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¥ò¦³, §AªG¥y¡uok, i've ansewered yours, but you still haven't answered my question.
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ÉA¥Í: post159
yours: post 160
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has he said anything against you?  why did you keep trying to ©Ù¶ÂÊ\?
he has been speaking very politely.

how about you?
http://forum.timway.com/f/thread-122598-1-1.html
post 7 & especially #8!!!  those are the evidences that he should not ±o¸o§A!!!

also, i'm a vivid example now, i only tried to make the discussion a peaceful one.. but i'm being personally attacked by you!
please provide concrete evidence to your accusations against me!
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personal attack!  no evidence provided!

i do request a proper apology for allure, cos Orange Fai is suggesting allure is having relationship with others.
that's an extremely serious ©Ù¶Â & Organge Fai obviously hasn't got any evidence to support what he said.
having or making relationships.. is very negative statement... and his saying did make allure feel being insulted & he's not speaking in a polite manner for sure!

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personal attack!  no evidence provided!

i do request a proper apology for allure, cos Orange Fai is suggesting allure is having relationship with others.
that's an extremely serious ©Ù¶Â &a ...
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¦^´_ #62 xocatII ªº©«¤l

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personal attack!  no evidence provided!

i do request a proper apology for allure, cos Orange Fai is suggesting allure is having relationship with others.
that's an extremely serious ©Ù¶Â & Organge Fai obviously hasn't got any evidence to support what he said.
having or making relationships.. is very negative statement... and his saying did make allure feel being insulted & he's not speaking in a polite manner for sure!
I offer my humble opinion.  What I said is considered in the content and context of this thread only.
I do not see any impropriety in Orange+Fai¡¦s remarks of ¡§©ÔÃö«Y¡¨.  It is plainly saying ¡§to foster a (good) relationship (with °ª¼h)¡¨.  Even to stretch my imagination to the extreme, I cannot see anything negative or insulting.  Of course, one would perceive it otherwise if he holds a subjective view.  I therefore do not consider that there is concrete evidence that the remark is a personal attack.  


[ ¥»©«³Ì«á¥Ñ happycamel ©ó 2007-8-18 17:59 ½s¿è ]
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personal attack!  no evidence provided!

i do request a proper apology for allure, cos Orange Fai is suggesting allure is having relationship with others.
that's an extremely serious ©Ù¶Â & Organge Fai obviously hasn't got any evidence to support what he said.
having or making relationships.. is very negative statement... and his saying did make allure feel being insulted & he's not speaking in a polite manner for sure!  
xocatII, I think your statement is personal attack instead of mine.
You charge me with Personal attack because you deduce I suggest allure is having relationship with others from¡u­ø¦n¦¨¤é¥H¬°¾Ø¤°»ò°ª¼h´N¥i¥HÁ¿¨ì¦Û¤v©¥®Í¡vor¡u­ø¦ü±o§AËݤ¤·Nª±ÉA³¥©ÔÃö«Y¡v???
Is it your logic and thinking skill ?
If you find my statement is 'personal attack', then I am also suffering personal attack from allure.
I said ¡u­ø¦n¦¨¤é¥H¬°¾Ø¤°»ò°ª¼h´N¥i¥HÁ¿¨ì¦Û¤v©¥®Í¡v, as allure say¡uÊ\­ø«Y¦n²M·¡­ø¥i¥H±o¸o§A¬[...
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I can tell you it is an extremely serious ©Ù¶Â & allure obviously hasn't got any evidence to support what she said.
having or making relationships.. is very negative statement... and her saying did make me feel absolutely being insulted & she never, never! speaking in a polite manner for sure!!!!

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I offer my humble opinion.  What I said is considered in the content and context of this thread only.
I do not see any impropriety in Orange+Fai¡¦s remarks of ¡§©ÔÃö«Y¡¨.  It is plainly saying ...
Noted.
May I suggest that both orange fai and allure each take back the words of contention and forget about them.

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I offer my humble opinion.  What I said is considered in the content and context of this thread only.
I do not see any impropriety in Orange+Fai¡¦s remarks of ¡§©ÔÃö«Y¡¨.  It is plainly saying ¡§to foster a (good) relationship (with °ª¼h)¡¨.  Even to stretch my imagination to the extreme, I cannot see anything negative or insulting. Of course, one would perceive it otherwise if he holds a subjective view.  I therefore do not consider that there is concrete evidence that the remark is a personal attack.  As such, I do not agree with XOCAT that Orange+Fai shall apologise.
Thanks your support.

I admit that my saying to allure maybe impolite, then say Sorry is OK.
However, if xocatII¤jª©¥D request....no....force me to apologize to allure due to the reason of "personal attack", then I will definitely refuse.

But what I emphasis is, when a female firstly provoke others and then she shirks all her responsibilities on another person just because from a selfish female's point of view

To these kind of unjustifiable women say sorry? Does she really don't know how to write the word "Áà"

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I offer my humble opinion.  What I said is considered in the content and context of this thread only.
I do not see any impropriety in Orange+Fai¡¦s remarks of ¡§©ÔÃö«Y¡¨.  It is plainly saying ...
dear happycamel

from a female's point of view.. i'm sorry.. those statements that OF made are very negative to me.  yet, as i said before, i don't want to carry on this meaningless arguement but only waiting for an apology from OF.

to demonstrate my goodwill, i'd take his below sentence as an intention to apologise.
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I admit that my saying to allure maybe impolite, then say Sorry is OK.
yet i do hope to see his proper apology soonest.

brdgs, allure


[ ¥»©«³Ì«á¥Ñ allure ©ó 2007-8-18 18:31 ½s¿è ]

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to my friends and others

all your supports are wholeheartedly appreciated!

please join me and wait for OF's reply.  thanks a million!

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dear happycamel

from a female's point of view.. i'm sorry.. those statements that OF made are very negative to me.  yet, as i said before, i don't want to carry on this meaningless arguement ...
I regret for my lack of sensitivity and failure to consider the matter from a female's point of view.
I hope we all endeavour to refrain from making insinuating remarks.  ³æ¥´will only result in misunderstanding, intended or not.


[ ¥»©«³Ì«á¥Ñ happycamel ©ó 2007-8-18 19:48 ½s¿è ]
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¦^´_ #72 happycamel ªº©«¤l

In fact, I have a friend who was put in the same predicament.
Luckily the matter was resolved sensibly.
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