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³æ¥´, §Yban. Instead: concrete suggestions pls. (updated on Aug 16)

³æ¥´, §Yban. Instead: concrete suggestions pls. (updated on Aug 16)

With regard to about 10 users being banned, as they attack xocat in a lot of ways without giving concrete suggestions.  And this has been for over 6 months... Robin and I keep our eyes on it for long... I've been silent for a long time... many many users support me banning them but I intend to wait to see if they can give us any good suggestions... instead, they just keep ³æ¥´ and ³æ¥´... this is not a healthy atmosphere...

I'm sad about this.  if you have any suggestions, just PM me.  I'm glad to resopnd.  but if any one continue to reply and ³æ¥´... I will ban him at once.  and my dear friend, Alfred, agree with my decision.

I accept suggestions, especially concrete suggestions, but not ³æ¥´.   Crticizing is very easy.  I saw an article complaing superman's clothes... it is easy for you to complain batman's clothes as well.  I can easily write such articles also... wearing red underwear... ugly?!  but what's your point?  What is your suggestion?  My suggestion is: give us concrete suggestions, but not ³æ¥´.

I have already given a very big notice that I hope all of you can discuss stuff peacefully.  Over 1 month.

The reason why I ban loksiu is that he speculate/guess someone doing something without concrete evidence.  And the fact is: loksiu say/speculate something without concrete evidence support.  Guessing (yes really guessing) that someone collects money for illegal behaviours.  He just ¨ú¯º.   Court did need concrete evidence.  I did need concrete evidence.  Until now, I still don't have this evidence.   I did know the law of any big country.  At least I do understand them.  That is ½ÚÁ½.  He is crazy.  If I suddenly laughed at you that I think you have collected money for writing an article in the forum, but without evidence, what do you think. ¤v©Ò¤£±ý¡A¤Å¬I©ó¤H.
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  • golden_baby Åé¤O -3 ¤@¤f¬n²z 2007-8-15 00:59
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  • cdlover Åé¤O -20 For many, this is the beginning of th .. 2007-8-15 00:54
  • cdlover «Â±æ -20 For many, this is the beginning of th .. 2007-8-15 00:54

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I've already mentioned in the topic.  

1.  attack without concrete suggestions.  Ban...

2. negative emotion attack, even with suggestions, I will also ban.

3. My concrete suggestion is: be polite and voice out your opinions.  I'm open minded to listen.  Otherwise, if you shout and shout, even if you shout the right thing, I will shut it down.

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You might not know how sad I'm killing a lot of my friends.  But some clever user has already understood why I did that.     I don't mind to have lower hitrate or what.  But we don't want to have any more troubles and bad atmosphere and war like atsmophere...

The happy side on this mass killing is that I see your responeses become more concrete and someone know how to present their thinking using articles instead of some very short sentences shouting and shouting... I'm now trying to digest your opinions so as to improve our forum.

I can't have perfect information.  So, pls try to make it easy to understand and concrete.  Thanks.

If anyone want to resume your account, PM me to apologize or state your polite ideas.  Though I reserve the final right about it.

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stay calm every body.  Do you know why I ban many of the users involved in "that thread".  If you have involved in "that thread", you should know about it.  I'm not sure who make this thing big, but for sure , crazybb is the one... and others might follow, the things become big... and this wasted a lot of resources and time to deal with that, you also wasted the money of we tax payers... what do you think you're doing?  I know that I might have killed someone who are innocent.  I'm sorry.  But over 80% of those users involved in that thread keep on ³æ¥´ and stay on the side of crazybb.  If you insist that you're not on the side of crazybb or loksiu, you're innocent.

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again, if you want me to take any action, pls PM me.  I will talk about it privately.

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Please please.  Examples please... EXAMPLES.

¦ý«Y¥t¤@¤è­±, §A¹ïpm§AûH¤p¤H´N¨¥Å¥­p±q. §Ú¦a¤@¯Z±q¤£¥´¤p³ø§iûH¤H, °í«ù¨ÆµL¤£¥i¹ï¤H¨¥ûH¤ßºA, Ä~Äò喺ª©­±¥XÁn.
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I'm sorry about this.  This is the bad nature of forum.  There are thousands of articles in the forum.  I can't read one by one.  But again, you didn't give me examples of the ones I neglect.  PM is better for technical/admin reasons because you can digest all of it for me.  So, it doesn't hurt you to use PM and posting forum at the same time.  

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I think you didn't know the ultimate reason why I ban many of them.   Read read the previous posts la.  

¹Dºp­ø«YÃø¨Æ, §Ú²Ä¤@­Ó¦P§AÁ¿Án"sorry"(Ãö©ó§Ú±¹ÃãûH¦y»Ä¨èÁ¡), ¦ý§Ú¨ÌµM»{¬°§A¤@ª½³£«Y°µ¿ù咗, ¦Ó§A¥ç¤í©O¤@¯Z´¿¸g¥Î¤ß¥Î¤OÀ°¹L§AûHºô¤Í¤@­Ó¸ÑÄÀ¦P¹Dºp.

