Hi brother wander,

It is good to see that you have got a piece of good advice from brother dejavu2003. Stay in touch !

Just treat your career in audit at the entry level as an apprenticeship and be prepared to accept a low salary.

As the so-called second tier of audit firms ranges from those just next to EY and PWC  to the very bottom, so nothing is impossible.

It may even be better for those brothers who are still working in this profession to give you a hint about the present range of salary as an audit trainee in the first year of employment.

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­ì©«¥Ñ taurus ©ó 2006-8-24 11:11 PM µoªí
Hi brother wander,

It is good to see that you have got a piece of good advice from brother dejavu2003. Stay in touch !

Just treat your career in audit at the entry level as an apprenticeship  ...

Thank you for brother Taurus and brother dejavu2003 's advice.

I'll start my job hunting and I hope to update my latest situation to you soon.

BTW, I joined ACCA in April 2004. I heard that ACCA's exams were equivalent to HKICPA's
exams, so I thought it'd be good to join this globally-renowned organization. The recent
treatment from HKICPA is really depressing, though. I guess all HKICPA wants is to protect
its interest in HK (for people who joined ACCA after August 2004, the mutual recognition
between ACCA and HKICAP has been limited).

Regarding brother dejavu2003's question, Paper 3.5 ~ 3.7 are the core paper of ACCA.
After I pass these papers and gain 3 years practical experience, I may become an ACCA
member.

Thank you again for your help.

Morer advice from others would be appreciated too!

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­ì©«¥Ñ wander ©ó 2006-8-24 11:53 PM µoªí



Thank you for brother Taurus and brother dejavu2003 's advice.

I'll start my job hunting and I hope to update my latest situation to you soon.

BTW, I joined ACCA in April 2004. I heard  ...

You started in April 2004 and now you are on the verge of qualifying.  You must be very smart and/or dedicated.  It might reinforce the view that people with good command of English have a higher chance of breezing through the professional exam.  It took me bloody 6 years.  

Going back to your concern, I can't believe an ACCA can't find a job as an audit trainee despite the age "handicap".  I have yet to find out the firm's position but i will do that promptly.

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­ì©«¥Ñ wander ©ó 2006-8-25 07:53 µoªí



Thank you for brother Taurus and brother dejavu2003 's advice.

I'll start my job hunting and I hope to update my latest situation to you soon.

BTW, I joined ACCA in April 2004. I heard  ...

Hi brother wander,

Pleasant job hunting and let us know your good news soon ...

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I have sent application letters to Grant Thornton and BDO this week.
Maybe I'll sent letters to other 2nd-tiers.

Instead of sending massive amount of letters, I only choose a few
2nd-tiers coz I want to stick to the fews about whom I am more familiar
with (by studying their web sites).

Even if there's no reply for 2 months, i.e. till the end of October, I won't
be too hasty coz I'll spend the whole November preparing the ACCA exams
in December. This sounds adventurous, but I have little financial burden so
I think I can bear the risk.

Thank you again for everybody's support.

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­ì©«¥Ñ wander ©ó 2006-8-24 20:48 µoªí



Hello Mr. Taurus,

I'm new here but I'd be grateful if experts like you can give me advice.

I've been a sales co-ordinator in a Japanese company for 5 years. During
these 5 years I've a ...

Hi Brother Wander, your photo looks great. I hope the same is with your future.

Now that you've made your decision, better late than never. I'm sure you won't regret it afterwards.

On the other hand, have you ever thought of quitting everything but just focus on passing your ACCA professional examination first in coming November ?

If you can afford it, it's not a bad idea ... comparing the significance of a professional degree and the salary you might have lost on quitting your job for less than three months ...

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­ì©«¥Ñ taurus ©ó 2006-9-2 02:59 PM µoªí


Hi Brother Wander, your photo looks great. I hope the same is with your future.

Now that you've made your decision, better late than never. I'm sure you won't regret it afterwards.

On th ...

Hi Brother Taurus,

Initially I had wanted to quit my job after I've found a new one,
but my senior advised me to quit first, coz she could then
have time to recruite someone new and learn how to follow
the task I left behind. She didn't want me to quit all at a sudden
and left her panic. I thought she had a point, so I handed over
my resignation letter at the end of August.

BTW, I think that the labour market is really doing fine (not talking
my job-hunting) because most applicants to my company are asking
for higher salaries than mine, and there is a guy who cancelled the
appointment with us because he is now busying with his freelance
jobs.

