thanks 炮艇工兵  for his suggestions and article.  Attitude and language is good.  However, what you see is not so correct.  Let me correct.  Though I see some constructive positive suggestions.

Yes, my management style might not be something you like.  You can't make a movie or place that 100% of people like it.  Nobody in the world can do it.  I have to make those 10% of people get out of here and remain those who can be peaceful.  Just because 10% of people just shout and shout and influence those other 90% of people.

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And you elected to not respond to either that thread or my thread

Totally wrong.  Very wrong.  I did respond.  And the fact is: loksiu say/speculate something without concrete evidence support.  

The point is : he and his "friends" break our law of our forum.  Peace.  I only want peace.

totally wrong, he didn't merely ask a question.  He is 誹謗.  He said someone collects money for illegal stuff... what's your evidence?

questioning someone sin is very impolite...  especially someone didn't have a sin.   And you didn't have concrete evidence.
If someone question about you to ask if you have committed that sin but without evidence publicly, you're very embarrassed...
Try it out for your friends, you won't even do it.
Just because you're hidden in the Internet, you did it.  And it is very impolite.
I repeat, no one is prosecuted...

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原帖由 白貓兒 於 2007-8-18 13:41 發表
I repeat, loksiu did not name anyone in that utterance.
I think you speculate he alluded to 流料.....'speculate', to use your word.

I repeat that I do not particularly approve of loksiu's manne ...

He is not speculating... he lead many many other users to think that 流料 break the HK law.  He is very successful in it.  Proven.  No need to use the word "speculate" any more... PROVEN AND PROVEN TO BE SUCCESSFUL... a lot of users believe in that and ask me why I allow someone break the law... very very successful...

If someone say it in the public and asked : "hey, I saw someone on the street promoting sex trade SEEM/LOOK LIKE your mother?  Is that true?".  Even if it is speculating... it is very very insulting...  so, here you speculate someone violate the law... that's more than meets the eyes...sorry, more than breaks the law... more than insulting...  

If you want to discuss with me, pls read every one of the post before posting... I see your strong language skill and writing skill, you need to improve your reading skill.  I also appreciate your legal skill.  But you have to understand more evidence...

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原帖由 白貓兒 於 2007-8-18 13:41 發表
I repeat, loksiu did not name anyone in that utterance.
I think you speculate he alluded to 流料.....'speculate', to use your word.

I repeat that I do not particularly approve of loksiu's manne ...

You didn't see it doesn't mean you he didn't do it.
He has the right to imply or use subtle ways to imply... that is insulting as well.. and that is 誹謗 as well...
And most importantly, he also explicitly say it... and proven, YES PROVEN, a lot of other members believe in him...

loksiu tend to break many many minor rules so that it is not clear.  But the whole picture and the accumulation is very troublesome to our forum... do you think I ban loksiu's decision is within 10 days?  No, it is already over 1 year...  I have that in mind for over 1 year...  so it is a hard decision to make... unless now concrete evidence is clear.

That thread is like "how to create a bomb" to bomb this forum... I will forget it forever... Will you make publish a article on how to create a bomb in the Internet?  That is obvsiouly illegal and devastating...

Everyone involved in that thread are highly suspected to bomb our forum or make us die... I'm sorry again and again that some good persons are accidentally killed, but I have resumed their accounts, and make them alive again, on the name of God, sorry, not God , on the name of xocat...    They are alive again easily ... provided that they are willing to talk to me politely, they have the right to have different opinions... but polite different opiniions are surely welcome.

I'm very troubled during that time I don't know who is my friend and who is 無間道.  Have you seen that movie?  I'm the one who is so afraid.  So frightened that I have to ban many of them... I have no choice during that time.  Now I see more clearly and willing to see more clearly and thus many have been unbanned, unless they are the group of loksiu...

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原帖由 白貓兒 於 2007-8-18 14:06 發表


Whether a particular subtle implication amounts to libel is for the judge to decide.
However, here you are:
The Executive, The Legislature, The Judiciary. All three branches of government in  ...

ha ha... our forum still stay at the law technology of 包公時代... me too, I have nothing to say... just laugh...

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原帖由 白貓兒 於 2007-8-18 14:12 發表



Of course I know how you think of loksiu all along.
Many minor offences are already enough to convict an offender.

However, last time when you banned loksiu for the first time, I don't re ...

talked already.
no need to mention again and again for his wrong doings... many already.  by me...
You can see it in his signature... what he want to do:
http://forum.timway.com/f/profile-uid-8419.html

He has made it very clear that he wants our forum to die... that's all.

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原帖由 白貓兒 於 2007-8-18 14:57 發表


No matter how not well-meaning enough loksiu was in the past, I don't think to make the forum die has always been his intention.
Rather, I think this arises from his current grudge against you ...

流料 has grown up.  He has learned the lesson alraedy... though I repeat, he didn't break the law.
Don't specify on any specific person, we judge based on what he did... and not your description... e.g. offensive... that's not a charge... that's a description...

If you find any one not behave properly, let me know and I will do him/her.

Again, don't focus on people, focus on the stuff he did and what he write/wrote.  That's clear evidence.  And concrete evidence... don't just write some short articles and explain your feelings... explain your feelings with concrete evidence...

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原帖由 xocatII 於 2007-8-18 15:02 發表


流料 has grown up.  He has learned the lesson alraedy... though I repeat, he didn't break the law.
Don't specify on any specific person, we judge based on what he did... and not your descripti ...

loksiu didn't grow up, however... all these years, I've given him a chance all these years.

But someone is so ridiculous, if I found a shit on the floor, and don't like it, I will just pass by and neglect that shit... and go on with my life... but he is so loyal and stay on that shit... and then keep stepping on it for so long...  I think his past life was a fly.

Of course, you have the right to tell us how to make this shit better ... or at least cleaner and more tasteful ... but not stepping on it... but they are just like flies and stay together on that shit and actually, no one should really help him stay...  this is just a shit...

Another choice for you is to help us make this shit better.  I repeat... not stepping on it...

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原帖由 白貓兒 於 2007-8-18 15:07 發表


While I may have to name people, I do not focus on them but rather on things said/written. Do you remember I helped you incorporated this into the moderators' rules in March/April?

I see.  And thanks.
Pls write an article with
1. your thinking.
2. your reasons.  
3. your concrete evidence.

If you understand it, you should write such articles and not just describe someone as offensive without proof, I admit that I cannot see ABC's post completely.  You may see it much better than me.  So, if he breaks the law of being offensive, you have to let me know and let me see see what he has written instead of just some short sentences of being offensive...  if I see the evidence, I will ban ABC or someone completely...

Also, I appreciate your help.  Most people are not so rational and thus pls don't disturb the peace here... most people don't dare to read every one of my article and just keep blaming my banning... they don't see my ratioinale... if they see it, they should discuss with me POINT BY POINT.  I have good language ability that I can present things 有條理地.  Not Just Tiu Lei...     But you all have to read it carefully.

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原帖由 白貓兒 於 2007-8-18 15:07 發表


While I may have to name people, I do not focus on them but rather on things said/written. Do you remember I helped you incorporated this into the moderators' rules in March/April?

Then you should focus on things said/written.  Thanks.