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原帖由 xocatII 於 2007-8-14 15:21 發表
With regard to about 10 users being banned, as they attack xocat in a lot of ways without giving concrete suggestions. And this has been for over 6 months... Robin and I keep our eyes on it for lo ...
To Mr. XocatII,
According to Merriam-Webster Dictionary: A Forum is: a public meeting place for open discussion or a medium (as a newspaper or
online service ) of
open discussion or expression of ideas
If a forum is for open discussion of topics and expression of ideas, then those who joined the forum should have the rights to freely express their ideas or opinion in different ways or by using different methods. There is always more than one way to express an idea or opinion during discussion or in an argument. People with different experience, educational and social background will have different ways of expression. Some may use單打 as an implicit ways to express their opinion or some may do it in an explicit way by speaking out loudly. Whatever they use, it is still one of the ways to voice out their opinions. As long as they are not deliberately attack other members personally due to some personal issues or using Foul Languages to insult peoples, then there is nothing wrong for them if they use 單打 as their ways of expressions.
If according to your point of view, then should RTHK Banned all the "Victoria Park Old man” in the Weekly TV program City Forum, due to their ways of expression (those guys even use much more Fierce ways or even personal attacks)??
Besides, the points you made that support your action is kind of weak and I didn’t see it rationalize for your decision.
First of all, I didn't see those banned members attack Xocat (all of them are super or senior VIPs'). If the word Xocat you wrote refers to our Forum, then I didn't see any evidence showing that they have done this. It is illogical for xocat members to attack their own forum, and it doesn’t make any sense. However, if you refer to the word, Xocat is you then, sorry, I will say they just disagree for what you have done in certain cases but I won't put Disagree equal to Attack.
Secondly, you have try very hard to prove that you got” Many Many “supports from other members but how Many is Many? One, Two, or Hundred? And you also mentioned that your friend Alfred support you, but sorry. I didn’t see that have anything to do with your decision to ban more than 10 Senior Members at once.
In addition, if you are as you said that an Open Minded person, how come you would not take other people's disagreement on what you have done in some incident. Is that as a member of Xocat has to Totally Agree to what you done and cannot discuss openly in the forum? Is that an Obligation of a member in a Forum? I wonder?
Besides, you wrote, “ Even if you shout the right thing, I will shut it down.” If you are really Open Minded, how come you will shut it down if it is right? Because of Politeness? According to your point of view that單打 is not politeness?
Moreover, you said you wait for 6 months to see if they can give you Good Suggestion, even though Many Many members support you to ban them all. Did you talk to them personally or publicly that you are waiting for their Suggestions? Well, from what you wrote, it seems that you don’t like them criticise without any ”Concrete Suggestion”. However, I just wonder if there is any rules for the member of Xocat has to give out Suggestions on what they criticise or disagree with. Did you ever see any Editors from various Newspaper need their readers to post out suggestion along with their letters to the editors for any complaint they made and will those Editors refuse to post out those complaint letters if there is no suggestions that come with it?
A last and most important thing that I totally disagree for what you have done is that, you Banned them all first, then post out the rule that 單打 is Forbidden. Well, to me as an member of xocat, it just like a policeman shot an ordinary citizen and then the police said “Sorry, man your behaviour of picking nose is not acceptable and I have been watching you for half an hour and wait for you to stop but you didn’t, that is why I have to kill you…and from now on, whoever do the same thing, I will kill them.” Taking Action First, then made the rules or legislation later is Totally Unacceptable. It is not the right way that a Moderator does. It just give us an impression that “I am the Law, I can do whatever I like or I FEEL it is right” and you have reminded me what George W. Bush said after 911 attack “ You are either with us or against us”.
As a member of xocat for more than 5 years, I seldom express my opinion in that General Discussion Forum and this time, I am totally Disappointed on what you have done.
If you really want to know my Suggestion, then I will suggest you to made the rules first before you Banned them all and I will Strongly Suggest you to Re-Active their Accounts At Once.
