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Many thanks for the lively exchange of information about taxes on HK citizens working in China. I hope all parties have been benefitted through this communication.  Cheers to that first...

But from my personal experience when I started registering liaison offices for my ex-employer in Beijing and Shanghai in early 1990s, I highly recommend that all of you have to consider to pay tax on your income properly according to the laws in China.

Due to my parent company's decision to close all offices in Asia, I had to attend to the requirements of closing them in China. The taxation bureau in Shanghai and Beijing will review your status of payment of income taxes of your office as well as your staff in past years. I don't remember for hopw many years. In case, there have been short payment, fines will be calculated from the date of this incident on daily basis up to the present. Until you have obtained a clearance from tax bureau, you will not be able to obtain the approval from the administration of industry and commerce to cancel your registration and to close your office.

Therefore, please pay VERY special attention to all income tax issues in China ...
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Income taxes in China

I fully agree with brother dejavu2003's sincere advice on income tax matters to all brothers from HK working in China.

I would like to tell you another story when I took over the liaison office in Beijing which had been operating since 1970s under the direct control of my the then parent company. I found out that the chief representative, a HK-born Chinese holding a Canadian passport and earning a monthly salary of about US$4,500 , paid only Rmb20 per month as income tax whereas all other office staff paid Rmb 10 per month. That happened in 1993 when all practices and malpractices in China were full of guesses. There was national tax law but practices were different from province to province.

As the employer was obliged by local laws in China to withhold from its employees' salaries and wages their income taxes and paid them to local tax bureau , otherwise he was liable to make good any short falls and it still is.

So, I contracted with a tax consultant firm in Beijing to look after income tax filing of all the staff as well as the office there. The chief representative disagreed with my action and resigned on the following month. But all other staff there had to pay their income taxes according to our consultant's filing which was made in full compliance with local tax laws. It was very rare in China back in 1993. But it proves me right after more than 10 years later when I had to close these offices.

For financial controllers having small offices in China, this practice of subcontracting your tax filing to a local consultant firm is worthy of your consideration. The fees I paid then and until 2003 were about US$2,000 per annum each for income tax filing of an average of 5 employees and the office.  
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Haha, "Quick Reduction" isn't something that we are familiar with anyway and I was first wondering what it was.  Anyway, this is what it meant.  Take the example of someone making RMB ...
Thanks to brother dejavu2003's information.

You're are correct in saying that there is no requirement of an annual reconciliation of personal income tax. The requirement of an annual reconciliation applies to business tax and enterprise income tax which are declared and paid quarterly. At the end of the year, an audit report is required to be issued by approved auditors in China to report on the annual expenditure of the representative office. One of the issues that this report will touch on is the status of payment of taxes. The auditors will compute the amount of taxes based on this report and comment on the difference, if any, between tax liabilities and payment thereof.
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2.1) IIT: Taxable income * applicable rate - quick deduction = (Monthly income - RMB800 or RMB4,000) * applicable rate - quick de ...
Hi Brothers, I'm back after a busy week ... audit field work during office hours, 2 principals having 4 companies from Europe and U.S.A. to attend to.

The amount of RMB800 called standard monthly expenses was applicable to local Chinese, similar to our personal allowance of $100,000 in HK. But it was deducted on monthly basis whereas RMB4,000 applicable to foreigners and HK / Macau citizens working in China.

Since from 1-1-2006 onwards, Chinese local's standard monthly expenses was increased to RMB1,600 by and from RMB800. Accordingly the monthly standard expenses of foreigners and HK / Macau citizens working in China were increased by a similar amount of RMB800 to RMB4,800 from RMB4,000.

The deduction of RMB1,000 represented all local Chinese employee's contributions to 4 types of insurances mentioned in brother dejavu2003's message before. In fact, the actual amount of insurances paid by individual tax payer may be higher or lower than RMB1,000.

Therefore, Mr. Local's taxable income for the month is computed as : RMB (23,000 - 1,000 - 800 ) = RMB 21,200.

According to the table of income tax rates, this amount of taxable income falls within level 5 of amounts ranging from RMB20,000 to RMB40,000 and the tax rate is 25% while the applicable quick deduction ( ³tºâ¦©°£数) is RMB1,375.

The amount of income tax payable for the month is :

RMB21,200 x 25% - RMB1,375 = RMB5,300 - RMB1,375
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The effective income tax rate is RMB3,925 / RMB23,000 = 34.13%. But this demonstration is outdated by the new personal income tax law which increased personal standard monthly expenses from RMB800 to RMB1,600.

I hope the above calculation is clear to you all. Please do not place too much emphasis on such term as quick deduction. Just apply the equation and the applicable amount. Then you will be fine!  
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So... can you see the different?
Brother CHANGMAO, You pick out a very fundamental change in the concept of new personal income tax law of PRC.

Apart from this, the new personal income tax law placed much emphasis on allowances and reimbursement of expenses such as travel. The new law require all reimbursements be supported with invoices and receipts and subject to the approval of the authorities. I shall copy some brief questions and answers obtained from either the China Tax Authorities or Shenzhen Tax Authorities, I don't remember.

The problem with official website concerning PRC taxes is that you don't have lively discussions but only declaration.

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Taxable income over RMB60,000 to RMB80,000 portion, Rate 35%, Quick deduction RMB6,375

vs Monthly salary for Mr. Expatriate is RMB63,000, then his monthly IIT will be (RMB63,000 - RMB4,000)*35% -RMB3,375=RMB17,275

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In your quote, Brother CHANGMAO, as the taxable income of RMB(63,000-4,000) = RMB59,000 falls in Level 6 of the table of tax rates, the applicable tax rate is 30%, not 35%, and quick deduction, RMB3,375.

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