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401^# 大中小發表於 2011-1-9 15:40 只看該作者

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原帖由 理魯竇 於 2011-1-6 18:39 發表
筆兄，小弟個老豆都係煙剷，以前朝朝起身咳到地都震，
六十多歲時入過一次醫院，先至識驚，立定決心戒煙，如
今搵聲咳都無，今年九十二。

有時我覺得嫁著個煙剷老公的女人很可憐，咀對咀？點忍呀？

先父都係煙剷，最後死於肺氣腫/哮喘.

但我對吸煙, 沒有惡感. 亞爸勤奮工作, 沒任何嗜好, 食下煙, let go la...

不作無益之事, 可以遣有涯之生 ?

飯票喜歡飲紅酒, 起初唔敢比我知. 點知我鼓勵佢飲少量...

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402^# 大中小發表於 2011-1-12 12:01 只看該作者

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先父都係煙剷，最後死於肺氣腫/哮喘.

但我對吸煙, 沒有惡感. 亞爸勤奮工作, 沒任何嗜好, 食下煙, let go la...

不作無益之事, 可以遣有涯之生 ?

飯票喜歡飲紅酒, 起初唔敢比我知. 點知我鼓勵佢飲少 ...

我對吸煙，如沒有影響他人(幾難)，亦沒有惡感。

Sue 姐應該吸左好多年二手煙，有無去照過肺？

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403^# 大中小發表於 2011-1-12 16:33 只看該作者

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我對吸煙，如沒有影響他人(幾難)，亦沒有惡感。

Sue 姐應該吸左好多年二手煙，有無去照過肺？

so far 冇乜事. 不過遺傳呼吸器官弱. 之前食冬蟲夏草/燕窩, 都唔掂.

最慘仲係教書既, 通常同 e-生講, 唔可以咳到失聲...

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我對吸煙，如沒有影響他人(幾難)，亦沒有惡感。

就算佢真係食得好自律(I doubt very much) 冇影響其它人，但對子女就唔公平矣！

個老豆係個自甘墮落，打跛嚟醫嘅慢性自殺者，第日係個長期病患者，你又有何感想？

你會贊成並鼓勵佢繼續食嗎？

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405^# 大中小發表於 2011-1-13 18:07 只看該作者

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就算佢真係食得好自律(I doubt very much) 冇影響其它人，但對子女就唔公平矣！

個老豆係個自甘墮落，打跛嚟醫嘅慢性自殺者，第日係個長期病患者，你又有何感想？

你會贊成 ...

1 個好深既感受:

10 多年前, 1 個女高層, 好錫我, 所以我常參與她的 family gathering. 她對丈夫的飲食, 控制很嚴格. 經常眼見她丈夫饞嘴的樣子.

最終她的丈夫 50 多歲辭世, 死於 cancer. 女高層對我說: 如果可以再來 1 次, 她會容忍他吃香喝辣.

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406^# 大中小發表於 2011-1-13 20:45 只看該作者

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原帖由 mtpen 於 2011-1-13 08:15 發表

就算佢真係食得好自律(I doubt very much) 冇影響其它人，但對子女就唔公平矣！

個老豆係個自甘墮落，打跛嚟醫嘅慢性自殺者，第日係個長期病患者，你又有何感想？

你會贊成 ...

中國大陸每年直接或間接死於吸煙超過 100 萬人，
係每一年，而且有增無減，如此看來，
什麼汶川大地震，舟曲泥石流.....都係濕濕碎。

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407^# 大中小發表於 2011-1-13 20:51 只看該作者

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最終她的丈夫 50 多歲辭世, 死於 cancer. 女高層對我說: 如果可以再來 1 次, 她會容忍他吃香喝辣. ...

那就變成自我實現預言矣！

好多人會找hundred and one reasons去放縱自己，做一些自知唔啱嘅事，揾藉口話: 「我都一把年紀咯，死又一世，唔死又大半世，你咪由得我囉！」

好不幸，往往就係呢種態度，令佢加速死亡，悲劇！

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408^# 大中小發表於 2011-1-13 21:55 只看該作者

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原帖由 理魯竇 於 2011-1-13 20:45 發表

中國大陸每年直接或間接死於吸煙超過 100 萬人，係每一年，

我有時都覺得自己好多餘，苦口婆心去勸人唔好做蠢事，以免佢被自然淘汰，人家不領情，仲罵你多管閒事。

其實我應該陰陰咀笑都嚟唔切，起碼每年响地球上會少咗成百萬人同我爭奪資源。

但我做唔出咁奸，亦有違我對佛理之認知。乍見孺子將入於井，我定必趕往拖住佢，直至佢老豆媽我多事幹我才放手。我絕不會企埋一邊等睇好戲，跟住仲貓哭老鼠話乜咁慘呀咁！

我有理由相信耶穌係自殺而死，因好心着雷劈，激鬼氣。唔好講到佢係神咁神化，就算係人，以稣哥佢當時咁多fans加埋Peter仔嗰13條𡃁，想走易過借火，係佢特登唔走，由得啲羅馬人釘佢十字架而矣！