­nµf¥ÍûH´N¥þ³¡¤@»ô, ¤@­Ó³£¤£¯à¤Ö!!

but if you're on the side of loksiu/crazybb, I will surely ban you at once.   Dare to tell me?
this is an example of an article without concrete evidence.  Pls see above.  Though I will try to communicate more.  Thanks.

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I'm sorry, I hate you.  I'm seldom on the emotional side.  But you have made the things big.  So, you're right.  I'm addicted to banning you.   This is a forum.  If you don't like me, just leave.  If I don't like you, I have any reasons to ban you.  

Though I see what you have contributed in the past.  I appreciate that.  

I'm happy to see who are on the side of loksiu/crazybb.  I'm also happy to ban them at once.  Especially those who won't talk to me for concrete suggestions.   

Pls.  Though I said I hate you.  I have very strong reasons behind.  The reason is: you can't maintain a peaceful atsmophere of discussion.  And you broke the peace.

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Please please.  Examples please... EXAMPLES.

wan1¨Æ¥ó, Àݧ媩¥D¨Æ¥ó, ¾\ŪÅv­­255¨Æ¥ó, ¦h¤£³Ó¼Æ....

xocat: Chi seen.  solved already la.  
xocat: Àݧ媩¥D¨Æ¥ó.  Thanks.  I will be more careful about this.

¦ý«Y¥t¤@¤è­±, §A¹ïpm§AûH¤p¤H´N¨¥Å¥­p±q. §Ú¦a¤@¯Z±q¤£¥´¤p³ø§iûH¤H, °í«ù¨ÆµL¤£¥i¹ï¤H¨¥ûH¤ßºA, Ä~Äò喺ª©­±¥XÁn.
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I'm sorry about this.  This is the bad nature of forum.  There are thousands of articles in the forum.  I can't read one by one.  But again, you didn't give me examples of the ones I neglect.  PM is better for technical/admin reasons because you can digest all of it for me.  So, it doesn't hurt you to use PM and posting forum at the same time.  

喺ª©­±Á¿«Y­Ú¤j®a°Ñ»P°Q½×, pm¥u«Y¤p°é¤l·N¨£, ¤£¯à¨ú¤§¥H¥Î.

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I think you didn't know the ultimate reason why I ban many of them.   Read read the previous posts la.  

§ÚçܧA·Q¤H©ú¥Õ§A¤§«e, ³Â·Ð¥ý«ÈÆ[¦aÅ¥¨ú¤Ï¹ïûHÁn­µ.

¹Dºp­ø«YÃø¨Æ, §Ú²Ä¤@­Ó¦P§AÁ¿Án"sorry"(Ãö©ó§Ú±¹ÃãûH¦y»Ä¨èÁ¡), ¦ý§Ú¨ÌµM»{¬°§A¤@ª½³£«Y°µ¿ù咗, ¦Ó§A¥ç¤í©O¤@¯Z´¿¸g¥Î¤ß¥Î¤OÀ°¹L§AûHºô¤Í¤@­Ó¸ÑÄÀ¦P¹Dºp.

­nµf¥ÍûH´N¥þ³¡¤@»ô, ¤@­Ó³£¤£¯à¤Ö!!

but if you're on the side of loksiu/crazybb, I will surely ban you at once.   Dare to tell me?

§Ú«Y¦P·NÊ\¦aûHÚ»ªk!! §A¥i¥H¸Ü嗰±øthreadÉN°ÝÃD??

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anakin is supportive here.  Thanks.
I support his ideas and suggestions.  I'm now talking to him more.

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Hate? You must have too much emotion to release. Being young is good.... I don't even hate my previous boss who still owe me 40k salary.
Hey, life is a game.  I might not hate you tomorrow.  Though I'm not sure.  He he...
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  • ridden Åé¤O +20 life is a game <-------agree 2007-8-16 12:47

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also, no need to be very serious about game.

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©ñÃP D °Õ¡A­»´ä¤H.
As I said, the reason I ban is ¦³¤H take all the stuff too seriously.  Pls just relax here.  This is a place for relax and discuss things.  Not attacking.  If you want to attack, use other place.  

We're a tiny little man/girl in this world.  We only live on earth not over 120 years.  So be friend and shake hand and pass away... don't be enemy to anyone.  Don't make war.  If you initate a war.  I'm sorry, you're out of here.  I will try my best to peacefully make you out of here.  You're not our kind.  I'm a peaceful guy.  This is a place of peace.  

Try to listen to the song of "Imagine".

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PM me pls.

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