 PM 發表
I bought #1800 at $6.76,
I felt this is a very good share.

No worry. $8 can be reached soon.

作者: mmr.ren 時間: 2006-12-28 11:19

I wonder this one should hold longer, or to freeze some profit first....

作者: leoxi 時間: 2006-12-28 13:43

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原帖由 mmr.ren 於 2006-12-28 11:19 AM 發表
I wonder this one should hold longer, or to freeze some profit first....

If you aim for short term (like within few weeks), perhaps you should.

I am holding on to my positions. I rather miss out short term volatility in exchange for long-term performance. Besides, you never know will there be a 10% in 1 day similar to 3328, 2318 or 2628.

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