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­ì©«¥Ñ wander ©ó 2006-9-3 06:56 µoªí

Hi Brother Taurus,

Initially I had wanted to quit my job after I've found a new one,
but my senior advised me to quit first, coz she could then
have time to recruite someone new and learn  ...

Hi Brother Wander,

It's good to hear from you early in the morning. You've been too kind to your senior and think about her first. I hope this will serve you well with a good reference letter from her.

I wonder if the sale coordinator's job which you've been doing concerns with receipt and execution of customers' orders, placing purchase orders with suppliers, following up shipments and LCs, issuance of invoices and lodgement of shipping documents to banks, etc. ?

We have a Chinese saying that "³½­ø¹L¶í­ø·|¤jûH". Recently, our Financial Secretary emphasised that HK unemployment rate was 4.9% ( I don't remember la ! ). Local economy should be doing quite well.

But to find a job or to recruit an appropriate candidate is a different thing. It really has to depend on a lot of factors, one of which may be luck for the applicant and for the recruiting company as well to result in a successful match !

Brother Wander, it's now the time for you to pull yourself together and move forward ! Do it for yourself and try to think of yourself first from now on ...

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­ì©«¥Ñ taurus ©ó 2006-9-3 01:59 AM µoªí


Hi Brother Wander,

It's good to hear from you early in the morning. You've been too kind to your senior and think about her first. I hope this will serve you well with a good reference lette ...

Hi Brother Taurus,

Basically you have correctly estimated my scope of duty.

But, in addition, I also serve as the interpretor between my Japanese / Korean
colleagues (who speak Japanese) and the Chinese / English-speaking clients.
I also translate contracts, specification and analysis reports from Japanese to
English / Chinese, and vice versa.

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­ì©«¥Ñ wander ©ó 2006-9-3 13:28 µoªí

Hi Brother Taurus,

Basically you have correctly estimated my scope of duty.

But, in addition, I also serve as the interpretor between my Japanese / Korean
colleagues (who speak Japanese) ...

Hi Brother Wander,

I'm afraid that you have to stay long hours in the office and then have many parties afterwards.

It's good for you to make your decision to have a change in your life, your career ...

Work towards having your identity and a professional qualification. It's very important nowaday !

Don't worry, move forward towards your goal, brother ...

it depends whether u have a professional qualification or not

what is the salary for "partner"?

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­ì©«¥Ñ miura ©ó 2006-9-4 22:24 µoªí
what is the salary for "partner"?

I would like to know too !

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Don't study accounting! I fall into this trap for 20years!

So far I find it not bad. Of course, it dues on the opportunities you met all over your working life. And also how much effort you've contributed in this area.

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Of course, did you not read that 80% of HK accountants got pay rise of between 6% to 20% this year.

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­ì©«¥Ñ hjhjhj2004 ©ó 2006-9-6 17:21 µoªí

Don't study accounting! I fall into this trap for 20years!

Don't be so pessimistic, Brother Hjhjhj2004 !  

If you think positively, you have already had 20 years of stable job. Most of us work day in day out for our living. This is the fact of life.  

Since you have been in this profession for 20 years, you know the rules. Either you study for a degree in the profession or you find something interesting in life to enjoy.

Life is not all for making money and hard-work ! There are so many things in life for you to appreciate and enjoy. Spend more time with your loved ones, your family !

Best of luck !  

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­ì©«¥Ñ hjhjhj2004 ©ó 2006-9-6 01:21 AM µoªí


Don't study accounting! I fall into this trap for 20years!

What are yoiu doing now?

Totally agreed. Life is easy when you stay your heart with your lovely family.

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­ì©«¥Ñ miura ©ó 2006-9-4 06:24 AM µoªí
what is the salary for "partner"?

For large firms, junior partners get over $2m. Minimum is @1.2m for smaller firms. Of course, can go up a lot if you are senior partners.

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­ì©«¥Ñ peninsula ©ó 2006-9-8 01:08 AM µoªí

What are yoiu doing now?

Working, working, working... no time for family, no respect, nothing..

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­ì©«¥Ñ taurus ©ó 2006-9-7 02:29 PM µoªí


Don't be so pessimistic, Brother Hjhjhj2004 !  

If you think positively, you have already had 20 years of stable job. Most of us work day in day out for our living. This is the fact of ...

Don't believe the so-called Pesident. Believe me. Find a useful career. There are thousonds of ways to earn your living!