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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-10-24 20:29 發表

AD?

請節制,無證據勿濫說人ad, 何況你更是管理團隊之一.問是否ad亦令人反感, 不見你說為何作此問題.

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原帖由 骨仔 於 2007-10-25 07:16 發表
報告本身就係廣告黎架啦.

留意,在本壇廣告是指商業性廣告,
故請小心用詞.

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-10-25 12:58 發表

Noted but there are so many obvious ADs recenetly.

Bro peninsula:

The thing is how  do you judge a particular report as an ad?
Think about the grievance expressed:
if I am a newbie, is my report bound to be judged as an ad?
Do I have to be an established member in order for my report to be recognised as at least not an ad?

When people on the China forum criticise you and icheng for advertising HL, how do you feel?

Certain board masters in the past misinterpreted the forum rule against advertising, and sadly many people think likewise.The forum rule forbids advertising, but DOES NOT EMPOWER the board master to ban a user just because he suspects the guy of advertising. There must be concrete conclusive evidence that points to its being an ad before the board master/moderator can ban him.
What the board can/should do when he is suspicious, in the absence of concrete evidence, is to query the reporter, put him under pressure to make him reveal more, stimulate discussion to sensitise other members, and let other members make their own judgements individually.

But in this case, I don't see as yet why the report has to be queried. He may be a true reporter, or he may be advertising. But ON THE SURFACE  of the report text, there is nothing worth querying. If it is because the advertiser skilfully makes his 'report' believable, just let it be. If any member follows his 'recommendation' and tries the service provider but finds the reality quite different from the report, then is the time to condemn the 'reporter', especially if the complainant is an established credit-worthy member. If, on the other hand, the reporter is a genuine reporter, and you condemn him , you are disrespectful to that member.

We should not act prematurely, but let justice be donen whenever necessary, in due course.

Did you know about the case of a Massage Place Sauna ('Longho', Mongkok) staff member writing ad-like 'reports' about their bgs some months ago? In the absence of evidence but with common sense suspicion, I subjected that guy to a number of queries, and other members also expressed suspicion of that guy. Finally, that guy admitted to me in private that he was from the sauna!!

[ 本帖最後由 白貓兒 於 2007-10-29 12:12 編輯 ]

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-10-25 12:58 發表

Noted but there are so many obvious ADs recenetly.

Please specify which you think are. If it is inconvenient, pls PM me.

And please note that to say a report is an ad is subtly different to say that report is like an ad. The former amounts to an accusation which the reporter often finds offensive and unacceptable if he is a genuine reporter. But he might tend to laugh away the latter as it is a statement of opinion ('like') and may make the reporter think about adjusting his style so that his reports are not as questionable in the future.

The 'ad' issue/debate has plagued the Hong Kong Sauna forum for years, and as a long-standing member and a second-instance board master here, I have been through many of these arguments and even been involved in some of these personally, as many of you know. I have been able to draw a lesson from history.

[ 本帖最後由 白貓兒 於 2007-10-25 23:50 編輯 ]

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-10-25 18:32 發表

Many of those with a photo etc. are obvious ADs. They are written in same style and format.

Those are obviously predominantly written by me.

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原帖由 土方歲三 於 2007-10-26 09:30 發表


原來你先係呢度最大間�嚗s告公司

You bet.

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-10-26 22:17 發表

Really?

Yes, didn't you see that personally I have added in almost all the photos here?

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原帖由 peninsula 於 2007-10-29 16:47 發表

My most sincere apologies to all, including moderator!

Pen兄不用說這個. 己所不欲勿施於人.
將心比心, 互相支持.

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原帖由 麥迪文 於 2007-10-30 17:08 發表


P.S. 今天魔魔同盟個新簽名變成"紅豆生南國,春來發幾枝,勸君多採擷,此物最相思" HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

救命!