釋迦牟尼又係，講極你哋都唔聽，仲話佢多聲氣，嬲呀！邊鬼度係完寂吖，絕食就真！

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409^# 大中小發表於 2011-1-15 09:25 只看該作者

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原帖由 suewong 於 2011-1-12 16:33 發表

so far 冇乜事. 不過遺傳呼吸器官弱. 之前食冬蟲夏草/燕窩, 都唔掂. ...

黃小妹，聽我講喇，咪食啲冬蟲夏草/燕窩呀！

呢亭嘢除咗有心理期望價值之外，营養價值比不上一般新鮮蔬菜生菓。

既不value for money，分分鐘仲會食壞身體添！更有甚者，產品處理手法冇皇管。啱啱呢期壹仔就係講啲奸商用硫磺漂白啲當歸，食咗就大鑊矣！

我死鬼外母平時懶矜貴，鍾意食啲乜鬼嘢雪蛤，卒之食埋食埋，70歲左右就生腎癌窩河。

有個friend，53歲，年多前生腸癌，以為好番，近月復發去到肝，平時咪食埋啲花膠、冬蟲夏草、燕窩呀！

當然，佢哋生癌係咪因食咗呢啲「嘅」嘢有關，乃無從考究，正一事出有因、查無實據！

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410^# 大中小發表於 2011-1-18 18:21 只看該作者

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1964年4月14日, 戴麟趾到港；翌日,小何穿上老西於中環關祖堯律師樓上工, 之前一年,
在 Dragages et Travaux 法國國家工程公司(現今的Bouygues)及Kowloon Wharf各做左半年,
都不用穿老西, 上工前對鏡自照, 倒覺得大個仔了。那時小何想當律師；人事關係, 是華人社會
特色, 至今尤烈, 因國民黨淵源 (關祖堯乃工商日報董事), 進了該律師行。
律師呢,做不成, 從此成了煙民.

上工第一日, 跟住師爺C, 40多歲, 瘦削, 眼神如霧, 時目光一閃, 真人露相；打過招呼, 坐在他對面, 整個早上,
未交談一句, 只拋了一個快撈, 手一指, 示意我看內中文件, 是李長江口中比他還富有的那些人之一,(弟弟後來
受僱於此巨富)只見他煙不離手, 翻閱文件, 烟在唇上時, 手指飛舞地跳動在那Underwood打字機上,
這樣地坐著看著, 真不是味兒, 環看左右, 一半以上是煙民。

午後, C從某大狀房中拿著一信封來, 著我送往巴士度則師行, 小何如獲至寶, 頜首應聲, 鷄咁腳而去。
出門望一望個信封, 冇地址的, 心諗冇咁弱智回頭問的, 下樓時已知如何辦了, 至轉門(關律師樓在
歷山大厦8樓, 當年地下有一轉門)見紅頭呀三, 給信封他看, 呀三說, 巴士度不在這裡, 在對面, 手指對面於仁行,
望見的是培羅蒙。信送畢, 腦中還繞著買烟, 因早上看C抽煙速度, 下午快應抽光, 在煙檔搜尋C所抽牌子,
是了, 便是Chesterfield。與人方便, 自己方便, 媽咪自小教落。

與C共事年多, 得其指點, 人事世事, 認識不小, 當年香江上流社會奇聞逸事, 高層貪腐, 煙酒相攻之下,
真長了見識, C謂小何性急, 凡事作答前先燃煙抽兩口,才作處理 , 不料竟成習慣, 一抽至今。

離港赴美前訪C道別, C說 : 你不宜進法界。
C, 性情中人, DBS畢業, 心思細密, 雞蛋內挑骨頭, 是其長處。
此後那包煙, 便是我小伴, 但總記著C所說, 心有疑團才抽她兩口, 一包可能抽數日, 直至到了南非。

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411^# 大中小發表於 2011-1-18 20:37 只看該作者

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黃小妹，聽我講喇，咪食啲冬蟲夏草/燕窩呀！

呢亭嘢除咗有心理期望價值之外，营養價值比不上一般新鮮蔬菜生菓。

既不value for money，分分鐘仲會食壞身體添 ...

thanks for your valuable advice.

我幾相信中-e, 和中國人既民間智慧 (始終歷史耐), 不過因為中國人教識徒弟...

有舊同事鑽研中-e, 他說燕窩根本不適合我的敏感體質, 食多咳多...

不過就算是西藥, 療效也因人而異.

所以我贊成食保健食品前, 先諮詢中-e.

