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§@ªÌ: jj2jr    ®É¶¡: 2010-10-9 14:50

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§@ªÌ: jj2jr    ®É¶¡: 2010-10-9 15:16

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§@ªÌ: jj2jr    ®É¶¡: 2010-10-9 15:44

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§@ªÌ: jj2jr    ®É¶¡: 2010-10-10 12:41

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§@ªÌ: jj2jr    ®É¶¡: 2010-10-10 16:14

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§@ªÌ: jj2jr    ®É¶¡: 2010-10-10 17:13

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§@ªÌ: jj2jr    ®É¶¡: 2010-10-11 17:00

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§@ªÌ: jj2jr    ®É¶¡: 2010-10-11 17:37

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»¡¹L¤F M4A1 ¤§«á,¶¶§Ç°Q½×¤@¤U M4A2 ¦n¤F.

M4A2 ¥D­nªº§ïÅÜ´N¬O¥Î¤F¤@²Õ³q¥Î¥X²£ªº GM 6046 ®ãªo¤ÞÀº,¨®´ß¬O¥Î²kÅK»s¦¨,³\¦h³¡¥ó³£¬O¥Î¹q²kª½±µ¥[¤u¦b¨®¨­¤W,¦]¦¹¥Í²£¤u®É¥i¥H´î¤Ö.¤U­±¬O M4A2 ªº¼Ë¨®,¨®ÀY¦³¤T¤ä¾÷ºj,¬¶¶ð¤Wªº 75 ¬¶¥ª­±¤S¬O¤@¤ä¦P¶b¾÷ºj.



§@ªÌ: jj2jr    ®É¶¡: 2010-10-13 16:02

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§@ªÌ: jj2jr    ®É¶¡: 2010-10-13 19:41

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§@ªÌ: jj2jr    ®É¶¡: 2010-10-13 20:00

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§@ªÌ: jj2jr    ®É¶¡: 2010-10-14 09:30

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§@ªÌ: jj2jr    ®É¶¡: 2010-10-14 09:41

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§@ªÌ: jj2jr    ®É¶¡: 2010-10-14 12:50

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