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At these prices, better to visit Macau!

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but why their wife so beautiful (much better than all BGs I can say in TST), why they need to go

skill not enough? too conservative?

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many stars go to sauna la
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skill not enough? too conservative?

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Sorry la, don't understand the difference between 1) and 2), could you explain a bit?
1. $1578 (part 1 ÂN©h + part 2 ¤j¥ó¨Æ)--> so got part 1 and part 2 but there will be a different bg for part 2???
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Hm, I have a different perspective here. Assuming the price and the quality of BGs in Kobe and Macao are compatible, you can easily save 3 valuable hours of yours from traveling to Macao (2 hrs in the ferry+1 hr stucked in the custom). Therefore, if you have free times to spend, Macao is a good choice; if not, Kobe is a perfect alternative!

My 2 cents.

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Hm, I have a different perspective here. Assuming the price and the quality of BGs in Kobe and Macao are compatible. You can easily save 3 valuable hours of yours from traveling to Macao (2 hrs in  ...

Support support, even I have time, ask me to spend several hours to travel just for an hour fun moment seems too much. I rather sit back and relex a bit in TST for total relaxation.

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Hm, I have a different perspective here. Assuming the price and the quality of BGs in Kobe and Macao are compatible, you can easily save 3 valuable hours of yours from traveling to Macao (2 hrs in  ...

I s it oral with dum?

How abourt "Hoi Tin s/n" at causeway ?

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I have explicitly  stated where and how the line can be drawn: what constitutes privacy, and what not. It is plain that the very act of entering a sauna via public acess is not a private matter (though part of personal life). It is easy to confuse privacy with personal life in public. Personal life in private is privacy.
And I did not name anybody specifically as far as going up to a hotel room without visiting the sauna per se is concerned; hence my caution. My point is to say that certain customers choose to keep secret the fact that they enjoy KS bgs' services privately by doing so (rather than visiting the sauna just like any other customers in public). Given that, if a member here says that he knows a certain guy does so and names him, he violates that guy's privacy.
Having said that, I still have in mind names of celebrities going up to a hotel room to enjoy bgs' services without visiting the sauna, though I would of course not disclose them here. It only shows that once certain sauna personnel leave a sauna and are no longer their staff, they may begin to take people's privacy lightly . They begin to gossip and hence that comes to my (and our) knowledge.

That is why I wonder if you have conceptualise the issues involved (ie what amounts to privacy and what not, the cost of being famous and celebrities' rights vs the rights of the press and the public to know; in what conditions are privacy violated) '·§©À¼Ò½k'
This is not meant as a personal attack, but an honest appraisal of your complaint, which lacks reasoning in itself. Nor have you countered or confronted the substance of  my argument. Rather you strike me as automatically equating 'soap (¶º«á) gossiping about what somebody famous does in public as violating his privacy. You said ¡u§Ú·§©Àµ´¤£Âa½k¡v, but so far have you not delineated your concepts! I have not seen any line of argument on your part, apart from an empty outcry using the mere word 'privacy'. §A»¡§Ú§è»·, ¨ä¹ê¬O§A¥¼Âç²M¤@¨Ç¬ÛÃö¦Ó«Dµ¥¦Pªº·§©À: ¨pÁô¡B¦b¤½²³³õ¦X¤U(in public)¡B¦Û§Ú·NÃѨì(conscious of being seen in the public and choosing to be so seen.)

¡u¦ü¬O¦Ó«D¡v.Have you demonstrated how my reasoning is faulty?

We would all agree that discussion on this sauna in question should not narrowly focus on any celebrities involved. Rather the main concern should be the services of the sauna staff and bgs per se. You may not like fellows' discussion of the involvement of celebrities, which seems a digression or gossiping which is to your distaste. However, to ban their discussion or mere mentioning of the issue in question altogether would be authoritarian and against the freedom of speech. They only need a reminder to guard against committing civil libel (ie for example naming somebody and alluding to his having sex with a bg/ not being faithful to his wife.)

Honestly, if one finds gossiping about somebody's mere entry into a sauna offensive out of protection of that sauna against being 'scandalised', then one thinks that the sauna is too 'small' . But a sauna that admits customers day by day, famous or common people alike, should be 'big enough' for soap gossiping. Soap gossiping does not automatically become defamation or scandalising. If a sauna openly sells their services to customers in the rest room, what is there to be scandalised? But if you think whether a sauna is scandalised or not is never your concern (but rather whether a celebrity is so), dismiss my note here.

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