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說抽煙

1964年4月14日, 戴麟趾到港；翌日,小何穿上老西於中環關祖堯律師樓上工, 之前一年,
在 Dragages et Travaux 法國國家工程公 ...

咁後生就要踏入社會大學...

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中國大陸每年直接或間接死於吸煙超過 100 萬人，
係每一年，而且有增無減，如此看來，
什麼汶川大地震，舟曲泥石流.....都係濕濕碎。

死於吸煙 - 自己的選擇.

汶川大地震，舟曲泥石流 - 天災人禍

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午後, C從某大狀房中拿著一信封來, 著我送往巴士度則師行, 小何如獲至寶, 頜首應聲, 鷄咁腳而去。
出門望一望個信封, 冇地址的, 心諗冇咁弱智回頭問的, 下樓時已知如何辦了, 至轉門(關律師樓在
歷山大厦8樓, 當年地下有一轉門)見紅頭呀三, 給信封他看, 呀三說, 巴士度不在這裡, 在對面, 手指對面於仁行,
望見的是培羅蒙。信送畢, 腦中還繞著買烟, 因早上看C抽煙速度, 下午快應抽光, 在煙檔搜尋C所抽牌子,
是了, 便是Chesterfield。與人方便, 自己方便, 媽咪自小教落。

...

現在年輕人的反應: o下, 得個地址, 點解唔話我知點去.

飯票 1 意孤行要高薪 train 80 後, 而家成為全行的笑柄.

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415^# 大中小發表於 2011-1-18 21:24 只看該作者

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凡事作答前先燃煙抽兩口,才作處理 , 不料竟成習慣, 一抽至今。...

小弟細老何兄數年，當知其時工作生態，尤其是男人，離不開煙仔、麻雀、狗馬、甚至舞廳。

老兄乃高級寫字樓工如是，小弟1968年入電話公司做安裝技工之低下層工作亦然。

某日師父遞煙給我，我曰：「多謝，少食！」。即時被噴：「做乜嘢呀？唔煙唔賭，幫襯棺材舖呀？」。

好慶幸小弟企得穩，否則可能真係早已幫襯棺材舖矣！

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416^# 大中小發表於 2011-1-20 09:58 只看該作者

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原帖由 av8s 於 2011-1-20 09:58 發表
1968 SID

Yeah, brother av8s, how do you know that?

Had you ever worked there? The full name of which was Subscribers Installation Department (SID), nickname大棚.

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418^# 大中小發表於 2011-1-20 17:19 只看該作者

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why 到了南非抽多了 ?

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419^# 大中小發表於 2011-1-20 19:15 只看該作者

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Pen Hing: You have excellent memory. Yes! you are absolutely my big brother. I had been working there in 1974-1977 as a spotter. Job need go everywhere when no land line available for the future subscriber. my function was need to spot the location of the future subscriber and find closest "DP" and propose poles erection to the subscriber. Mostly in remote area like NT or outlying island etc.,, My department named Spotting and Statistics office in 3/F PB Central. You should have attended Telephone School at Kwun Tong for couple of weeks.

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420^# 大中小發表於 2011-1-20 21:52 只看該作者

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Yes! you are absolutely my big brother. I had been working there in 1974-1977 as a spotter....

Wow, I have to say I find it admirable with the chance you’d work at the 3rd Floor of Prince’s Building in Central.

Being the Headquarters of the Telephone Company at that time, all senior staff worked there, and all those gorgeous ladies of the Telephone Service Department (TSD) also worked there as well.

You know, at the later part of my service with the HKTC, I worked as a Works Order Control Clerk of SID at the newly built Lai Chi Kok Exchange Building. As a result, I’d got fairly good chance to chat with those gorgeous birds of TSD over the phone everyday, and of course got some social gatherings with them after the work from time to time.

I do believe that one of your girl friends must be from TSD, isn’t it?

I’d got my training course at the Tsim Sha Tsui Exchange Building.

I needed to do the block wiring job in setting up the Distribution Point (DP), and erecting poles (種楝) in those rural areas as well.

I left the Telephone Company and joined the Hong Kong Government in 1971; otherwise we’d have a very good chance to know each other.

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421^# 大中小發表於 2011-1-20 22:57 只看該作者

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Pen Hing: What a small world! Yes! being a member of Central working class is quite admirable. I almost forgot the TSD, our division was a branch from it. That was one of my golden years in my life. Although not too long, but really happy and excited. We also need to work, meet and talk with the ladies of each unit of exchanges, like MK, YL. TW. I think in the late sixties they use 2 alphabets, later they need to change to 3 alphabets for abbreviation of exchange addressing, MKK, YLG and TWN. Some of my colleagues were married those girls work in Units, unfortunately I had had a girl friend and without too much time to have other affairs. It kept me very busy indeed, I only chat, tea or lunch with them only.
So SID should work closely with EP (external planning) for 種楝. You should be carrying "Crabs" for your installation jobs. Right? 20A was not in late 60's I think those "Crabs" were 9A. After HKTCL my next employer was RHKJC?

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422^# 大中小發表於 2011-1-22 22:30 只看該作者

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You should be carrying "Crabs" for your installation..20A was not in late 60's I think those "Crabs" were 9A

Marvellous, mate! You’ve got an excellent memory!

Yes, we used to call telephone set as crab (蟹). Due to the fact that we were seriously understaffed at that time, many of those newly built large estates, like美孚新村, as well as those public housing estates, like坪石村were pre-wired by contractors from the Distribution Point to the Terminal inside the house by means of contract-out while the buildings were under construction, whereas those telephone set installation could still be carried out by us only. Such a step was called笠蟹, which was quite an easy job, anyway.

You know, to be able to get a telephone installed at home was an exciting thing at that time. As a result, the subscribers were very generous and they used to give us tips ranging from $5 to $20 upon finishing the work. Good, isn’t it?

Yes, you’re right, the model 9A was widely used at the late 60’s but was quickly replaced by 20A at the early 70’s.

I tell you what? I was one of the persons who’d lucky enough to witness the installation of the first electronic telephone set in Hong Kong, i.e. the one with push button type. It was carried out at the SID office of the Lai Chi Kok Exchange Building in 1970 (or probably 1969?). Due to the fact that the first generation of which was not quite suitable for use in the extremely humid weather of Hong Kong, you’d only be able to see them in those offices with air-conditioning at that time.

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423^# 大中小發表於 2011-1-23 00:47 只看該作者

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Pen Hing: Since the 9A and 20A are still in my memory and sometimes when I go to the Cat Street or Apliu Street. Those old telephone sets stimulate my eyes, brain and memory up to now. At that time before 1974 was allowed to accept tips no matter small or large, negotiable no problem. Some senior colleagues told me that they did not use their monthly salary at that time due to tips could cover their daily expenses. BTW I like to ask how could you receive your salary, there was no bank transfer in late 60's early 70's. It should be paid by cash in a packet and dispatched somewhere inside exchange. LCK should be the most advanced exchange in 70's. Was it installed Siemens 10C rather than Strowger. 10C used Reed Relays instead of Mechanical Relays, fast and silence, right?:

You are very luck to see the telecommunications advancement and DTMF tone dialling speed changed the world. The staff club should also located at LCK too? So you could easily joined many activities indoor or outdoor there?

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424^# 大中小發表於 2011-1-23 12:57 只看該作者

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Some senior colleagues told me that they did not use their monthly salary at that time due to tips could cover their daily expenses...

I really couldn’t be able to remember how my salary was paid. You’d probably be right, by means of a packet with cash inside of which could be a norm at that time while electronic banking system was not available.

But I can confirm that what you heard from your colleagues is true, in that we’d keep our salary intact, as the tips could well be able to cover our daily expenses, including breakfast and lunch.

I really don’t know why I was so lucky to be appointed to work in the SID, which was the place where colleagues of other departments could envy us our good luck.

At some stage of my service with HKTC, my drawer at home used to pop out of money due to the fact that it was a bit too small to keep that much.

The most glorious time was when people started moving in 坪石村around 1970-71. All a sudden that there were so many installation orders needed to be carried out, so much so that I even needed to call my younger brother, the one who’s now living in Miami, to give me a hand to carry those telephone sets for me in such a way that I’d concentrate myself in 笠蟹.

You’re damn right, my dear little brother av8s, the Lai Chi Kok Exchange was the most advanced one in Hong Kong in 1970. I don’t have a clue about those sophisticated relays sets in the Exchange, as I was only a very junior technician at that time.

If I’d stay in HKTC a little longer, say couple of years, I’m sure that we’d meet each other at the Staff Club situated at the Lai Chi Kok Exchange. I used to play table tennis from time to time with my colleagues over there next to the Canteen.

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425^# 大中小發表於 2011-1-23 13:49 只看該作者

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Pen Hing: It's no wonder since you didn't need to use the normal pay so that what was the content in the packet matter to much. I think the outdoor jobs were free and flexible time management than those in the offices. Most importantly were tipping. I had attended a EP training at KTG HKTCL school, the lecturer said by statistic clerical office colleagues sick leave percentage was higher than outdoors. We should understand the meaning, we can do private business in the office hours?

The Ping Shek should be a big project at that time big demand and need completed at no time. Did the project brought you a small fortune, Ha Ha

If not the time difference we really could play table tennis or roller skating at LCK amusement park etc., Anyway, what we can be here to chat and would be meeting in the future is a marvellous moment and cheerful expectation.

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